I am so proud of the scouts for acknowledging that all boys deserve scouting.
From the posts here it seems that many have not grasped that. Its funny that you
find it so easy to label innocent young men as something less than worthy. I
would hope everyone would take pride in the traditions of scouting and rejoice
in moving the organization forward.
I understand the disappointment of many over the changes now taking place in the
Scouting program. However I think we should not give in to our disappointment.
I will give up on scouting when the living prophets and apostles say that it is
no longer worth the trouble.Satan will do all he can to stop any
worthwhile goals in our programs. Follow the Prophet.
Filo,Scouting is an inspired program adopted by the church in 1913. It
wouldn't be spoken of in the Bible, which was written thousands of years
earlier. There are righteous prophets today who continue to receive
revelation for the government & doctrinal teachings of Christ's church
today. I trust their judgment in this matter because in my own heart I feel no
conflict with policy & administration of the LDS church & scouts. As I stated earlier, I love scouting & what it does for the young
men. I often hear conversation among speculators that one day the church will
leave scouting. I never concern myself with such speculation. I just focus on
my field of labor, following the prophets, & seeking personal revelation.
Yes, thank you for pointing out that Jesus loves the sinner but not the sin. We
know he was dining with sinners, while not engaged in their sinning. We read of
His great love/mercy, tolerance/grace, compassion/forgiveness. We know He spoke
in the hills and villages, on the temple steps and from synagogue scrolls.My euphemistic analogy was that from the history of His purity and
directives, He would not have joined an openly immoral organization. I think
everyone here got that. (Why no comments on His angels sans swords to enforce
polygamy...?)Of course Boy Scouts is a great organization; that was
never a contention. But you don't need a mandated program with patches to
teach boys how to be men. Hit the trail, be creative, stop being glued to
traditions when they turn offensive. Learn how to be leaders who know when to
pull their membership. I understand the logic of remaining in order to be a
light. Do you understand the principle of refusing to compromise because you
fear reprisal?No Biblical verses require Eagle Scout badges. And
there is only one Bible, regardless the inability to understand it.
Filo; many times Christ taught in syagouges and also in the temple at Jerusalem,
where they not only taught contrary to his will but even attempted and in the
end had him put to death. yet still he taught on, in both of those locations
and also many others.
@ Filo Doughboy: You must be reading a different Bible than the one I have.
The one I have preaches acceptance and love.
Filo,Since I think it is fairly safe for me to assume that you didn't
have the privileged of knowing the Savior during His mortal ministry, I think it
is also fair to say that you have no more insight into the Savior than millions
of other people that are his followers and disciples. I include myself among
those millions. Since he did set foot in the homes of sinners (and was
criticized for it by those the professed to speak for God) and in the temple run
by Herod and the Sanhedrin, it would appear that you need to go back and read
the Bible again. Treating others with love, kindness, and respect does
not constitute compromise on moral issues wherein those same people might have
failings. I am very disappointed in the technical change of policy made by the
BSA. I think that it sends the wrong message, intentionally or not. But I will
react to this mistake as I think the Savior would, and would have me do. I will
stand for what is right while loving and respecting those that disagree or make
Please understand, nothing has changed for the Church and its relations to the
U.S. Scouting program. Young men grow into manhood always contend with emotions
and interests as they mature and as long as they live. The Church and Scouting
moral codes haven't changed, both institutions continue to teach how to
redirect an uncounted number of traits, habits, perceptions, tendencies,
orientations, etc, toward constructive ends, along shared and unchanged values.
I just returned from backpacking with my Varsity Scout Troop. Some of the boys
would never get out in the mountains, backpacking and camping, without the BSA.
They literally would sit home all day and play electronic games.I
love the Boy Scouts of America and feel it has done, and does so much for young
men. I'm grateful for the art that Rockwell did depicting scouts. His
work represents the values and traditions that still live on in the lives of
Christ never blurred lines, acquiesced to authorities on a principle, moved the
standard. He never reversed his declarations, sent angels with swords to
enforce polygamy, declared that Mohammed rode a stallion to Mecca, or sent Wind
Talkers to enchant men.He thoroughly condemned all sexual impurity,
from the heart to the soul. He would not have set foot in a building or
organization that compromised His Truth. Not the Christ of history and The
The church will always face challenges. It is always difficult to maintain
standards in a world set on self destruction, but we can utilize the
church's example in our own lives. We do not cast people aside for being
sinners. The Savior never would have done so, but then nor would he embrace the
sin and alter his course in order to boost the number of followers.As I understand it, the policy is - the church troops allow all scouts
regardless of their personal lives as long as they are willing to follow the
scout law; which includes being morally straight. Even heterosexual scouts who
are promiscuous will lose their standing in the scout program. The same rule
applies to everyone.
Let's see how accurate this legacy will be with the recent modern
reinterpretation of moral purity.Rockwell would likely not recognize
our new BSA.