Comments about ‘Celebrating 100 years of Scouting in the LDS Church with 2 new exhibits, one featuring Norman Rockwell’

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Published: Friday, July 19 2013 5:00 a.m. MDT

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Filo Doughboy
Bakersfield, CA

Let's see how accurate this legacy will be with the recent modern reinterpretation of moral purity.

Rockwell would likely not recognize our new BSA.

ulvegaard
Medical Lake, Washington

The church will always face challenges. It is always difficult to maintain standards in a world set on self destruction, but we can utilize the church's example in our own lives. We do not cast people aside for being sinners. The Savior never would have done so, but then nor would he embrace the sin and alter his course in order to boost the number of followers.

As I understand it, the policy is - the church troops allow all scouts regardless of their personal lives as long as they are willing to follow the scout law; which includes being morally straight. Even heterosexual scouts who are promiscuous will lose their standing in the scout program. The same rule applies to everyone.

Filo Doughboy
Bakersfield, CA

Christ never blurred lines, acquiesced to authorities on a principle, moved the standard. He never reversed his declarations, sent angels with swords to enforce polygamy, declared that Mohammed rode a stallion to Mecca, or sent Wind Talkers to enchant men.

He thoroughly condemned all sexual impurity, from the heart to the soul. He would not have set foot in a building or organization that compromised His Truth. Not the Christ of history and The Bible.

David
Centerville, UT

I just returned from backpacking with my Varsity Scout Troop. Some of the boys would never get out in the mountains, backpacking and camping, without the BSA. They literally would sit home all day and play electronic games.

I love the Boy Scouts of America and feel it has done, and does so much for young men. I'm grateful for the art that Rockwell did depicting scouts. His work represents the values and traditions that still live on in the lives of millions.

Latuva
Spanish Fork , UT

Please understand, nothing has changed for the Church and its relations to the U.S. Scouting program. Young men grow into manhood always contend with emotions and interests as they mature and as long as they live. The Church and Scouting moral codes haven't changed, both institutions continue to teach how to redirect an uncounted number of traits, habits, perceptions, tendencies, orientations, etc, toward constructive ends, along shared and unchanged values.

GeoMan
SALEM, OR

Filo,
Since I think it is fairly safe for me to assume that you didn't have the privileged of knowing the Savior during His mortal ministry, I think it is also fair to say that you have no more insight into the Savior than millions of other people that are his followers and disciples. I include myself among those millions. Since he did set foot in the homes of sinners (and was criticized for it by those the professed to speak for God) and in the temple run by Herod and the Sanhedrin, it would appear that you need to go back and read the Bible again.
Treating others with love, kindness, and respect does not constitute compromise on moral issues wherein those same people might have failings. I am very disappointed in the technical change of policy made by the BSA. I think that it sends the wrong message, intentionally or not. But I will react to this mistake as I think the Savior would, and would have me do. I will stand for what is right while loving and respecting those that disagree or make mistakes.

spring street
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

@ Filo Doughboy: You must be reading a different Bible than the one I have. The one I have preaches acceptance and love.

Shimlau
SAINT GEORGE, UT

Filo; many times Christ taught in syagouges and also in the temple at Jerusalem, where they not only taught contrary to his will but even attempted and in the end had him put to death. yet still he taught on, in both of those locations and also many others.

Filo Doughboy
Bakersfield, CA

Yes, thank you for pointing out that Jesus loves the sinner but not the sin. We know he was dining with sinners, while not engaged in their sinning. We read of His great love/mercy, tolerance/grace, compassion/forgiveness. We know He spoke in the hills and villages, on the temple steps and from synagogue scrolls.

My euphemistic analogy was that from the history of His purity and directives, He would not have joined an openly immoral organization. I think everyone here got that. (Why no comments on His angels sans swords to enforce polygamy...?)

Of course Boy Scouts is a great organization; that was never a contention. But you don't need a mandated program with patches to teach boys how to be men. Hit the trail, be creative, stop being glued to traditions when they turn offensive. Learn how to be leaders who know when to pull their membership. I understand the logic of remaining in order to be a light. Do you understand the principle of refusing to compromise because you fear reprisal?

No Biblical verses require Eagle Scout badges. And there is only one Bible, regardless the inability to understand it.

David
Centerville, UT

Filo,
Scouting is an inspired program adopted by the church in 1913. It wouldn't be spoken of in the Bible, which was written thousands of years earlier.

There are righteous prophets today who continue to receive revelation for the government & doctrinal teachings of Christ's church today. I trust their judgment in this matter because in my own heart I feel no conflict with policy & administration of the LDS church & scouts.

As I stated earlier, I love scouting & what it does for the young men. I often hear conversation among speculators that one day the church will leave scouting. I never concern myself with such speculation. I just focus on my field of labor, following the prophets, & seeking personal revelation.

BYU Papa
Cedar Hills, ut

I understand the disappointment of many over the changes now taking place in the Scouting program. However I think we should not give in to our disappointment. I will give up on scouting when the living prophets and apostles say that it is no longer worth the trouble.

Satan will do all he can to stop any worthwhile goals in our programs. Follow the Prophet.

Sneaky Jimmy
Bay Area, CA

I am so proud of the scouts for acknowledging that all boys deserve scouting. From the posts here it seems that many have not grasped that. Its funny that you find it so easy to label innocent young men as something less than worthy. I would hope everyone would take pride in the traditions of scouting and rejoice in moving the organization forward.

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