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Published: Wednesday, July 17 2013 7:30 p.m. MDT

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birder
Salt Lake City, UT

This is just amazing. I wish government entities would get a clue, rather than just handing out EBT cards to people without helping them know what to buy (healthy food) and how to improve.

Owl
Salt Lake City, UT

What a great place to give and watch lives change. Congratulations to DI and all that work there.

Chris from Rose Park
Hartford, CT

I worked a summer at DI between my Junior and Senior year of high school. It was a wonderful summer. I met many wonderful people at DI. It truly is a wonderful place.

nielsen
American Fork, UT

I worked there for about a year and let me say it changed me. I met amazing people they helped me so much. I wanted to do receptionist work so they had me do a business partnership. I also went through the advanced job search and I now have a job that I love doing with coworkers that I am surrounded with that I enjoy. DI was the place that started everything for me. I am so grateful for the opportunity to have been blessed to work there. Best experience of my life.

kolob1
sandy, UT

Deseret Industries doesn't pay a decent wage and they don't provide health care . So much for "caring" about people. All they care about is getting credit for the "caring".

Brother Benjamin Franklin
Orem, UT

I can see how one can interpret this article to mean that good is happening here, but wouldn't these people be better off using LDS Church welfare or some other temporary solution until they can locate employment.

I do not believe it is necessary for a place like DI to exploit cheap labor from the community when there are already more than enough places that one could work to acquire those skills. Going and working at a place like DI just seems like a crutch for someone if anything. Why not put those skills to use in the marketplace where it can benefit everyone in society, not just the purposes of the LDS Church?

I simply am not of the opinion that there is anything that a place like DI can offer that is any better than what is already out there for someone.

I furthermore believe that such mass employment factories can have a negative impact on our economy by slowing the progress of these folks in finding proper employment.

DI may mean well, but I have never thought DI was a community benefit if it is siphoning workers and dollars from our community's economies and taxes.

Bob K
porland, OR

Would it not be better if LDS brides had a skill, and could contribute to the home, even if the husband is able?

wazzup
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@ Brother FRanklin..............if there were jobs out there. It's not simply choosing between two jobs, it's about finding a job and getting job skills.

They can find jobs while working. It's not an either or proposition. It gives a person some self worth while they may be unemployed. Better than doing nothing and hoping for a job.

NedGrimley
Brigham City, UT

Gosh, Bob. It certainly would. I guess some of them never thought of such a novel concept.

dalefarr
South Jordan, Utah

No mention of the fact that DI is managed to earn a profit and not strictly as a charitable undertaking. Also DI standing without federal welfare doesn't work. For example DI made the decision to cut back employee hrs so it wouldn't have to provide health insurance benefit. Medical coverage will have to be provided by medicaid. I don't blame DI for making the decision but to say that the DI or any other LDS church welfare program can take care of the poor among us without governmental welfare is just plain wrong.

MrsH
Altamont, UT

Bro Benjamin...did you even READ the article?

Utes Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

@Brother Benjamin Franklin

"I can see how one can interpret this article to mean that good is happening here, but wouldn't these people be better off using LDS Church welfare or some other temporary solution until they can locate employment."
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I am sure some of the DI workers are indeed being helped by church welfare. Also, it is better to work while looking for better work. Deliberately choosing to not do any work at all can be a turn off to potential employers.

@dalefarr
"For example DI made the decision to cut back employee hrs so it wouldn't have to provide health insurance benefit."
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DI never provided health insurance in the first place.

"I don't blame DI for making the decision but to say that the DI or any other LDS church welfare program can take care of the poor among us without governmental welfare is just plain wrong."
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I am in a bishopric in my ward, and I know numerous people that are being assisted by LDS welfare instead of government welfare.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

We live in a Red State that in some ways wants to have people self-sufficient. That is not always the case and this state has many families that are impacted by politics that not necessarily shows kindness in everything that is done.

DI has a positive influence on people and the Church Welfare program is similar.

What a great opportunity for people to learn skills and feel productive in ways that some would beg to have in other locations even in the United States of America. It is a training ground that produces output for people that are working at all levels. What a blessing the people in DI locations have to put their efforts to good working conditions, even without the benefits that were changed due to the ACA that was passed into law. The effects of that law was to pass it and then read it. There was a significant impact, even on the poor and downtrodden that were supposedly to benefit from that ACA.

We elect people to represent us but unfortunately, politics and lobbying by groups such as AARP and others sway the process for money, dollars, and even tax benefits. All financial gains.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

One thing I believe that is happening with the DI is they are basically able to increase those in training as the numbers that need to be trained has not decreased in the past couple of years.

Thanks for the DI and those that administer those programs for those that have needs in so many areas of their life.

Thanks to the volunteers and employees that give support and care for these people who are wanting to improve their life for themselves and their families.

Bill Tibbitts
Salt Lake City, UT

At a time when some Utah state legislators are trying to say that the LDS church needs to set up a statewide network of charity healthcare clinics, it is good to be reminded of how much good it is already doing here in Utah.

Brother Benjamin Franklin
Orem, UT

Just because DI is in the community does not mean it has all the answers to one's problems. I think DI means well, I simply disagree that it is accomplishing much of anything other than being a place where people can get cheap stuff and the occasional diamond in the rough item.

I am happy that DI helps people. I just think people should be just as willing to consider other alternatives first. I question the motives of a place that enables people to work in an outlet that the church makes money on. It almost seems a form of sneaky exploitation to me.

You are entitled to your opinions, as I am to mine. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.

Nan BW
ELder, CO

DI provides many benefits that go far beyond what is stated in the article, and those who have disparaging views are simply negative. I'm sure not everything that happens at DI is wonderful, but that is because human beings with all our foibles, are in charge. I served a "service mission" in SLC and had the opportunity to work with a sweet non-English speaking woman who worked at DI for an extended time because she didn't have skills for most jobs. The work at DI provided income, and gave her a chance to contribute. I appreciate DI and the overall picture it provides!

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "Brother Benjamin Franklin" you don't quite understand what goes on with the job training.

I know people that are job coaches at the DI, and they tell similar stories about what they do.

For example, quite often they have to teach the DI workers that when you are scheduled to work a shift from 8 to 5, that you actually have to show up for work at 8, not whenever you feel like it. Some have to be taught that you can't just sit around doing nothing and expect to have the job for very long.

They are teaching people how to work. Simply handing them a voucher for food and clothing will never teach them how to work.

Tell us, what other organization is there out there that does what the DI has been doing to teach people how to hold down a job?

Utes Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

4th try! DNews moderators: PLEASE explain what is wrong with the following post?????

@Brother Benjamin Franklin

"I am happy that DI helps people. I just think people should be just as willing to consider other alternatives first."

I am positive that most people working at the DI do just that - consider alternatives first - and take better opportunities when they come along. I just got off the phone with somebody who cannot get work anywhere because of past legal issues. The only place she could get work was the DI. Not everybody that works there is in that situation of course. But thank goodness for the DI in these situations.

"I question the motives of a place that enables people to work in an outlet that the church makes money on."

The DI is a non-profit organization and a division of the welfare services of the LDS Church. It may not be EXACTLY what some people think it should be, but to me its motives are to help the less-fortunate in society and it appears to me that the evidence supports that.

Little Andy
Tremonton, UT

I am a graduate of the DI program. Dave was my boss. I cannot say enough good about the program. Each employee has a ward member to mentor them. Each employee is interviewed by their supervisor once or twice a week to see about there job looking progression. I was only there for three months and took two different training classes. These were taught by experts who had many many years teaching. They paid for me to take a fork lift class online at the Bridgerland school. This would have cost me several hundred dollars. So every donation that results in a sale gets put back into the program to pay the employee so they don't have to take government assistance.Training and schooling are part of the program.
I would say that the time I spent there were the best time of employment. Good hearted people and lasting friends.Made me see that there were a lot of people worse off than I. I am thankful for that great experience. President Heber J. Grant was truley inspired to start the program. Great article Thank You..

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