Comments about ‘Deseret Industries: It's about the people, not the stuff’

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Published: Wednesday, July 17 2013 7:30 p.m. MDT

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Noodlekaboodle
Poplar Grove, UT

I don't understand how some of the "skills" that they teach need to be taught to adults. Showing up to work on time? Showing up for EVERY shift? Working, while your being paid to work? Maybe these people lived charmed lives up until their stint at the DI, but I learned this stuff when I was a kid, how do you make it that far into adulthood and not understand how jobs work?

Burke Olsen, DeseretNews.com
Salt Lake City, UT

Although it is not our practice to correct misinformation published in the comments section of DeseretNews.com, I am going to break with tradition. Some of the comments on this story have not taken into account all the facts about Deseret Industries and its core purpose.

I invite you to read the portion of this Mormon Newsroom report that refers to DI.

http://bit.ly/121noBc

Burke Olsen
Content Director, DeseretNews.com

JWB
Kaysville, UT

Moral and ethical values are a significant part of training at DI. People are looking for ways to improve their value system to what the world needs today for efficiency and productivity in the workplace. Giving people a second-chance as with stuff and goods that DI provides is a value added benefit of all they do for people and families.

The article in May 2013 about Deseret Industries is significant for commenters to read and understand.

aliceb
portland,multnomah, OR

I think those that disparage the program, simply dont know anything about it. How sad. they know so little about it and probably dont help those in need either. Their input shows what is wrong with society today. The DI is a great place and will continue to be that way.Some people dont learn how to work and dont even learn how to live, and sometimes they need to be taught. Others just like to judge and show how selfish they are with their judgements.

Austin Coug
Pflugerville, TX

What a great program to help people gain the skills and experience to be self-sufficient. No comparison to government welfare programs that only give handouts and teach little.

GD
Syracuse, UT

Kolob and Benjamin you are missing the point of the article. The church isn't in it to make money. They are helping people. Welfare isn't the answer. That I know for sure. The blessing of learning how to work and finding a good job that does pay health. Most people who work at DI are gone with 7 to 9 months or earlier. Many are taken off the welfare rolls and other programs that do a service but never get people off the dole.
All programs have their weaknesses but DI is a great program that helps get people off the dole, work, become happy contributing citizens.

Brother Benjamin Franklin
Orem, UT

Upon further reading, I can appreciate the good DI does in people's lives. As stated before, I am happy for that.

I ask that the Deseret News cover other companies, like Savers, doing similar things and not devote such an exclusive focus on the LDS Church. There are many organizations out there like DI that deserve our attention and funds.

As for those, particularly from the LDS faith, who claim to follow our Lord, I find your comments in poor taste. Try to put yourself in my shoes for a change. Not everyone in Utah is a member of your faith and sees these things the way you do. I am saddened that some who profess faith come on here and make comments like that.

I am sorry if my comments came across the wrong way, but I ask for your open minds and willingness to look at these things from different perspectives than yours or the Church. I respect the LDS faith for the good it does, and I appreciate the Deseret News permission to post my thoughts. We are fortunate to live in an inspired land where we can we express our feelings civilly. Thank you.

Travis Fredericks
Ogden, UT

This article hits very close to home for me. Why so close you ask? Because it's about my wife. And I'm the husband who was diagnosed with cancer when everything was starting to look so bright.

A couple of quick thoughts in reading the comments. Firstly, the DI generally loses money as a business. It's a non-profit organization that doesn't bank any of the money that they WOULD make, though that rarely happens anyhow, as their costs exceed their income.

Secondly, the DI is setup as a stepping stone. Here is what the article didn't tell you. My wife worked there a few months as an associate. She was then placed in a job, with the help of the DI, at the Humanitarian Center south of the airport. After a few months there, she returned to the DI as an admin assistant. She now has full benefits, and is on a much more supporting salary.

I am currently in my 2nd fight with cancer. Without those benefits, and her pay, we would not be making it right now. She's in a job she just couldn't have gotten this quickly otherwise.

Travis Fredericks
Ogden, UT

In addition. I wouldn't judge those working at the DI too quickly. I personally knew some of the people who were there for things other than a crisis like my wife. Also, Stacy does in fact have many skills which has allowed her to move a little more quickly through the program than the average associate.

But that being said, some of the people there really do need to learn how the workplace works. It's a more forgiving environment, one where the goal is to teach them how to have a job. Rather than teach them just the job. If they were to get a job at say, a fast food place, they may end up losing their job very quickly. At the DI however, they work with the individual to train them how the real world is.

There could be any number of reasons they don't have those skills, but they are all valid. And each person there couldn't be any more grateful for the job. They made hour cutbacks to allow more people into the program. Had nothing to do with money or healthcare.

Anyway, hope this was informative.

Million
Bluffdale, UT

I am not LDS but I am impressed with Deseret Industries. I have known out of work people and ex-inmates who have been helped to get back on their feet by the DI. There are people who need the jump start to get back into the main stream society and I believe the DI program is an excellent program. It is kind of strange to see the negative comments about the DI on this posting. I was trying to wrap my mind around their point of view but realized it takes all kinds of viewpoints to make up a society.

LoveLife
Riverton, UT

Brother Benjamin Franklin~

I'm a little perplexed that you mentioned some comments in "poor taste". Could you please quote those? You were clearly incorrect in some of your original statements. But, because some people chose to correct you, they were somehow not Christ-like?

I also find it ironic that the company example you used, Savers, is a for-profit company. That seemed to be your original gripe about DI. In fact, reading some employee reviews about Savers gave the same complaints you first stated about DI.

Maybe you should put your feet in other's shoes who have their church/religion faulted for everything they do. You don't have to go to DI, donate to DI, or even read an article about DI. But you do need to be ready for an honest debate about DI if you choose to participate.

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