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  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    July 22, 2013 1:40 p.m.

    @Marked it Down

    You mean the same conferences where BYU won ZERO titles and ZERO bowl games?

    I don't blame BYU fans for claiming their history began in 1974, because before then East High School OWND you.

    We own are history. We were abysmal in 70 and 80s but today we're light years ahead of where we were.

    In the MWC, BYU was the 3rd best team. Are you saying BYU is better today than it was in the WAC or MWC?

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    July 22, 2013 10:53 a.m.

    Uteology

    NOBODY cares about your leather-helmet era wins against East High School and conference championships "won" in weak conferences that died over half a century ago.

    The fact that Utah only won TWO conference championships during 37 years in the WAC says far more about the Utes than the meaningless 17 championships the Utes won before joining the WAC.

    Even more telling, not a single one of those 17 championship teams was ranked and only one of them played in a bowl.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 21, 2013 2:04 p.m.

    Duckhunter, of course you wouldn't acknowledge the irony and hypocrisy in claiming "utah=precareer champs" and criticizing Utah fans for being pleased with a recruit, but being perfectly fine with it when one of your own has the same sentiments. It is your calling, after all, to be the "balance" to the hypocrisy you perceive in others.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    July 21, 2013 11:36 a.m.

    @Y's little

    BYU will reach 400 wins during the last 50 years this year.
    Utah won't reach 400 wins during the last 50 years for at least another decade, if ever.

    ----------

    For ever ever? Nope.

    UTAH:

    All-time record 628–435–31 (.588)
    Postseason bowl record 13–4 (.765)
    Conference titles 24 (2 BCS undefeated teams)
    Consensus All-Americans 14

    BYU:

    All-time record 484–369–26 (.565)
    Postseason bowl record 13–17–1 (.435)
    Conference titles 23 (1 NC)
    Consensus All-Americans 13 (1 Heisman)

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 21, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    @stg

    Uh....show me where I have been hypocritical? You cannot. How "frantic and emotional" of you. Fail.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    July 20, 2013 3:48 p.m.

    Ummm, Y's little bro,

    Utah's win % for the past 50 years isn't 55%... 314 wins against 674 games is actually less than 47%... I also think that it's important to note that in 48 of those 50 seasons BYU and Utah shared the same conference...

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 20, 2013 3:08 p.m.

    Duckhunter, and I like pointing out the hypocrisy of the one who always cries "hypocrisy." It's very easy to do.

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    July 20, 2013 12:59 p.m.

    ekute

    29 of the last 50
    25 of the last 40

    AP Top 25 finishes
    BYU 17 > Utah 5

    National Championships
    BYU 1 > Utah none

    WAC/MWC Championships
    BYU 23 > Utah 6

    Heisman Trophies
    BYU 1 > Utah none

    National College Football Hall of Fame Players
    BYU 6 > Utah none

    Bowl Games
    BYU 31 > Utah 17

    National Individual Award Winners
    BYU 15 > Utah none

    Top 25 Football Dynasties of the AP era (1934 to present)
    BYU 1 > Utah not even mentioned

    10+ Win Seasons
    BYU 16 > Utah 6

    Overall Record During the Last Half Century
    BYU 398-203-4 (66%)
    Utah 314-357-3 (55%)

    BYU will reach 400 wins during the last 50 years this year.
    Utah won't reach 400 wins during the last 50 years for at least another decade, if ever.

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    July 20, 2013 11:39 a.m.

    @ekutie

    We're just being messengers... The most quoted Preseason College Football Expert By the Uties (Phil Steele on Strength of Schedule for 2013) states that he believes BYU is the 34th strongest team in the country, and he then picks Utah as the 60th strongest team in the nation... That's 26 places higher for the Cougs... That's not us trying to create controversy or attacking... that's simply us quoting the same expert that you guys like to quote...

    Then, if we apply logic to examining strength of schedule... One would have to conclude that having Utah on your team's schedule this year actually hurts your SOS rating (unless you are Weber State)... Ouch...

    Maybe , with guys like Donovan, that SOS rating can improve for your opponents in the coming years. As a BYU fan, I certainly hope so...

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    July 20, 2013 11:37 a.m.

    ekute

    So you're claiming UNLV(2-10) and Colorado(3-10) were BETTER than Utah.

    How embarrassing for U that your best team ever was preceded by a team that wasn't even as good as pathetic 10-loss UNLV, a team that only beat one other team in 2007, 10-loss Utah St.

    How embarrassing for U that your inaugural PAC 12 team wasn't even as good as pathetic 10-loss Colorado, a team that hadn't won a road game in 4 years.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    July 20, 2013 10:29 a.m.

    Superiority is proven on the field over the course of yearly head to head match ups.

    3 in row.
    8 of 11.
    13 of 20.
    56 of 98.
    Kyle 4 of 7.

  • LonestarRunner Salt Lake City, UT
    July 20, 2013 10:14 a.m.

    ekute

    Superiority is proven on the field over the course of an ENTIRE SEASON, not in one game.

    Unless Utah fans are willing to admit that UNLV(2-10) was BETTER than Utah(9-4) for the ENTIRE SEASON...

    Unless Utah fans are willing to admit that Colorado(3-10) was BETTER than Utah(8-5) for the ENTIRE SEASON...

    stop your silly claims that

    unranked/#39 Utah(8-5) was BETTER than #25/#26/#34 BYU(10-3) for the ENTIRE SEASON

    or that

    unranked/#61 Utah(5-7) was BETTER than unranked/#26 BYU(8-5) for the ENTIRE SEASON.

    The ENTIRE SEASON's results are the ONLY thing that really matters.

    Winning the head-to-head gives you one-game bragging rights, and NOTHING more.

    Bottom line, BYU has finished ahead of Utah in record and final ranking in 5 of the 8 seasons during the Bronco/Kyle era.

    Kyle's had one great season, and little more.

    Top 25 Finishes
    Bronco 5
    Kyle 3

    AP Top 25 Finishes
    Bronco 4
    Kyle 2

    Top 15 Finishes
    Bronco 3
    Kyle 1

    Conference Championships
    Bronco 2
    Kyle 1

    It's blatantly obvious, that Bronco has been more successful, overall, than Kyle.

  • Jenny83 Logan, UT
    July 20, 2013 10:03 a.m.

    Now how old are we here kids!? Honestly, it is only a game and it's not all that important when it comes right down to it....

  • ekute Layton, UT
    July 20, 2013 9:55 a.m.

    Superiority is proven on the field.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 20, 2013 9:48 a.m.

    @ekute

    Claims of superiority over a team that consistently finishes with better records and higher rankings than you is hypocritical.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    July 20, 2013 9:40 a.m.

    Claims of superiority over a team that's beat you 3 years in a row and 8 out of 11 is hypocritical.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 20, 2013 7:26 a.m.

    @stg

    I have no problem with people believing players will be good either, I just enjoy pointing out utah "fan" hypocrisy, which is a very easy thing to do.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 19, 2013 9:46 p.m.

    Duckhunter: "If BYU = preseason champs then utah = precareer champs."

    3grandslams, June 11: "The only team loaded with recruiting classes that will go deep into the NCAA is BYU."

    Tators, June 12: "Though playing time will be harder to get, a player will be a part of some deep runs into the NCAA playoffs."

    Wiscougarfan, June 12: "BYU hasn't had much success going deep into the tourney in the past. However, there are at least three good reasons to believe that will change in the next few years. They are Emery, Mika, and (T.J.) Haws."

    Frankly, I have no problem with people believing future players will do good things for their team. Believing it to be solely a one-sided affair is just ignorant, however. (Those were all from one article, by the way. The entire offseason and last season was riddled with endless similar intimations.)

  • TanMan_101 West Jordan, UT
    July 19, 2013 9:03 p.m.

    @Duckhunter

    I'm pretty sure you know what I was talking about. And you want to talk about being "frantic and emotional."

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    July 19, 2013 8:35 p.m.

    CO Ute

    "the PAC/Indep 'era' consists of a whopping total of 2 seasons."

    True, yet in that short time period, BYU still managed to finish in the Top 25, for EIGHTEENTH time in the last 36 years, and to win two more bowl games.

    Not surprisingly, the Utes failed to finish in the Top 25, for the 30th time in the last 36 years, and only managed to play in one bowl game.

    As modest as BYU's accomplishments have been, they still far exceed anything the Utes have done in the last two years.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    July 19, 2013 8:20 p.m.

    CO Ute

    Congratulations.

    In 2012, U barely squeaked by ONE D-1A team that won more than 3 games, and that win only because of a fluke, errant snap scoop and score.

    Utah's wins in 2012 consisted of:
    No Colo(5-6)
    BYU(8-5)
    Cal(3-9)
    WSU(3-9)
    Col(1-11)
    Combined record 15-34

    No wins against ranked teams; only one win against a bowl team, no wins against conference foes with winning records, and a 7-point win against pathetic, 11-loss Colorado.

    Minimizing BYU simply minimizes the ONLY decent wins the Utes have since joining the PAC.

    BYU's final Sagarin rankings as an Independent: #34 and #26, average #30.
    Utah's final Sagarin rankings in the PAC 12: #39 and #61, average #50.

    btw, BYU played FIVE Top 25 teams in 2012; Utah only played TWO.

  • CO Ute PARKER, CO
    July 19, 2013 7:43 p.m.

    @snackpack - the PAC/Indep 'era' consists of a whopping total of 2 seasons. Of course during that same 'era' the Y has failed to win a game against Utah and developed their record against the likes of Idaho, Idaho State, New Mexico State, Hawaii, and Weber State. Those 5 teams have accounted for 50% of the Y's regular season wins during the 'era'.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 19, 2013 6:59 p.m.

    @vegas ute

    What's funnier than a BYU fan declaring pre season victories? A utah "fan" declaring pre playing greatness.

    utah "fans" like yourself constantly mock BYU fans saying they are always declaring pre season championships. That is laughably incorrect but you want a little bit of truth? utah "fans" are always declaring the greatness of some kid none of them have the slightest clue about being the greatest thing in the history of football simply because he gave a verbal to utah. That's right, the kid isn't even out of high school, has never done anything of note, and utah "fans" are already making declarations of greatness.

    If BYU = preseason champs then utah = precareer champs.

    LOL!

  • Rockwell Baltimore, MD
    July 19, 2013 6:53 p.m.

    Gotta love the childish lower-case spelling of BYU that some bloggers have resorted to, since their usually weak and irrational arguments aren't up to the task of winning any serious debate.

    When it comes to ranking teams each season, final rankings are the final word. It's doesn't matter if you have one or two good wins along the way, if those wins are cancelled out by your bad losses. Seasons are judged in their entirety, not by closing your eyes and pretending that the rest of the country only notices your highlight(s), but not your warts.

  • TroyTown Anaheim, CA
    July 19, 2013 6:35 p.m.

    VegasUte

    Year/Opponent/Ranking/Result of bowls during the Bronco/Kyle era

    Bronco
    2005 Cal(29) 28-35 lost
    2006 Ore(24) 38-8 won
    2007 UCLA(33) 17-16 won
    2008 Ariz(24) 21-31 lost
    2009 OSU(34) 44-20 won
    2010 UTEP(121) 52-24 won
    2011 Tulsa(34) 24-21 won
    2012 SDSU(66) 23-6 won

    Kyle
    2005 Ga Tech(41) 38-10
    2006 Tulsa(77) 25-13
    2007 Navy(74) 35-32
    2008 Ala(6) 31-17
    2009 Cal(46) 37-27
    2010 BSU(6) 3-26
    2011 Ga Tech(56) 30-27
    2012 no bowl

    Bronco has played SIX bowl opponents with Sagarin rankings higher than 40.
    Kyle has only played TWO.

    Bronco has beaten FOUR bowl opponents with Sagarin rankings higher than 40.
    Kyle has only beaten ONE.

    Thanks for playing!

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    July 19, 2013 4:43 p.m.

    If a SEC University makes an offer to this kid he won't be signing any LOIs with Utah... Take that to the bank... If he does sign, he will play on the "D" side of the ball, count on it...

    I get a chuckle out of some of these posts... azutie is all hung up on stars and that seems like all he can talk about... "we have so many stars more than BYU recruits"... Does it really matter??? What sense does it make to beat your chest over your school having a few more stars for the past 3 years when every PreSeason College Football Magazine out there that lists a "Power Ranking" have BYU anywhere from 25 to 30 rating places higher than the team that you beating your chest about??? It tells me that stars really don't matter to those making preseason assessments of the strength of a given team. In addition, every Preseason Football Magazine that I have seen this year who predict wins and losses on an FBS schedule have BYU over Utah...

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    July 19, 2013 4:32 p.m.

    With his size and speed, he should be a good linebacker or TE at the U. I will all depend on whether he can catch.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    July 19, 2013 3:27 p.m.

    scott:

    "The worm will be turning in a few weeks"

    I agree. But the worm that will be turning is the byU schedule. Although your 2013 schedule is still MUCH easier than Utah's, I guess it can still be considered a big boy schedule. It certainly is the hardest byU has ever played. I don't know how they are going to do without a succession of Idaho, Idaho St, New Mexico, New Mexico St, Hawaii, etc to fill in their November schedule. Take heart, though, you still have Idaho St and Mid TN st.

    Thanks for coming on a Utah story about a Utah recruit to talk about how obsessed Utah is with byU. We thank you for your support and your love for Utah!

    Go Utes!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    July 19, 2013 2:59 p.m.

    Snack WAC:

    Bowl games during the BCS era:

    Utah 11
    byU 11
    USU 2

    Records:

    Utah 10-1
    byU 6-5
    USU 1-1

    BCS Bowl records

    Utah 2-0
    byU 0-0
    USU 0-0

    Bowl losses per conference:

    Utah MWC
    byU Conference USA (2), Mid American, PAC (2)
    USU mid American

    Bowl wins per conference:

    Utah ACC (2), Big East, SEC, PAC (2), WAC, Con USA (2), Ind
    byU PAC (3), Conference USA (2), MWC
    USU mid American

    "That's just the way it is; deal with it."

    Fish in a barrel!

    Hey, but thanks for showing us your love for all stories Ute!

    Go Utes!!

  • scott Alpine, UT
    July 19, 2013 1:21 p.m.

    VegasUte

    It's laughable that Utah fans are still using BYU as their metric of success.

    While BYU measures success in overall records and Top 25 finishes, our little brothers continue to judge their entire by how they did against BYU. Not much has changed for the PAC 12 Utes. In fact, its as if the Utes never left the WAC. Just like the vast majority of Utah's time in the WAC, BYU is once again Utah's bowl game. The worm will be turning in a few weeks, and you won't even have a September bowl game winning feather to put in your cap, or headband.

    The only fish you should be concerned about is that tiny one swimming with the PAC 12 sharks.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    July 19, 2013 12:47 p.m.

    Snack WAC:

    And yet byU is still 0-3 against the "hapless" Utes and you continue to roam and comment on all things Utah. Doesn't sound like you have much confidence in your team!

    You can TRY to prove that byU is better by using all the words and rationalizations that you want, but there are two given facts that shut down all of your theories:

    1- byU is 0-3, 1-5, 3-8
    2- You are desperately spinning your yarn on a Utah story about a Utah recruit

    Too easy, fish in a barrel!

    Go Utes! Go Isom!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    July 19, 2013 10:59 a.m.

    Ducky - look it up. Oh that's right, byU "fans" don't like actual facts!! "LOL"

    Where is Fangupo????

    Go Utes. Onward and Upward!!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 19, 2013 9:29 a.m.

    @vegas ute

    No one calls a bowl game winner a "bcs champion", how laughably "frantic and emotional" of you.

    LOL!

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    July 19, 2013 8:30 a.m.

    VegasUte

    That's the best you can do, some convoluted argument that because the Fiesta and Sugar Bowl call their winners champions and they're both "bcs" bowls, that makes Utah a two-time "bcs" champion?

    LOL!

  • clehman Sandy, UT
    July 18, 2013 11:18 p.m.

    Why should the 'rivalry' end? Exhibit A: This comment thread.

    It's the same stuff over and over again, and it's really getting old.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    July 18, 2013 11:08 p.m.

    The utes couldn't cut it in the WAC.

    In the PAC, they're like goldfish swimming with sharks.

    A three star with no mechanics won't make it.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    July 18, 2013 6:31 p.m.

    VegasUte

    U still finished BEHIND BYU in record and ranking.

    It's gotta be tough watching KVN single-handedly destroy SDSU in a bowl game while the Utes home playing couch potatoes.

    Top 25 Rankings during the Independent/PAC era

    BYU 1
    USU 1
    Utah 0

    Bowls During the Independent/PAC era

    BYU 2
    USU 2
    Utah 1

    That's just the way it is; deal with it.

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    July 18, 2013 6:28 p.m.

    Who knows if this kid will end up playing qb or not, the fact is that he is an athlete. Good pickup Utah. I hope he turns out to be a stud.

    Go Cougars!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    July 18, 2013 6:07 p.m.

    Glad to have you on board Mr. Isom! You'll get your chance to show the byU "fans" what you are made of in 2016! Until then, they will sit back, be jealous and take pot shots at your ability and your character.

    Go Utes!! Go Ute Nation!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    July 18, 2013 6:04 p.m.

    ducky-

    Both the Sugar Bowl and the Fiesta Bowl list the winners of their games as "champions". And. both the Sugar Bowl and the Fiesta Bowl ARE actually BCS bowl games (not that byU "fans" would ever know). AND Utah has won the Fiesta Bowl and the Sugar Bowl, thus "champions" of the Fiesta and Sugar bowls, thus BCS championships, just like every other school that has won a BCS bowl (not that byU does or ever will know what that feels like). Now, if he had said multiple BCS "National" Championships, then you would be correct.

    Come on, ducky, do we have to do ALL the heavy lifting? Then again, what does a byU "fan" actually know about the BCS and how it works anyway? But thanks, once again, for declaring your love for Utah by posting on this story!

    Where is Fangupo?

    Go Utes!!

  • Koke Spanish Fork, UT
    July 18, 2013 5:55 p.m.

    I hate to agree with the naysayers, but his throwing form looks awful. Maybe the coaches think that they can fix him. I wouldn't be surprised if he ended up as a TE.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    July 18, 2013 5:51 p.m.

    @Reno Cougs Fan 68:

    Thanks for showing class!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    July 18, 2013 5:46 p.m.

    SportsFan:

    2011: Utah 54, byU 10
    2012: Utah 24, byU 21

    That's just the way it is; deal with it!

    Thanks for your love of all things Ute, though. Come again!!

    Go Utes!!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 18, 2013 5:45 p.m.

    @tanman

    "utah even though they have multiple bcs championships".

    Really? How come no one else in the entire world has any knowledge of Utah having won even a single "bcs championship" let alone "multiples" of them?

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    July 18, 2013 5:43 p.m.

    canadiancougar624:

    I see you missed the Miami offer too. Typical!

    IRS Agent:

    Glad to see your obsession with all things Ute hasn't diminished! Thanks for your support, we love it!

    FAtboy86:

    You and your Utah "zealots" are STILL trying to diminish the effect of 0-3 against your big brother by pretending byU's three straight losses never happened?

    Sad!

    Go Utes!!

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    July 18, 2013 5:16 p.m.

    AZUTE1

    2011 #25/#26/#34 BYU(10-3) > unranked/#39 Utah(8-5)
    2012 unranked/#26 BYU(8-5) bowl winner > unranked/#61 Utah(5-7) couch potato bowl

    That's just the way it is; deal with it!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    July 18, 2013 4:35 p.m.

    According to snak pac

    "despite the fact that most of Utah's wins came in the pre-color television era, before most those Utah fans were born."
    -----
    Kind of like when BYU won it's NC in football?

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 18, 2013 4:15 p.m.

    TheSportsAuthority--

    "The truth is, the PAC 12 had a down year in 2011 and the Utes were so pathetic that they couldn't beat a 10-loss Colorado team to claim a gift-wrapped PAC south."

    Was this during the same season 2-Star byu got annihilated by this "so pathetic" team on their homefield, 54-10?

    "In 2012, the PAC simply returned to normal and the Utes were exposed as the bottom dwelling, conference punching bag that objective fans expected the Utes to be when they joined that PAC."

    Yet, 2-Star byu has lost both times they played against this "bottom dwelling, conference punching bag", once on their homefield to the tune of 54-10.

    Furthermore, 2-Star byu is 2-3 against PAC-12 teams, beating only 2 teams literally finishing at the bottom of the conference standings and getting absolutely brutally curb-stomped on their homefield by the only 2 which finished the season w/a winning record, to the tune of 96-34.

    The 5th game was yet another loss to The U.

    Next.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    July 18, 2013 3:41 p.m.

    jdub1942

    "Who brought up 1944? I have never seen a Utah fan Brag about 1944..."

    Who are you kidding? Utah fans are constantly bragging about their basketball "national championship" that really wasn't.

    As far as "being there", Utah fans are constantly citing Utah's overall head-to-head advantage over BYU, despite the fact that most of Utah's wins came in the pre-color television era, before most those Utah fans were born.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 18, 2013 3:19 p.m.

    Uteanymous--

    "7 turnovers, most of them leading to easy scores after an extremely close 1st half."

    4 of which were directly caused by The U. Nice try.

    "A bobbled bad snap scoop and score that gave Utah a gift TD after BYU has moved deep into Utah territory and was threatening to take the lead."

    A bad snap directly forced by The U when they lined-up Star directly over C at Noseguard, utterly terrifying 2-Star byu's C. I witnessed this phenomena, via false-starts, etc., all throughout Star's career [i.e., see USC's All-Everything C, before USC coaches wised-up and gave him assistance].

    "What's your excuse for not going to a bowl because you couldn't beat the only WAC team you played?"

    What's your excuse for needing multiple WAC teams, as well as Hawaii/Weber State, in order to qualify for a bowl game [against a significantly weaker SOS]?

    "What's your excuse for being winless against PAC foes with winning records?"

    What's your excuse for being equally winless against "PAC" teams w/winning records [both at home in blowout fashion] , including losing to The U, 54-10?

  • TanMan_101 West Jordan, UT
    July 18, 2013 2:36 p.m.

    BYU logic: He had offers to Tulane and some other small schools, so he's clearly not any good. Let's completely disregard the offer to Miami who has won many national and conference championsips and has many players in the NFL, and we can disregard his offer to Utah even though they have multiple BCS championships and also have many players in the NFL. (Many more than BYU has) Remember he hasn't even played his senior season yet, I guarantee their are more offers to come, will he still be considered a scrub if suddenly BYU offers him? What if LSU, or Alabama, Or USC were to offer him? Would they suddenly be "No name schools" too?

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 18, 2013 2:06 p.m.

    PG #1 FAN, is it worth mentioning that one of the first schools to begin recruiting him was UPenn?

  • SoonerUte Salt Lake City, UT
    July 18, 2013 1:51 p.m.

    PG#1FAN "Good work Utes, he could never qualify academically to go anywhere else, especially BYU."
    Slander.

  • PG #1 FAN Lindon, UT
    July 18, 2013 1:24 p.m.

    Good work Utes, he could never qualify academically to go anywhere else, especially BYU.

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    July 18, 2013 1:08 p.m.

    "What's your excuse for getting utterly destroyed at home, 54-10..."

    7 turnovers, most of them leading to easy scores after an extremely close 1st half.

    "and then losing, yet again, to The U in '12?"

    A bobbled bad snap scoop and score that gave Utah a gift TD after BYU has moved deep into Utah territory and was threatening to take the lead.

    What's your excuse for not going to a bowl because you couldn't beat the only WAC team you played?

    What's your excuse for being winless against PAC foes with winning records?

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    July 18, 2013 12:39 p.m.

    @ Reno Coug

    Nice Comment Guy!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 18, 2013 11:52 a.m.

    Uteanymous--

    "LOL at your completely distorted description of the BYU-OSU game. Utah was just as 'brutally curb-stomped' as OSU."

    LOL at your refusal to acknowledge that 14 pts [on the road, no less] is less than 18 points [at home, no less]. Then look at the respective Box Scores. Then look at how The U gifted OSU 14 of their 21 pts via unforced TOs in front of their own goal-line. Then look at how OSU drove the length of the field precisely once, but not 'til the 2nd Half. I could go on and on about it.

    "What's your excuse for the PACy-WACers losing at home to 10-loss Colorado at home in 2011, and then barely beating 11-loss Colorado on the road in 2012?"

    What's your excuse for getting utterly destroyed at home, 54-10, and then losing, yet again, to The U in '12?

    "The PAC improved a little from 2011 to 2012. It only seemed like significant improve because the Utes were so much worse, as was USC."

    All experts rave about The PAC-12's improvement/USC was only worse after Matt Barkley got injured [he played against The U].

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    July 18, 2013 11:50 a.m.

    Nice get for the Utes!!!

    Go Cougs!!!
    Go Utes!!!

  • Uteanymous Salt Lake City, Utah
    July 18, 2013 11:34 a.m.

    AZUTE1

    "The PAC-12 was significantly improved from '11 to '12, as [BYU] knows first-hand having played against Oregon State both seasons and getting absolutely brutally curb-stomped at home during their 2nd game against them."

    LOL at your completely distorted description of the BYU-OSU game. Utah was just as "brutally curb-stomped" as OSU.

    Go back and review the play-by-play of the BYU game and you'll see that BYU was only down 3 points midway through the 3rd Q and driving to take the lead when a couple of OSU interceptions lead to a couple of easy scores.

    What's your excuse for the PACy-WACers losing at home to 10-loss Colorado at home in 2011, and then barely beating 11-loss Colorado on the road in 2012?

    The PAC improved a little from 2011 to 2012. It only seemed like significant improve because the Utes were so much worse, as was USC.

  • SlopJ30 St Louis, MO
    July 18, 2013 11:23 a.m.

    Chris says "we're continuing to improve in a very tough conference."

    Don't you have to start something before you can continue it?

  • utahcountyute Cedar Hills, UT
    July 18, 2013 11:17 a.m.

    A nice verbal, nothing more. No reason to go jake hypes over him. As duck says, he might just play defense.

    So duck does not comment on recruits or "accomplishments" now? Lol

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 18, 2013 10:32 a.m.

    Christine B. Hedgefog--

    "Only you can describe declining conference wins in multiple consecutive years as continued improvement."

    The PAC-12 was significantly improved from '11 to '12, as 2-Star byu knows first-hand having played against Oregon State both seasons and getting absolutely brutally curb-stomped at home during their 2nd game against them.

    Furthermore, 2-Star byu lost to The U both years. Can't knock a team your team can't ever beat.

  • Christine B. Hedgefog Salt Lake City, UT
    July 18, 2013 10:21 a.m.

    Chris B "we're continuing to improve in a very tough conference."

    That's good for a laugh. Please do let us all know how going 4-5 in your first year and 3-6 in your second year is continuing to improve.

    Then, update us again after this year.

    Only you can describe declining conference wins in multiple consecutive years as continued improvement.

    The Chris B. fantasy lives on!

  • jdub1942 PROVO, UT
    July 18, 2013 9:18 a.m.

    killarney,
    Who brought up 1944? I have never seen a Utah fan Brag about 1944, I have only seen Ute fans knowledge that it happened.
    Also, where you a big basketball fan then? Because you certainly act like you were their. Congrats on being able to use a computer so well.

  • jdub1942 PROVO, UT
    July 18, 2013 9:15 a.m.

    Ed,
    Seriously, do we need to do this again? "Wow! To beat out Tulane and South Alabama for a recruit is impressive indeed!" Its true, that's not very impressive, but to beat out Miami on the other hand...

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 18, 2013 9:14 a.m.

    deepblue--

    "BYU beat Air Force(8-4), which finished #24 in the final 1984 AP poll, technically unranked since the 1984 poll only included the Top 20, but still one place higher than Pittsburgh(8-4), which finished #25 in the final 2004 AP poll."

    Where does unranked '84 AF stack-up against '08 Alabama, '08 TCU and '08 Oregon State?

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    July 18, 2013 8:56 a.m.

    @ Ed Grady

    Nice job of hand picking teams. I noticed you forgot to mention LSU, Cincinnati and Miami. Now that's curious; but very typical.

    @ Ernest

    Who's obsessed with who? Look at the BYU fans pulling out the time capsule arguement. Trolling the Utah articles, taking shots and trying to justify their teams existence. Just because Utah beat's BYU and out recruits them year after year is no reason to get all bent out of shape. Then again, maybe it is.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    July 18, 2013 8:38 a.m.

    I can't believe how obsessed ute "fans" are about utah recruiting.
    LOL

  • Suhyun Ogden, UT
    July 18, 2013 8:34 a.m.

    Congratulations to this young man. While at Utah, maybe he will join the church, decide to serve a mission and really change his life for the good.

  • killarney Lincoln Park, IL
    July 18, 2013 8:30 a.m.

    Howard S.

    If BYU's 1984 CONSENSUS National Championship is... "ancient history... and undeniably the product of 2nd and 3rd tier competition..."

    What do you call Utah's 1944 NCAA championship, won in the 2nd rate tournament of the day and in the most watered-down NCAA tournament in history?

    If 1984 is "ancient history,"

    what does that make 1944???

    If Pittsburgh, Utah, Utah St, Air Force, Tulsa, Hawaii, Colorado State, New Mexico, UTEP, Wyoming, SDSU, and Michigan are 2nd and 3rd tier competition,

    what does that make Kearns, Weber, Dow Chemical, Ecker Studio, and the Wendover Bombers???

    The inconsistency of Utah fans is truly astounding.

    BYU won a CONSENSUS National Championship in 1984.

    NOBODY recognized what Utah did in 1944 as anything more than an NCAA tournament championship, in the least competitive NCAA tournament in history.

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    July 18, 2013 8:15 a.m.

    Wow! To beat out Tulane and South Alabama for a recruit is impressive indeed!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    July 17, 2013 10:52 p.m.

    Chris B - "I care about Ute football today more than I care about 1984. So does the rest of the world."

    That's the easy thing to say when you've never won a National Championship. Go to Texas Memorial Stadium (Longhorns) and U will see the banner still proudly displayed from their 1947 National Championship.

  • Jenny83 Logan, UT
    July 17, 2013 9:42 p.m.

    Now lets play nice lil kids, shall we?

  • Marked it Down Park City, UT
    July 17, 2013 9:32 p.m.

    Sorry to burst your crimson-colored bubble, but BYU's national championship run included FIVE Top 12 finishes from 1979 to 1984 and a 24-game winning streak that including TWO road wins against Top 13 teams in 1983 and a road win versus Air Force(8-4), which finished #24 in the final 1984 AP poll, plus a convincing win over Utah in RES.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 17, 2013 9:20 p.m.

    @howie

    "undeniably the product of 2nd and 3rd tier competition."

    What does that say about utah which couldn't get it done at all against that exact same competition?

    I seldom participate in the "accomplishment" competitions on here but you really are the least logical of all the posters in these contests. utah did absolutely nothing against what you call "2nd and 3rd tier competition", frankly utah was the "2nd and 3rd tier competition" BYU feasted on. In reality utah has done next to nothing of consequence on the national stage, very few conference championships, almost never ranked, no national awards, almost nothing at all to talk about, and nothing anyone outside of this state is even aware of.

    Yes I know that will elicit howls of indignation from a bunch of you utah "fans" but it is 100% true. Congratulations on being invited to a better conference than you were in but that isn't really an accomplishment now is it? Comparing nationally relevant accomplishments between these schools cannot even be done, there is no comparison BYU wins it hands down.

    But all that matters now is what happens from here. My money is on BYU.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 17, 2013 8:43 p.m.

    @DeepBlue

    Indelibly etched in history... ancient history... and undeniably the product of 2nd and 3rd tier competition.

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    July 17, 2013 8:42 p.m.

    Dnquixote

    "If you get beat, you get beat."

    So you're willing to admit that UNLV(2-10) was better than Utah in 2007 and Colorado(3-10) was better than Utah in 2011.

    BYU has beaten Utah 29 of the last 50 games; 58% to 41% for the last half century.

    In U.S presidential election terms, BYU has dominated U by a landslide.

    AP Top 25 rankings confirm BYU's dominance:

    17-5 lifetime
    4-2 during the Bronco/Kyle era

  • DeepBlue Anaheim, CA
    July 17, 2013 8:34 p.m.

    AZUTE1

    "The U's final SOS ranking in '08 was among the nation's absolute toughest, as well!"

    Who says so?

    Sagarin only ranked Utah's 2008 SOS #56 and the Utes only finished #5 in his final rankings.

  • Dnquixote Las Vegas, NV
    July 17, 2013 8:22 p.m.

    The endless dredging up of old stats on these boards. Who cares? How is it relevant today? If you get beat, you get beat. It doesn't matter if you can regurgitate a million facts and figures to show how great your program once was. YOU STILL GOT BEAT!
    So for every dig BYU fans want to take at Utah, it is a dig at yourselves. You are bashing a team that beats you year in and year out. Period.
    Congrats on your past accomplishments and your ancient awards. And Welcome to 2013.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 17, 2013 8:21 p.m.

    Oh, and I love the video... Isom seems smart, composed, accurate, and strong... not to mention big.

    He'll be a great Ute.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 17, 2013 8:17 p.m.

    @redfeather

    Really... No one left from 2008... How many are left from 1990?

    Funny...

    But here is the deal Mr. redfeather...

    I don't have to justify Utah's relevance to point out the fact that the Cougars have very few on-field victories in its history to support the high regard in which they hold themselves.

    Nor do I have to justify Utah's relevance to observe that all of BYU voted glory is the product of success against 2nd and 3rd tier competition.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 17, 2013 8:13 p.m.

    In '08, Alabama sat at #1 in the nation for 1 1/2 months, as well!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 17, 2013 8:01 p.m.

    I forgot to ask, what was '90 2-Star byu's final SOS ranking, just so we can make absolutely certain we have all relevant factors on the table in comparing '08 U/'90 2-Star byu. If I remember correctly, The U's final SOS ranking in '08 was at #31, 1 spot ahead of Alabama's!

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    July 17, 2013 8:01 p.m.

    Great, Great get for the Utes. Especially when you see who they beat out. I love all the jealous BYU fans. I love how they jump in their time machine and try to compare them selfs to Utah. Envy and jealousy is a horrible thing.

    GO UTES!

  • redfeather Palo Alto, CA
    July 17, 2013 7:54 p.m.

    howard s

    "Utah's victory was 5 years ago not 23 years ago..."

    The line of demarcation in Utah sports is truly... amazing.

    NOTHING before 2004 counts in football; NOTHING since 2005 counts in basketball.

    1944 and 1998 are like yesterday in basketball; 1984, 1990, and 1996 are like ancient history in football.

    Who cares whether Utah's victory was 5 years or 25 years ago? NONE of the key players on Utah's 2008 team are still playing for the U.

    If you're looking for relevancy, BYU has beaten #18/#18 Utah and #16/#17 Utah State since 2008.

    Who have U beaten, unranked/#25 BYU?

    Ironically, in trying to prove Utah's current relevancy, you're forced to either accept BYU's greater relevancy, or accept that Utah's only legitimate win, since joining the PAC, was irrelevant.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 17, 2013 7:53 p.m.

    BTW, The U's final SOS ranking in '08 was among the nation's absolute toughest, as well!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 17, 2013 7:51 p.m.

    "In 1990, BYU beat #1-ranked, defending national champion Miami; finished #3.
    In 2008, Utah beat #3-ranked, conference runner-up Alabama; finished #6."

    The U beat 4 teams finishing ranked in '08, 2 in the Top-10. How about '90 2-Star byu? Furthermore, The U finished '08 ranked #2 in the nation and undefeated. Where did '90 2-Star byu finish ranked and what was their final record?

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 17, 2013 7:46 p.m.

    @backpacn

    Miami was 23 years ago for BYU... If Utah's biggest win was 23 years ago I'd be embarrassed to bring it up...

    But I suppose if it's all you've got... you go with it...

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 17, 2013 7:44 p.m.

    For the record, I sincerely hope Donovan, who's an outstanding young man/athlete/QB, is carefully reading these threads, in order to see first-hand what 2-Star byu's fanbase is all about!

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 17, 2013 7:43 p.m.

    @PAC man

    Utes are in... BYU is not... and has little prospects of getting in.

    It doesn't have to be justified... It's the fact.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 17, 2013 7:42 p.m.

    SportsFan

    "Howard S.

    It's strange how Utah fans use wins against 'ranked' teams to legitimize their 2008 season, yet those same Utah fans claim that BYU's #1 ranking in 1984 isn't legitimate.

    Even stranger when you consider that one of Utah's 2008 wins against a 'ranked' team was versus #25 BYU.

    What rationale do you use for deciding which rankings are legitimate, and which aren't?"

    Which teams did 2-Star byu play against in '84, which finished the season ranked? We know how utterly overrated PITT was, as they finished the season 3-7-1, bowl-less and unranked. We also know 2-Star byu's SOS ranked #96 out of 98 total teams ranked. Please enlighten us?

    Thanks in advance!

  • backpacn Sandy, UT
    July 17, 2013 7:40 p.m.

    Howard S.

    Utah's victory was against an unmotivated Alabama team that was missing one of its best players and had nothing to play for after being eliminated from the national championship picture.

    BYU's victory was against a highly motivated Miami team that was trying to win back-to-back national championships.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 17, 2013 7:40 p.m.

    @SportsFan

    BYU beat no team that was ranked by any poll at the end of the 1984 season... that fact kind of speaks for itself on the weak schedule BYU played that year.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    July 17, 2013 7:35 p.m.

    Howard S.

    PROVE that Utah's "success" wasn't "the product of success against 2nd and 3rd tier competition."

    Using a conference invitation to "prove" Utah's "legitimacy" is laughable.

    Colorado, 21-40, the previous five seasons, was invited to the PAC before U, and Maryland, 25-37, and Rutgers, 39-25, the previous five seasons, were both invited to the B1G since then, proving that television markets, not accomplishments on the grid iron, are the overwhelming driving force in conference expansion.

    It's time for Utah fans to stop pretending that Utah's football "accomplishments" were even a factor, let alone, the reason, for Utah's invitation to the PAC 12.

  • SportsFan Orem, UT
    July 17, 2013 7:16 p.m.

    Howard S.

    It's strange how Utah fans use wins against "ranked" teams to legitimize their 2008 season, yet those same Utah fans claim that BYU's #1 ranking in 1984 isn't legitimate.

    Even stranger when you consider that one of Utah's 2008 wins against a "ranked" team was versus #25 BYU.

    What rationale do you use for deciding which rankings are legitimate, and which aren't?

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 17, 2013 7:13 p.m.

    @Just the FAX

    Like I said... VOTED by Athlon... and the product of success against 2nd and 3rd tier competition.

    The proof is in the pudding... as a mid-major indy, BYU remains excluded from big boy football.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 17, 2013 7:05 p.m.

    @talkinsports

    Utah's victory was 5 years ago not 23 years ago... and it was on a far bigger stage.

    That's why BYU is on the outside looking in on the modern era of big boy football.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    July 17, 2013 6:44 p.m.

    Howie

    "In it's history BYU maybe has 2 or 3 actual on-field victories against legitimate big time competition..."

    Utah has only ONE legitimate victory against big time competition, and that victory pales in comparison to BYU's biggest victory against big time competition.

    In 1990, BYU beat #1-ranked, defending national champion Miami; finished #3.
    In 2008, Utah beat #3-ranked, conference runner-up Alabama; finished #6.

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    July 17, 2013 6:34 p.m.

    howie

    Absent big time victories, Ute Nation can't even boast about awards that were conferred by virtue of votes.

    Don't kid yourself. EVERY award, even playing in a bcs bowl or championship game, is conferred by virtue of votes. Even Utah fans rely on poll voters to validate their meager list of national accomplishments.

    Absent a legitimate playoff, EVERY accomplishment in major college football is conferred by virtue of votes, including

    Athlon Magazine, an unbiased AND credible source, ranking BYU as one of the

    Top 25 GREATEST COLLEGE FOOTBALL DYNASTIES

    since the AP Poll debuted in 1934.

    -------------

    Boise State and TCU were included in the Best of the Rest.

    Utah wasn't even mentioned.

    -------------

    Of the 1,053 AP polls

    BYU has been ranked in 236 polls (22%)
    Utah has been ranked in 77 polls (7%)

    It's laughable that Utah fans will point to the Top 25 teams that Utah beat in 2008, as validation of Utah's legitimacy, yet claim that BYU's #1 ranking in the 1984 final AP poll is somehow illegitimate.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    July 17, 2013 6:21 p.m.

    2020

    "Don't forget BYU's national championship team did not win the national championship, they were awarded it."

    Don't forget that BYU WON their 1984 AP National Championship in EXACTLY the same way EVERY other AP National Champion since 1936 has won their national championship, by finishing #1 in the final AP poll.

    In fact, a consensus of all FIVE major national selecting organizations of the day selected BYU as THE MOST DESERVING team of 1984 to win the National Championship.

    Unlike the Utes, who only managed to finish #4 in 2004 and a distant #2 in 2008.

    First Place Votes
    1984 - BYU(38), Washington(16), Florida(6)
    2004 - USC(62), Auburn(3), Utah(0)
    2008 - Florida(48), Utah(16), USC(1)

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 17, 2013 6:14 p.m.

    @Y's little brother

    In it's history BYU maybe has 2 or 3 actual on-field victories against legitimate big time competition...

    Absent big time victories the Cougar Nation is left to boast about awards that were conferred by virtue of votes.

    You know... VOTES.... kind of like the way figure skating winners are determined...

    And those votes are the product of BYU's performances against 2nd and 3rd tier competition.

    Cougar Nation may boast all they want about their voted glory.... It's what they do because they've got no real on-field glory to talk about.

  • CO Ute PARKER, CO
    July 17, 2013 5:55 p.m.

    Since this is an article about U recruiting, maybe some posts relating to the article would be interesting.

    I am just giving my opinion so hopefully the DN moderator will approve and not making a personal attack on anyone, again just my opinion.

    Chris B. doesn't speak for U fans and while some of those posts make me laugh, I dislike most of them. Unfortunately several Y fans take the bait every time and feel a need to reply.

    Y's little brother makes the same post over and over again comparing the Y to the U (an conveniently forgets to make any comment about BCS bowls or players in the NFL for each school). For me, these are posts are on par with those from Chris B - redundant and designed to annoy people.

    For once, I agree with Duckhunter. This kid looks like he might end up playing defense for the U. Nice to see him make an unbiased post that doesn't compare the two schools. I hope Utah can keep this young man committed and he turns into a future starter regardless of position.

  • 2020 Herriman, UT
    July 17, 2013 5:35 p.m.

    @ Ys Little Brother
    You really going to go there with one of Utahs BCS season only having three teams with winning records on the schedule? Don't forget BYUs national championship team did not win the national championship, they were awarded it. The best thing to come from that, was that college football has made sure that a team that was clearly not the best team in the country will never be awarded another national championship. That team wasn't even the best team that BYU ever had, and none of those teams were ever the best team in the country.

    Lastly, if BYU is better than Utah, how come you can't beat us anymore? I'll give it up, through the late 70s and certainly through the 80s, BYU owned Utah. However, Utah is clearly a better football program today.

  • StGtoSLC SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 17, 2013 5:00 p.m.

    cougarcanuck, the same Miami that's signed a top 20 national recruiting class in all but one of the last 15+ classes despite the sanctions, with over 50 players in the NFL now.

    "That hasn't been relevant for years?"

    What does that make your school?

  • MUSSing with U Baltimore, MD
    July 17, 2013 4:57 p.m.

    Sunny Farms

    BYU has owned U FOREVER where in really counts, in the National Polls.

    AP/Coaches

    1964 Utah UR/14
    1977 BYU 20/16
    1979 BYU 13/12
    1980 BYU 12/12
    1981 BYU 13/11
    1983 BYU 7/7
    1984 BYU 1/1 National Champions
    1985 BYU 16/17
    1989 BYU 22/18
    1990 BYU 22/17
    1991 BYU 23/23
    1994 BYU 18/10, Utah 10/8
    1996 BYU 5/5
    2001 BYU 25/24
    2003 Utah 21/21
    2004 Utah 4/5
    2006 BYU 16/15
    2007 BYU 14/15
    2008 BYU 25/21, Utah 2/4
    2009 BYU 12/12, Utah 18/18
    2010 Utah UR/23
    2011 BYU UR/25

    BYU already had TEN AP Top 25 finishes, before the Utes cracked the AP poll for the very first time.

    Ranked in AP Poll

    BYU: 11 Times (Preseason), 17 Times (Final), 236 Weeks (Total)
    Utah: 2 Times (Preseason), 5 Times (Final), 77 Weeks (Total)

    At Utah's current rate of ONE AP Top finish every FIFTEEN years, it'll take the Utes

    ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY-FIVE years

    just to match the 17 AP Top finishes BYU has already achieved!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 17, 2013 4:37 p.m.

    @magna ute

    I'm not knocking him, I know nothing about him other than that highlight film. But he looks huge and if I had to guess he'll get bigger. I wouldn't be surprised if he winds up playing defense based on that and the fact utah moves a lot of "qb" recruits to defense. I expect to see Chase Hansen playing defense as well.

  • canadiancougar624 Provo, UT
    July 17, 2013 4:22 p.m.

    @Chris B:

    Miami? You mean the team that is on probation? That has too many off the field issues to count? That hasn't been relevant for years? Yeah, I have, but it's not much to compete against. U still have a chance of going to a bowl game, slim as it may be but Miami does not!

    LOL!

  • raisedaute Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 17, 2013 3:50 p.m.

    Well if he does switch to defense he would be in great company... Paul Kruger was recruited as a QB and became.... An awesome NFL Defensive player

  • Magna Ute Fan Magna, UT
    July 17, 2013 3:48 p.m.

    "He's big. Anyone wanna bet he winds up playing defense?" Ala Paul Kruger? That would be rough!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    July 17, 2013 3:39 p.m.

    He's big. Anyone wanna bet he winds up playing defense?

  • SUNNY ALL DAY Saint George, UT
    July 17, 2013 3:30 p.m.

    @obsessed with y's big brother.

    Those awards were difference makers, for the why?, during last three years.

    Past worth remembering?

    2012 UTAH 24 why? 21
    2011 UTAH 54 why? 10
    2010 UTAH 17 why? 16

    Not enough?

    No problem.

    2008 UTAH 48 why? 24
    2005 UTAH 41 why? 34
    2004 UTAH 52 why? 21
    2003 UTAH 3 why? 0

    Get back to us when, going forward, the independent 1.5 why?, can put up, at least 3, 24 to 44 point or better whippings on UTAH.

    Waiting.

  • raisedaute Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 17, 2013 3:27 p.m.

    Hate to tell you Canadian but he had an offer from Miami and unofficialed to LSU Monday. But lets not give all the true details LOL

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    July 17, 2013 3:17 p.m.

    Welcome Donovan to the Ute Nation!

    Great job BJ for getting this recruit!

    Go UTES!!

    P.S. Donovan please ignore BYU fans like Black&Blue, the fact is the fans from "QB factory down south" are just jealous that KW has put more high school QB's in the NFL than BYU has since Chow left.

  • PG #1 FAN Lindon, UT
    July 17, 2013 3:17 p.m.

    @ Christy B

    This kid runs over a 5 second 40 yd dash, not eactly what I would call speed. He should fit in good in the Ute quarterback stable. Good luck Utah and your upcoming 3-9 season

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    July 17, 2013 3:11 p.m.

    A 6-5, 235-lbs dual-threat QB on the Hill? Yes please!

    Of course with Isom being a native Louisianan, we'll have to hope LSU doesn't pursue him any further. Apart from them (and MAYBE Nebraska), there shouldn't be too much in the way of keeping him committed to the Utes.

    canadianIndyWACer624:

    "Good to see you won a recruiting battle with Louisianna [sic] Tech and Tulane!...LOL!"

    What a frantic and emotional thing to say. Those 2 other school may have offered, but I wouldn't say we "won [any] recruiting battle[s]" against them. With an offer from the Miami Hurricanes, it's not as if he was seriously considering those other 2 midmajorey programs. We beat out Miami.

    "LOL"

  • Dnquixote Las Vegas, NV
    July 17, 2013 3:06 p.m.

    I haven't on these boards this year, now I remember why. Absolutely rotten with willfully ignorant Utah haters. I love all the half truths being thrown out as insults "Good to see you won a recruiting battle with Louisianna Tech and Tulane!" errrrr and Miami? Not to mention who else will/would have made offers by the end of next season. Don't forget, this kid is not even a senior yet!
    It's a solid commitment from a player with great potential. Star's don't mean everything, but they are a good overall indicator of a recruiting class' strength. I like to see big guys like this, who can develop skills, to compliment their size.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 17, 2013 2:54 p.m.

    Yball,

    Well your 3 and 4 star "studs" haven't won any more awards than our 1 and 2 star "duds"

    Our 3 and 4 stars own your 1 and 2 star choir boys on the field!

    LOL

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 17, 2013 2:52 p.m.

    canadiancougar,

    He has an offer from Miami.

    Ever heard of them?

  • Broom Hockey Champ Scottsdale, AZ
    July 17, 2013 2:27 p.m.

    Probably not that good if the top program in his home state, LSU, hasn't offered and other SEC and ACC teams haven't shown much interest.

  • NightOwlAmerica SALEM, OR
    July 17, 2013 2:21 p.m.

    Any player can succeed if they have the desire and opportunity regardless of how someone rates them.
    If he officially signs with Utah that would be great! Would open up the door to his friends and associates in the SEC.

  • BlameItOnTheOfficials Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 17, 2013 2:09 p.m.

    Oh yeah! This kid will be a key component in bringing the National Championship trophy to SLC! Count on it!!!

    We will run the table with the recruits we are bringing in!

  • Whoa Nellie American Fork, UT
    July 17, 2013 2:08 p.m.

    I'll bet he can throw a football over the Wasatch Mountains.

  • YBALL Provo, UT
    July 17, 2013 2:02 p.m.

    @Chris B

    Well your 3 and 4 star "studs" haven't won any more awards than our 1 and 2 star "duds" for the most part it seems to be the other way around!

    LOL!

  • canadiancougar624 Provo, UT
    July 17, 2013 1:58 p.m.

    Good to see you won a recruiting battle with Louisianna Tech and Tulane!

    LOL!

    Go Cougs!

  • dumprake Washington, UT
    July 17, 2013 1:51 p.m.

    A big stud QB who throws the football like a baseball. Better get the coaches working on his throwing motion, what he's doin now will never cut it in college.

  • dbrbmw Orem, UT
    July 17, 2013 1:47 p.m.

    Watched his video. His mechanics are horrible.

  • dbrbmw Orem, UT
    July 17, 2013 1:43 p.m.

    We can talk when you win a national championship. Or we can talk at the Legends Grill staring at the National Championship Trophy.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 17, 2013 1:25 p.m.

    @Little brother,

    Still living in the past I see.

    LOL!

    I care about Ute football today more than I care about 1984. So does the rest of the world.

    I invite you to join the rest of us who left 1984 30 years ago.

    Today we own you on the football field.

    We're dominating you in recruiting(including with head to head recruits)

    We're dominating you in reaching prestigious bowls

    And we're dominating in the race to a real conference.

    Today you have countless 1 and 2 stars(who aren't winning any individual awards)

    We have 3 stars while we're continuing to improve in a very tough conference.

  • FatMan86 West Jordan, UT
    July 17, 2013 1:23 p.m.

    @Chris B

    You and the BYU zealots are really no different. You both still claim big victories over things that don't involve actual on field wins. You have to resort to things like recruiting, TV money, etc. Everything except winning actual games.

    It's just so sad!

  • RS Holladay, UT
    July 17, 2013 1:19 p.m.

    He looks huge! wow.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    July 17, 2013 1:19 p.m.

    It does make it easier to recruit those out of state players when they know they can go home between semesters and spend the holidays with friends and family. It must surely cut down on the homesickness, and is a great selling point for the football program as well. I guess that makes it a win-win for everyone. However, it does put the other programs in the state at a bit of a disadvantage not having that selling point. I suppose they will just have to make due.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    July 17, 2013 1:13 p.m.

    And he will still get to spend the holidays at home with his family every year. How nice.

  • Y's little brother Sandy, UT
    July 17, 2013 1:09 p.m.

    christy

    Remind us the last time one of your many-starred recruits won a national individual award of any kind.

  • Brave Sir Robin San Diego, CA
    July 17, 2013 12:42 p.m.

    Meh. Call me after he signs a LOI, then maybe I'll get excited. A lot can happen between now and February...to every verbal commit of every school.

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    July 17, 2013 12:40 p.m.

    Welcome to the tribe. Excited to see what you can do in Utah´s system. As a QB in the PAC-12, you will get a lot of exposure nationally from the conference of QBs.

  • PAC12Fan South Jordan, UT
    July 17, 2013 12:36 p.m.

    Welcome to the Ute Nation. We look forward to seeing you compete for a spot and play against top notch talent each week. Onward and upward!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 17, 2013 12:25 p.m.

    The more and more we recruit OUT of Utah the better.

    In today's game, its all about power and speed.

    With Utah's demographics, those two things are simply lacking for the most part. The Poly community helps with the power. We should continue to use the Poly Pipeline, but other than that, we need to leave Utah as much as possible for recruiting.

    How many slow unathletic church boys do you see Florida, Alabama, USC, Ohio State going after?

    Yes, there will always be 2-3 worth going after. However they are the exception.

  • duggity Bountiful, UT
    July 17, 2013 12:23 p.m.

    Sounds like a talented kid. Had an offer from Miami. Not often you see a Louisiana boy pick Utah over an ACC team. Guess he didn't want "Played for Miami" on his police report. We are excited to see what he can do here.

  • Black&Blue St George, Utah
    July 17, 2013 12:21 p.m.

    Nice get for the Utes! This kid looks like a solid QB with great upside and potential. I've been really impressed with QB recruiting at the U the past few seasons. Now it's just the development factor, which is where KWhitt and BJ have fallen short. In any case, this is a great pick-up. Now let's see if U can hold onto this one :)

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 17, 2013 12:14 p.m.

    Our Pac 12 membership opens up recruiting in a big way.

    Some schools are limited mainly to logan and 2 star recruits.

    Some schools are limited to church boys and 1-2 star recruits.

    Some schools win BCS bowls, EARN invites to a real conference, and are simply better than other schools. These schools have higher average star ratings than other schools.

    And yes, stars matter. In a big way.

    Its been proven more 5 stars succeed than 4, 4 than 3, 3 than 2, and 2 than 1.

    GO Utes!

    GO Utes!

  • dgdrummin Ogden, UT
    July 17, 2013 12:10 p.m.

    Looks like a beast. Welcome aboard big fella.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 17, 2013 12:09 p.m.

    Can never have too many athletes with speed.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 17, 2013 12:08 p.m.

    More 3 stars recruits with other BCS offers!

    Other schools in Utah only wish they were getting such recruits.

    And if you think stars don't matter, Nick Saban disagrees with you.

    Go Utes!