Hey Guitarboy,(part 2 of 2)One final personal note
though--if we could more accurately describe and testify of truths, then I
believe that we would strengthen our faith. I think this careless practice of
misidentifying our convictions actually weakens our faith.Once
again, you got it right, don't worry about it. You can move forward
building on a foundation of faith that can strengthen because you have the true
understanding of what faith is.Your efforts may lead many to strengthen
Hey Guitarboy,part 1 of 2)Good comments. Rarely do
people recognize and express this tendency in the Mormon culture.If
someone knows something 'for certain' and without any doubt, in other
words, if they have a sure knowledge of its validity--then they cannot exercise
faith in that thing, because they then have a perfect knowledge of the truth of
that thing. As you well know faith is to believe in something that is 'not
known' but is true.Many in the Mormon culture state that they
know something 'for sure' but would then claim to also exercise faith
in that thing--at its worst this practice is just a misunderstanding on their
part; at its best it is an impassioned attempt at being more emphatic and more
persuasive and perhaps more profound in their conviction--of that thing--they
just get nervous once they get behind a microphone, like a deer in the
headlights.Don't let it bug you. Those who set the best
example for all of us in understanding this tendency, both perpetuate the
practice (unfortunately); and, fortunately, many try to clarify and correct it
and use it appropriately.One final personal note though--if
Very nice story. Kudos to DN.Thanks for sharing.
(1 of 2) @ThinksIThinkThere are many possibilities.
For some of us, it is a question of honesty."To become
completely honest, we must look carefully at our lives and have the courage to
face the whole truth. If there are ways in which we are being even the least
bit dishonest, we should begin at once to repent of them....When we are
completely honest...we can face the Lord, ourselves, and others without
shame."–Gospel Principles (Corporation of the President of
the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints)When people say they
"know" without any doubt that Joseph Smith saw God in real life, that
Joseph Smith really received golden plates from an angel, and they KNOW this, so
you think they are telling the truth? Or are they guilty of claiming a false
certainty? I thought this world was a time for faith, not certainty?If the first principle of the gospel is faith (in Jesus, and by extension, in
other tenets of Mormonism), why do so many claim certainty instead of faith?
Why do they claim they know?Is that honest? How can they know? Why
not just claim faith? What about honesty?
Wow. I just don't know why it was so hard. It seems to me that if you
study the doctrine and study the history of the church, it doesn't matter
what and when you feel something - the facts are staring you in the face. I
guess for some its not that easy, but it seems like an easy decision to me.
Great story and great comments by those who are connected to Tom Holmoe and his
conversion story. Best article I've read in some time. Cheers DNews.
I never knew Tom Holmoe, but I was one of Klane Hales’ roommates at BYU in
the Fall of 1977. I arrived at BYU out of sorts, prideful, and stubborn. I
didn’t even attend church very often. I almost left BYU after that first
semester, feeling like a fish out of water. One day, with tear filled eyes,
Klane, just 18 years old, expressed his genuine concern and love for me. I was
sincerely affected. That had never happened to me before. I started to
examine the gospel more closely after that and I began to change my attitudes
and behaviors. Those changes eventually lead to a mission and a temple
marriage. I have a strong testimony of the gospel and am in my 5th year of
service as a Bishop. Is it not amazing how the Lord places His servants right
where they need to be. Thanks Klane.
I was one of the BYU campus missionary that Tom was talking about. I remember
the story exacally as he stated, except for one part. Our mission pres said
that because it had been more than a year since Tom had the discussions, that we
did need to teach them again. We taught (reviewed) all six discussions over a 2
hour appointment right before his baptismal interview. I was a total sports
fanatic so I was well aware of who Tom Holmo was. Although we didn't
really do much, it was one of the highlight of my mission to be able to say that
my comp and I taught Tom Holmo so he could be baptized! Soon after that we also
had the oppertunity to teach and baptize Jeff Chapman, who was one of the top
b-ball players in the nation that year. Good memories!
"Fools mock, but they shall mourn;...." Ether 12:26–-----------------------------I knew Tom in college. We
were in a few labs and study groups together. He always struck me as a very
bright and humble guy, despite the attention he got as a football star. A
6'3, white, cornerback that was good enough to play in the NFL was (is) a
pretty rare thing.I really enjoyed this story. Good job, DN.
What a great story! I love seeing how the Lord works in peoples lives! All of
our lives!Every time I have talked to Tom I have been impressed that
he is genuine.Keep up the good work!
This is a great story. It helped me understand Tom more and appreciate the role
he plays at BYU to help student athletes who are not LDS. Pride is an
interesting aspect of our lives and sometimes keeps us from reaching our full
potential...all of us!Go Cougars!