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Published: Thursday, July 18 2013 2:25 p.m. MDT

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TroyTown
Anaheim, CA

VegasUte

"Go Utes! Onward and Upward!!"

13-0 #2/#4
10-3 #18/#18
10-3 ur/#23
8-5 unranked/#39 in Sagarin
5-7 unranked/#61 in Sagarin, no bowl
3-9???

The Utes have a very strange definition of "onward and upward".

Surf is Up
Miami, FL

@Spokane Ute. I would imagine the premise for BYU fans claiming to have the better team is the fact that, a high percentage of years, in seasons where the utes win "the game", their season immediately goes belly up after that. Whereas BYU usually recovers and completes a more respectable season.

No doubt this is because the U puts everything they have into the contest with BYU because it means just so much more to them; and they have nothing left for the rest of the season. You can point to SOS, but that is not always the case. That loss to Colorado didn't impress me much.

I wish football shedules were like basketball and we get to play the same teams (at least some of them) twice in a season.

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

"PS - We beat Oregon by 30 just a few years ago. How will U do against them this year?"

Congratulations on beating a hapless 7-6 Oregon team in 2006! Las Vegas Bowl victories are so rare for byU! Gary Crowton really had that Oregon offense humming on all four cylinders. Unlike that Chip Kelly, Crowton is an offensive genius!

You byU "fans" sure do get a kick out of bragging about wins over extremely mediocre teams in third tier bowl games!

But since you are going all the way back to 2006 to have bragging rights over something, why don't you scoot ahead two years to 2008. That's the year Utah went 13-0 and beat Alabama in the Sugar Bowl, you know, a meaningful game. Not a hapless Alabama, mind you, a 12-2 Alabama, whose only losses that year were to NC Florida in the SEC championship game, and Utah. Who has Alabama lost to in a bowl game since that date? Hint: nobody!!

You can have the 2006 Las Vegas Bowl, I'll take the 2009 Sugar Bowl.

Thanks, come again!

Go Utes! Onward and Upward!!

Salemite
Salem, Ut

Utah was not the first choice, not even the second choice, but Utah was the "need someone to make 12 - - - choice"

Once again, Utah rises with a little help from their friends in Provo.

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

Surf is Up: "Whereas BYU usually recovers and completes a more respectable season."

Well, I hope so! With games against such power houses as Weber St, Idaho St., Hawaii and New Mexico St., I would hope that you would have a "respectable" season!! It's not going to be the case this year. Although the byU schedule is still much weaker than Utah's, you don't have the lineup of usual patsies (I mean, besides Idaho St and Mid Tn ST). Only time will tell if you can be "respectable" with a somewhat decent schedule.

Go Utes!

Steven S Jarvis
Orem, UT

@Vegas Ute

Do you know of football programs outside of Utah? Boise State happens to be a top flight ranked team every year for the last decade and has had more big time wins in the last ten years than Utah has had in its entire history. The Boise vs BYU game is equally as important as the Texas game for a shot at the playoffs.

Utah State in 2014 will have a stud senior in Chuckie Keaton. Depending on this year, he may be in the running for the Heisman. Its too bad that either USU or Boise will beat the other team. USU might be ranked.

Middle TN ST, UCF and Southern Miss will be bowl eligible teams with 7-9 wins each. Both programs are consistent in their leagues. Nevada should also be bowl bound.

UConn, Houston and Virgina should hover around 6 wins apiece. UNLV is not likely to put up more than 3 or 4 wins.

BYU has one more game to schedule. No matter who they schedule, 2014 is going to be the third or fourth best schedule they have had with only UNLV being a bad program.

TroyTown
Anaheim, CA

VegasUte

"Congratulations on beating a hapless 7-6 Oregon team in 2006!"

LOL at your frantic and emotional spin.

Utah fans have been beating their chests for years about that glorious string of bowl game wins over "hapless".

The ONLY decent team that the Utes beat during their entire 9-game bowl winning streak was an unmotivated Alabama team that was missing its best player.

Even Utah's Fiesta Bowl opponent, Pittsburgh, was worse than the then 16th-ranked Oregon State team that BYU crushed in the Las Vegas Bowl. If BYU hadn't beaten the Beavers so badly, they wouldn't have dropped out of the final polls.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

AggieVoice
Logan, UT

"2014 BYU Schedule:

Home- Virginia, Houston, Utah State, Nevada, Southern Miss, UNLV
Away- UCONN, Texas, UCF, Boise, Middle Tennessee

What games excite you on there besides Texas, Boise, and Utah State (if you even claim that)? I hear so much about how Independence is so great, but that schedule doesn't seem like much of a door buster."

Reasonable question. Texas and Boise are both certain to be good games.

Houston, Utah State, Nevada, Southern Miss may or may not be good games. But then again, their fans could say the same thing abut BYU, although under the Mendenhall tenure, the cougars have been pretty consistent.

Virginia, UCONN, UCF, probably not.

Middle Tennessee, UNLV, umm, yeah.

Point is, Utah State may want to make sure they've come through the recent coaching change before talking too much schedule smack. You may end up being schedule smack. And you're playing in the MWC now. Not only is your own schedule iffy, your games have been vanquished to the outer-darkness of tv universe.

TroyTown
Anaheim, CA

VegasUte

Hopefully you'll recover from your loss to BYU.

Luckily, with Weber State and Colorado on your schedule, you have a decent chance at not finishing winless.

Smart Aleck
Vancouver, WA

Go Utes . . . please . . . .just go . . . .and leave us in peace.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

AggiePride
Logan, UT

"Utah State is the reigning state champ!"

Congratulations on ending the season the highest ranked team in the state!

However, reigning state champ title would belong to the team who beat the other teams in state. That is no more Utah State than it is BYU or even lowly Utah for that matter.

GoRed
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

It's amazing how many BYU fans are interested in our Utah programs to the point where they actually pay homage to us by their very choice of pseudonyms.

These include: MUSSing with U, Uteanymous, backpacn, redfeather, Swoop, etc.

It's flattering to know that we are so important to you that you would choose a name associated with our school as your online aliases.

Razzle2
Bluffdale, UT

JCC75 SEATTLE, WA "At this point, I am fine with not even playing Utah. The hatred between the 2 schools has become ridiculous (glad I don't live in Utah)."

Except on these posts, this is a non-issue in Salt Lake. Most fans can't find the excitement in a non-conference game at the beginning of the year. If we can't play for conference position, than it's just an instate bragging game which is too dumb to take serious.

Barnbug1
SPANISH FORK, UT

This just posted on flipper...BYU basketball has signed a 6 for 3 agreement with the Utah Runnin Utes. A Utah official stated...no way were we going to sign the 6 for 2 deal. He also stated that 2 of the 3 games might be played at Energy Solutions arena saying,nobody shows up here anyway.

Smart Aleck
Vancouver, WA

I don't think any self-respecting BYU fan would adopt an screen name like redfeather or Swoop. I don't know any of them, but if you read the posts under those names, they come across as Utah fans with a more reasoned perspective of Utah football.

Solomon Levi
Alpine, UT

gored

Only in that jolly little world on the hill would mocking be considered flattery.

eastcoastcoug
Danbury, CT

Utah also is .200 against quality competition.

I'm fine with the re-schedule, but no more Sunday games (see photo with article).

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

TroyTown:

byU last 3 bowl wins: UTEP, Tulsa, SDSU
Utah last 3 bowl wins: Alabama, California, Georgia Tech

Nice try.

"Hopefully you'll recover from your loss to BYU."

That's what the byU "fans" say every year. Hasn't worked out too well for you lately, has it? I seem to recall byU "fans" all over Utah stories saying the same thing before Utah stomped Alabama in the Sugar Bowl!

"was an unmotivated Alabama team"

Tell that to Nick Saban - he most definitely does NOT agree with you.

"team that was missing its best player."

You mean kind of like the Utah team in 2012 that went into the Holy War missing it's starting QB, its most prolific running back in history and both starting safeties? And what was the result from that game? Another Utah victory you say? Well, based on your analogy, byU should have won that game handily. Was byU "unmotivated" too?

Thanks for [laying. Come again!

Go Utes!!

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

Steven S Jarvis:

"No matter who they schedule, 2014 is going to be the third or fourth best schedule they have had with only UNLV being a bad program."

Maybe Bronco can put that on a T-shirt next year and byU "fans" can use that as their battle cry. It could even be a selling point for recruiting!!

LOL

Go Utes!!

WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

Salemite
Salem, Ut
Utah was not the first choice, not even the second choice, but Utah was the "need someone to make 12 - - - choice"

Once again, Utah rises with a little help from their friends in Provo.

________

BYU was not the first, second, third, fourth, fifth, six, seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth.....choice. "apparently nobody needs them in any conference."

Once again, BYU is left on the outside, eating scraps under the table thrown by other teams.

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