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  • Harley Rider Small Town, CT
    July 18, 2013 5:15 p.m.

    The police did a full investigation and determined = self defense. The local Prosecutor agreed = never should of come to trial. When Martin went to grab Zimmerman's gun when he saw it was now a Life and Death situation and he made the decision to shoot his attacker rather than lose his own life. Would you just lay there and let someone beat in your face and then let them grab your weapon to either shoot you or someone else one day?

    FYI - Racism is about control and growing government. Jessie Jackson , Al Sharpton are just tools who are brought out to further the agenda. Sadly one day that powder keg is going off and soon I believe, gotta see how far them coming Goberment cuts go

  • Tomv Ogden, UT
    July 18, 2013 1:02 p.m.

    For an a count of what Jeantel told Piers Morgan, go to rushlimbaugh and read it. Deseret News won't allow me to publish a good account of it because the offensive language used by Jeantell, trayvon's girlfriend, is unprintable.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 17, 2013 4:32 p.m.

    Freeland, WA
    Perhaps in Washington people think GZ was guilty of some unnamed crime , but not the entire country. Zimmerman was found not guilty of the charges brought by the state. Most people accept the rule of law and don't riot when things don't go their way. There were no riots after OJ Simpson's acquittal.
    TX Turtle,
    Most people would have run the few yards to their home and safety. Trayon didn't know GZ was armed. Knowing that may have convinced him not to punch GZ in the face, throw him to the ground and pound his head. Had Zim been knocked unconscious or died, Martin would be the defendant. When both "flight or fight" reflexes were tuned to fight, no one wins.

  • Turtles Run Missouri City, TX
    July 17, 2013 11:20 a.m.

    Trayvon had a right to walk the streets without an armed person following and ultimately chasing him. Trayvon had a right to defend himself against a stranger chasing him.

  • cknott Cedar Hills , UT
    July 16, 2013 5:37 p.m.

    We should be able to defend ourselves. This should be a victory for most people of color who tend to live in higher crime neighborhoods. I cannot understand how we don't see it this way. The right to defend our neighborhoods, set up neighborhood watch programs and protect our neighborhoods from ANY who would want to harm them, regardless of race or ethnicity has been held up. I am sorry that Treyvon was acting suspiciously and in a neighborhood suspicious of outsiders. Racial profiling DOES happen, it is real and terrible but I don't think this happened here. I just wonder if he would have just left the neighborhood or explained what he was doing in the first place maybe no one would have lost a life. He was a teenager and in a neighborhood where he didn't live. We have to be able to protect or homes and families. This is a win for everyone in that way only. Both Zimmerman and Treyvon are victims in some way in this awful event and trial.

  • wwaa27 augusta, GA
    July 16, 2013 4:39 p.m.

    I think that we are all missing something, Its about the children and particularly the children in Florida. Casey Anthony, an adult, her child is dead, no justice, George Zimmerman, an adult, Trayvon Martin a 17 year old child is dead no justice, what is common in both situations not being black or white just being a child in the state of Florida. I think the people in Florida, the lawyers and the courts should be ashamed of this. We as people need to be concerned about children in this state, the precedent has been set, we need to remove race and remember that in both cases there was a child and an irresponsible adult. Put your child in the picture for some reason they can be killed in the state of Florida and the guilty in Florida will probably go free, how can this be just when a child dies at the hand of an adult. When my child was 17 he made decisions as a child, when he became an adult I expected him to take on the role of an adult.

  • Roger R Kansas City, KS
    July 16, 2013 4:27 p.m.

    You're a bunch of hypocrites in Utah!

  • dchsr Bounti, UT
    July 16, 2013 3:22 p.m.

    I heard some black leader stating that if this was the other way around, then we would all know the outcome. He was making the assumption in speaking to nonblack or white Americans that we would justify this behavior because of race if it was the other way around. Seriously? Pure Afrocentric bias dodo. Most all people are justice biased and I would say that in this case the Hispanic man had reasonable cause to pull out a gun and defend himself. Parting words to Travon...Your mistake for beating on a man that had a gun and the right to use it.

    We hope others will learn as they have apparently taken it into consideration because I don't see any wide spread riots in any gun rights states.

  • Brent T. Aurora CO Aurora, CO
    July 16, 2013 3:04 p.m.

    This reaction baffles me. The apparent rationale is that if any black person is killed it must be racially motivated. That is absurd. We have in this country jury trial. We don't have trial by media or mass hysteria. A jury deliberated and didn't convict. And no, we don't know what they knew. And we have no idea (really) what happened that night with Martin and Zimmerman. The fact is that despite all the hysteria that prompted Zimmerman's arrest, and apparently drove expectations for this trial, there just was no proof and therefore, thankfully they weren't swayed by public trial, the jury got this one right... because there was doubt... there is a lot of doubt. And if you're reading this and you have no doubt, if you're 100% convinced it was not self defense and was racially motivated, unless you were there that night (if so, why didn't you step forward as a witness?), you got your conviction from media coverage or you've got some divine power.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    July 16, 2013 2:36 p.m.

    Isn't it interesting that these people are decrying justice because it wasn't the kind that they liked. I have news for you. Learn to live with it. Justice was served because the system worked. Maybe not to your liking, but it worked.

    Personally I didn't agree with the OJ verdict. I thought it was a miscarriage of justice, but I lived with it and didn't go and protest the stupidity of the jury and verdict.

    Was Travon dying a sad thing? Yes. Should he have gone after Zimmerman? No. Had he just gone to his destination, nothing would have happened. But he turned around and went to fight. That caused his death.

    Sometimes, our actions have consequence. In this case, it lead to the death of a young man. Had Travon not started thumping Zimmerman, he would still be alive.

  • Ragnar Danneskjold Bountiful, UT
    July 16, 2013 2:01 p.m.

    re: teeoh
    There is proof that Zimmerman shot Martin.

    I was pointing out all of the "facts" that everybody who claims to know the story are fabricating.

    It is my opinion that in a case where a killer is obvious and admitted, that the burden of proof when there are no witnesses should fall on the killer (to avoid manslaughter at least). This is actually my understanding of affirmative defense laws. The burden of proof is much smaller, but it IS the defense's burden. This wasn't explained in the trial though.

    I don't find it logical that you can admit to killing someone and then say to the prosecution, "you now need to prove that it wasn't self defense". In actuality, the defendant should have to prove this. That is where those laws come from.

    I think that there are some that think everyone wanted Zimmerman to be found guilty of murder. This isn't really true. Murder was not reasonable. And that is where I think the prosecution lost this case. Trying to make a case for what wasn't there, and allowing the real case to slip through their fingers.

  • postaledith Freeland, WA
    July 16, 2013 2:00 p.m.

    There is intelligent life in the US, Barney. Most of the country feels that Zimmerman got away with murder.

  • BlueEyesBrittany Paris, 00
    July 16, 2013 1:53 p.m.

    Comments to my previous post : i would never condone any violence or wrongdoing anyone no more that i woud condone that some people get away with the wrong they do by using fallacious arguments.

  • teeoh Anytown, KY
    July 16, 2013 1:44 p.m.

    Ragnar, I find it interesting that you give a list of "no proof" of this and "no proof" of that, then immediately say "there are plenty of reasons to take this to trial..."

    Usually, proof or evidence is needed to take a case to trial. Of course, that is exactly why the prosecution had a problem in this case.

  • grip Meridian, ID
    July 16, 2013 1:43 p.m.

    Both were minorities. Where is the racial question? The jury heard the prosecution and defense and witnesses (which nearly no one else heard nor saw) and rendered a decision. What is the justice question? Emotions were stirred which often leads to erroneous decisions. Only decency can solve this powerful problem. Unlawful retaliation is committed by or creates criminals. Those who resort to this course of action need prosecution.

    One person is dead for which we have great sympathy. One person is alive and was not convicted of wrong doing. He can be made stronger or he can be destroyed. He has gone through fear, unsurety and all the other emotions attending an action of this time. I choose to build - not destroy.

  • BlueEyesBrittany Paris, 00
    July 16, 2013 1:33 p.m.

    No one ever defined racism as being the behaviour of one specific community towards another specifix community. Racism is from one community towards another, no matter which community. And when someone does something terrible to another person and if that person is denied the right to defend himself/herself on any ground, it is an act of total injustice.

    As long as people are judged on facts and the facts are proved then no one should use any fllacious argument to get away with what they do, which seems the case here or that would mean that that community or any other can continue to do all manners of wrongdoing and get away with it.

    My comments are made as a general observation as i suffered the same kind of prejudice because i was a caucasian. So i can understand how things can get twisted by some so they get away with what they do. There is a prejudice there and the one that are prejudiced are those who used the racist card to justify what they do or deny others their right to legal action or self defense.

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    July 16, 2013 1:27 p.m.

    We continue to ignore the that that most "inter-racial" crime (about 90+%) involves "black" perpetrators and "white" victims. Of course that doesn't matter to many, because it doesn't support or further their agenda.

  • Fred Vader Oklahoma City, OK
    July 16, 2013 12:51 p.m.

    Personally, I pray that none of us gets the "justice" we actually deserve. Think about it.

  • Ragnar Danneskjold Bountiful, UT
    July 16, 2013 12:48 p.m.


    There is no proof that he was snooping around the neighborhood.
    Zimmerman didn't know Martin's history, and it doesn't really have anything to do with the case anyway (I notice you left out Zimmerman's record, why would that be?)
    Well there are laws against following, but lets just say you are right.
    No law against walking down the street either.
    Dispatcher doesn't have authority, just training and experience that NW don't have.
    He could have done a lot of things, Zimmerman also could have not pursued him.
    There is no proof he was under the influence of drugs. Trace amounts of thc were found in Martin's system, which could have come from any time within a few weeks.
    No proof that Martin attacked Zimmerman.
    No proof that Martin was the aggressor.

    There are plenty of reasons to take this to trial if you aren't completely biased in the case.

  • oldschool Farmington, UT
    July 16, 2013 12:38 p.m.

    To draw comparisons between Zimmerman, who defended himself when attacked by a stranger in his own neighborhood simply for following a drugged-out suspect, and the innocent victims of Franklin is unconscionable. If somebody jumps me, breaks my nose and puts me in an indefensible position while bashing my skull onto concrete, I will do exactly as Zimmerman did, which was to scream loudly for help, and when that help does not come, protect my brain and my life by shooting the assailant. The race, religion, age or nationality of my assailant is immaterial and irrelevant. The FBI concluded that Zimmerman was not racist after interviewing dozens of witnesses. In fact GZ had mentored black children in his home, had taken a black woman to a prom, was the product of a mixed-race or at least a mixed-heritage marriage and was the chief person who worked to demand justice for a homeless black man, Sherman Ware, who had been attacked by the son of a police officer. Though I detest those who judge others by their race, religion or similar attributes, I have very little respect for people who will protest a verdict while ignoring incontrovertible facts.

  • FT1/SS Virginia Beach, VA
    July 16, 2013 12:30 p.m.

    11,000 plus black on black deaths have been committed since Trayvon's shooting, where's there outrage? They have more to worry about by people from there own race. I would bet that just about all these people watched no more than liberal media snipets of the trial. It's simple, Trayvon was snooping around the neighborhood when spotted by Zimmerman. Trayvon was investigated for home burgery, and drugs in the Miami area and fits the profile of burgarys in the Zimmerman neighborhood. Zimmerman calls police and follows, no law against following in this country, and dispatchers have no authority. Trayvon was close to home and could of phoned police if bothered. Instead, under the influence of drugs, turns around and attacks Zimmerman. Trayvon is the aggressor assaults Zimmerman, and Zimmerman defends himself. Case closed, never should of gone to trial. Alot of evidence kept out of the trial by a judge on the side of the prosecutor. Well done to the prosecutor in there defense of Zimmerman. They knew their was no case.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 16, 2013 12:05 p.m.


    Is your brother African American? If no then you are right, no one would care

  • Riverton Cougar Riverton, UT
    July 16, 2013 11:56 a.m.

    Hypothetically, let's say my brother gets very angry with these protesters and takes one down to the ground and starts pummeling him. Let's suppose that guy has a concealed weapon and shoots my brother and kills him. If there were a trial and the jury verdict was that the protester was acting in self-defense and won't be convicted of murder, how many of these protesters would be out protesting for my brother's sake? My guess is not a single one would even be upset about my brother's death, let alone feel that an injustice was done.

  • vance SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 16, 2013 11:29 a.m.

    If we do not have faith in our Jury system, what do we have left.Locally we must make sure we have the best people in our Law, law enforcement, city and county councils, and government who understand and will enforce our Constitution, and bill of rights. If our systems are corrupt or bad it is due to our own negligence.

  • RedShirtMIT Cambridge, MA
    July 16, 2013 11:28 a.m.

    These protestors don't want justice for Trevon. They want to lynch Zimmerman.

    As has been pointed out, Zimmerman was investigated by the FBI for racism, and came out clean.

    Charges were brought against Zimmerman as a result of protests in Florida to put Zimmerman on trial. They complied with the mob, and justice has been served.

    Now that justice has been served, those same protesters don't like the result, and now are calling for a lynching. Since when do the mobs run the judicial system?

  • merman Layton, UT
    July 16, 2013 11:09 a.m.

    I am disgusted by the protest regarding the Zimmerman case. This is not an issue of racism, it is an issue of self defense mired in a misunderstanding on the parts of both George Zimmeran and Trayvon Martin. It had tragic consequences. But Trayvon started the physical altercation and George feared for his life. I would too. Since when is reporting suspicious behavior a bad thing? The neighborhood was experiencing a crime wave - GZ was trying to help keep the peace. What happened to America? Why do we want there to be racism where there is none? Why can't we let the country heal?

  • Cobalt Blue West Jordan, UT
    July 16, 2013 11:04 a.m.

    The encounter between Zimmerman and Martin happened a year and a half ago at 7:00 p.m., in the winter, when it's typically dark. If someone is wearing a hoodie in the dark, it would be difficult to tell the color of anyone's skin. This is a very sad case, but it has never been about race. If you want to get mad at someone, try taking it out on the media because they are the ones -- like so many other things they "report" -- who have twisted things around. And before you call me racist, you should know there are mixed races in my wonderful family whom I dearly love.

  • Badger55 Nibley, Ut
    July 16, 2013 10:55 a.m.

    per crime statistics from BJS.
    The rate of whites committing racially motivated crimes against Blacks in the US is approximately 1 in 166,000. The rate at which Blacks commit racially motivated crimes against whites in the US is approximately 1 in 125,000. More blacks are committing crimes against whites per capita than visa versa.

    look at homicides. from FBI Statistics for 2010
    1088 homicides of white victim by black offender
    240 Homicides of Black victim by white offender

    The list goes on and on. One would be surprised with a little research. Racism exists in the US plain and simple. Honestly, i do not see a way of eliminating it altogether. But, in this day and age, races have never been on a more even playing field in the US.

    Make your own assumptions, but those are the facts.

  • The Skeptical Chymist SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 16, 2013 10:47 a.m.


    Trayvon Martin was on the phone to his girlfriend. Maybe he wanted to continue that conversation in the privacy afforded by the outdoors, where he could wander around, focusing all his attention on what she was saying to him and what he was saying to her. The mere fact that he spent more time than necessary on his way home shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone who's ever had a girlfriend.

    Yes, we now have witnesses who have testified that Martin was on top, beating Zimmerman's head on the concrete. As far as I know we have no evidence of who attacked whom first. We don't know whether Zimmerman was under the influence of drugs or alcohol, because the police didn't see fit to test him at the time. That was a dereliction of their duty to investigate. Of course, they could test Martin later, since he was no longer metabolizing the drugs.

    If we are going to have armed men patrolling neighborhoods, they need to be much better trained than Zimmerman. They should identify themselves as neighborhood watch officers and offer to walk the person they meet to his destination.

  • tenx Santa Clara, UT
    July 16, 2013 10:29 a.m.

    BO stirred the pot, the media picked it up and ran hard and fast with it and even edited the events to make the white-Hispanic look racist, then Al and Jesse saw an opportunity and got involved (surprise) and the special prosecutor made a fool of herself. Pretty well sums up the week. Question-what is their motive? What and Why? Go figure!

  • sushirocks8 SLC, UT
    July 16, 2013 10:24 a.m.

    Hey Sheople. While you were all busy getting distracted by this trial, which most of you protesting obviously know nothing about, you're very own rights and freedoms were being stripped away from you. How about that?

  • md Cache, UT
    July 16, 2013 10:13 a.m.


    "No Justice, No Peace".


  • UtahBruin Saratoga Springs, UT
    July 16, 2013 10:03 a.m.

    @Ragnar Danneskjold

    In response to your statement. Nope, I didn't, I kept up on it here and there. As you can tell I don't by the "preconceived" notions of racism or profiling like everyone else and I can only assume yourself bought into. And no, my opinion has no bias. What I saw and learned from the evidence is that there was none. Again, I had no preconceived notions, I can only go off of what I heard, same as you I am sure. My understanding of the case is not approved of by you. Please don't take offense but I really don't care if you approve of it or not. I am a person who lives in the black and white, the grey is what gets people into trouble. Either it is or it is not. Why leave it open to speculation, it is my opinion, it does no mean I am right or I am wrong. Much like the evidence, in this case it had to be wrong because there was none. We can only go off what was factual, not circumstantial. Only my understanding of the law you know.

  • OHBU Columbus, OH
    July 16, 2013 9:53 a.m.


    White Hispanic has been a race category on the census for over a decade. Go walk around Mexico City, Buenos Aires, or Rio. Guess what you'll find--a wide variety of skin tones. Just like in the US, most Hispanic countries are made up of people of Indian descent, and European descent. In a larger sense, race doesn't actually exist in a biological way. It is entirely a social construct. It is often about self definition, and from some of the claims by people such as Zimmerman's own cousin, he absolutely identified himself as White and Hispanic.

    Also, to all those complaining about which pictures the media used of Trayvon, do you know what the last two pictures of him were? One hugging his mother, and one where he is on a horse. Hardly the images of the thug you all want him to be.

  • SCfan clearfield, UT
    July 16, 2013 9:46 a.m.


    Would you be saying the same if Trayvon had completed his head bashing of George and it was Zimmerman who was either brain damaged or dead?

    And it isn't celebrating that someone died, it is that most of us saw justice done with the known evidence of the case. That was not what happened in either the O.J. case or the Rodney King case.

  • Linus Bountiful, UT
    July 16, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    "Justice for Trayvon!"

    What does that mean? I don't know. And the people chanting it don't know. The silent majority are quietly and privately thanking God for a justice system that delivered "Justice for George!"

    I wish I had a DesNews subscription so I could cancel it for their constant use of slanted articles provided them by the liberal media.

  • Ragnar Danneskjold Bountiful, UT
    July 16, 2013 9:36 a.m.

    Re: UtahBruin
    "He probably said something to the affect of "Hey you" which was probably returned with a finger and few choice words from Trayvon who we all know now was a thug, not the innocent looking boy in the picture."

    Obviously you followed the case very closely. Your opinion has no bias or leanings. I'm sure your assessment of the evidence contains equally unbiased, strictly academic interest in the case where you had no preconceived notions. Your understanding of this case and the law are above reproach.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    July 16, 2013 9:32 a.m.

    * CNN reported the news with the editing done by NBC.

    * What's going on in the world, now the news is on the trial.

    * Should Zimmerman have allowed himself to be beaten to death, and would it have been on national news?

  • Binder Salt Lake City, UT
    July 16, 2013 9:25 a.m.

    Just curious ... who created (or paid for) all these pre-printed signs? Was it one of those groups or individuals who profit from (or who feel important when) stirring up racial animosity?

  • Ronnie123 Cartersville, GA
    July 16, 2013 9:21 a.m.

    No justice. No peace!

  • JSB Sugar City, ID
    July 16, 2013 9:12 a.m.

    I don't have a concealed carry permit but the violent and irrational behavior of some of the protesters have caused me to think that for my own safety, a concealed carry permit might be a good idea.

  • Tolstoy salt lake, UT
    July 16, 2013 9:10 a.m.

    @fed up

    why not add to that list the Muslims killed by Christians in African countries and the Protestant and catholic violence in northern Ireland?

  • Ragnar Danneskjold Bountiful, UT
    July 16, 2013 9:09 a.m.

    The comments on this article are sad.

    Lots of people crying about racism and injecting politics. It reminds me of the group that the GOP got together after losing the presidential election to talk about what needs to change in the party. One of the points of emphasis afterward was to reach out to minority communities, and start using speech that would attract more minorities. It looks like the general sentiment from Des News readers (judging by # of likes and # of comments) is that they would be more happy with a "Southern Strategy" than an outreach program.

    I have found that there is a sickening number of people who are basing their opinion on this case on politics. The celebratory feeling from many people is even more disturbing. A young man is dead. How can people forget that?

  • ulvegaard Medical Lake, Washington
    July 16, 2013 9:08 a.m.

    Everywhere I keep reading how wronged everyone was by this verdict. At least, as far as I can discern, those who feel the outcome was a slap in the face of justice, feel that way because someone who was black died at the hands of someone who was not black. End of story.

    The evidence presented at the trial and which was dully weighed by the jury, concluded that Mr. Zimmerman was not guilty as charged.

    So, as we read these banners, justice for Treyvon, does that mean we should put this unfortunate youth on trial for assault (he struck Mr. Zimmerman). Should he be put on trial for illegal drug use (evidence bore this out too)? Or do we simply want someone who is not black to be convicted of something, anything, so that 'justice' can be served?

    Let's put down the signs and try to focus our attention on educating our youth to be law abiding citizens. Let's contribute our time and our means to defending the countless numbers who are slaughtered each year in the name of jihad, or those who go hungry because food is scarce for them.

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    July 16, 2013 9:03 a.m.

    I guess now that there is a racial category known as White Hispanic, due to one parent being white, we can now call President Obama a White African American.

  • MarkJ South Jordan, Utah
    July 16, 2013 9:01 a.m.

    The simple fact here is that you can't take an isolated case and make an example out of it. In this particular case, no matter who you think is right or wrong, there simply wasn't enough evidence to make it worth even charging Zimmerman. Did he do something wrong? I don't know and neither do you, but innocent until proven guilty means this whole trial was a waste of public money.

  • twelvestringsam Orem, UT
    July 16, 2013 8:58 a.m.

    Nothing was said about the trial. Why? I would like all the facts and then find out what came out in the hearing and trial. In this country someone should be deemed innocent until proven guilty. Was he proven guilty?

  • coleman51 Orem, UT
    July 16, 2013 8:56 a.m.

    Whoever wrote this article was clearly race-baiting. None of the cases cited had any comparison to the George Zimmerman trial. All the cases cited could clearly show a hate crime and were abhorred by the public in general no matter what the political stripe. With the George Zimmerman trial, here was an Hispanic neighborhood watch person who seeing someone suspicious in his neighborhood was simply doing his duty. When Trayvon Martin left and Zimmerman retreated to his truck, Trayvon suddenly appears and threatens Zimmerman. He jumps Zimmerman and proceeds to pound him. With his life endangered and Trayvon threatening to take away his life, Zimmerman defended himself with deadly force. The person who wrote this article reveals his own prejudice by framing it as a hate crime. Deseret News needs to be more careful what is written and not allow such a biased interpretation of the news.

  • ThornBirds St.George, Utah
    July 16, 2013 8:55 a.m.

    As many on these forums continue to insinuate that George Zimmerman is the "good Guy", and Trayvon Martin is the "bad guy" , I would ask the DN to open up some files from GZ's past, legal information that was not made admissible to be introduced or discussed at the trial because of motions by George Zimmerman's defense lawyers.
    I would ask the DN to share George Zimmerman's criminal history.
    This information, should the DN choose to share it, will show what kind of an individual George Zimmerman truly is.
    I have faith in you right now, Deseret News. Please don't let the information seeking public down.

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    July 16, 2013 8:50 a.m.


    A big point you may have missed is that several minutes passed where Trayvon could have already been in his home. What happened then? One fact we seem to know for sure is that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman and pounding his head into the cement. The gun, may have saved Zimmerman from brain injury or even death. It's therefore possible that Trayvon came back to confront Zimmerman, and caused the physical confrontation. Therefore the gun was a possible life saver for Zimmerman. And that's why many of us believe in the right to carry is a good thing. And by the way Mr. Chymist, drugs make people do stupid things. So it isn't irrelevent that Trayvon was drugged.

  • Lane Myer Salt Lake City, UT
    July 16, 2013 8:48 a.m.

    "Last year alone, nearly one black child a day under the age of 17 was shot and killed in New York City. Shot mostly by other black city residents," Sharpton said.

    "Shootings and violence within our community by one of our own is an outrage and an issue that we must confront..."

  • bzmomo6 Carthage, NC
    July 16, 2013 8:47 a.m.

    If Trayvon Martin had been a white gangster looking kid with a history of drug abuse and violence, there would be no demonstrations. I don't think for one minute that his color had anything to do with the killing - only the outcry.

  • john d REXBURG, ID
    July 16, 2013 8:45 a.m.

    I am courious any one ever follow up about the white baby being shot with his mother in Georgia by black kids or how about the guy got beat up in Georgia by blacks on this zimmer case I hope and pray its not going to be a race riot war

  • john d REXBURG, ID
    July 16, 2013 8:38 a.m.

    this wasn't a race issue. zimmermen is a Hispanic decent. a race card was never played unkike the Utah case zimmermen wasn't going around shooting blacks and jews just for the fun of it. yes it sad it happen. the liberal media will play it all its worth. watch Obama will used this for his gun control agenda. if some one attack me rather what color of their skin I would defend myself to.

  • m.g. scott clearfield, UT
    July 16, 2013 8:35 a.m.

    The Rock recounts a lot of the most important points to this whole case, namely the news media creating a racial issue where none existed. That editing of the 911 tape by NBC News, should have been enough to have their broadcasting license revoked. There is obviously a liberal mindset in America that anyone not liberal is a racist, and they try to prove it by trumping up a phony issue like this one. Sharpton has been one of the worst at trying to create race problems in America, mostly because without race division, guys like him and Jesse Jackson, and other liberals have no foundation from which to attack America. Thank God the justice system did not give in to the PC of this trial. However, watch out for the race baiters to look for another trumped up issue to cry about, and NBC to broadcast their propaganda.

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    July 16, 2013 8:27 a.m.

    The liberal mindset has not reached the point where EVERYTHING is about race. People like Thomas Sowell, Ted Cruz, and Mia Love are conveniently ignored because they don't happen to fit the pattern of the abused ethnic. Martin was shot not because of his race, but because he decided to take an altercation to the next level without considering all the consequences. Zimmerman went to trial not because of a crime, but because of political pressure and an extension of a modern lynch-mob mentality.

  • byufootballrocks Herndon, VA
    July 16, 2013 8:26 a.m.

    The idea of a comparison or reference to the Joseph Paul Franklin case is absurd, ridiculous and offensive on its face.

    The FBI came to Seminole County and interviewed dozens who knew George Zimmerman and couldn't find a single person who felt in any respect that he was a racist. He took care of black children in his own home, took an African American to the prom, was raised in a bi-racial household. Why don't you get off it?

    Quick smearing George Zimmerman. All of the forensic evidence backed up his story of what happened that night. The evidence demonstrated he was attacked in the dark, and a jury of his peers found he acted in self-defense. So get off it.

    Quit trying to make an issue where there is none.

  • Abinadis friend Boise, Idaho
    July 16, 2013 8:24 a.m.

    It seems that the racism problem at this point describes those who do not want equality, they want superiority. They don't want to have to adhere to the rules they want new one's just for them.

  • Burnham Bountiful, Utah
    July 16, 2013 8:21 a.m.

    Get a life folks. The law has spoken. Whether it is flawed or not is not the question. What about all the blacks who kill blacks? Isn't that a bigger problem than this one case? People who didn't even hear the evidence are getting on their high horses over the verdict. You are going with what you think happened without benefit of the evidence. Boy, can we be wrong when we do that? Judging with unrighteous judgment. As I understand it, it was self defense. If this had been Zimmerman (a hispanic) who shot a white teenager on drugs, we wouldn't be hearing about it at all. So why do things bloom out of control because of the color or the teenager's skin. Does that make you racist if you only get upset over black people being killed? What about all the unnecessary deaths? I know the Martin family is in pain and I understand that pain but is this just making their pain worse? Seems to me they asked that we not do this for their peace of mind. Lets do as the Martin family has requested.

  • Mountanman Hayden, ID
    July 16, 2013 8:18 a.m.

    As sad as this issue is, I find it interesting that no one is upset or outraged that 90% of black people who are murder victims are murdered by other black people. Where is the outrage Mr. Sharpton, Mr. Jesse Jackson, Mr. Obama and others?

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    July 16, 2013 8:18 a.m.

    As I watched the morning news I saw a street full of angry black men beating up white men who all looked like they could be Obama's sons! Trayvon was just as guilty as Zimmerman, unfortunately his fololishness cost him his life!

  • play by the rules SOUTH JORDAN, UT
    July 16, 2013 8:17 a.m.

    A jury of his peers with information the Lame Stream Media did not provide found George Zimmerman not guilty. It appears the Democrats are now anti Hispanic. The GOP should now use this to divide the Democrat base. I hate class warfare, but the Dems are SO good at it.

  • The Skeptical Chymist SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    July 16, 2013 8:04 a.m.

    I wasn't on the jury; I didn't follow the trial in any sort of detail. It may well have been an injustice to convict Zimmerman of anything - even manslaughter. Nevertheless, I'm saddened by the fact that an unarmed young man, distractedly talking on the phone to his girlfriend, was pursued by an untrained individual with a gun, leading to his death. This really illustrates the dangers of untrained neighborhood watch individuals who take it upon themselves to patrol the neighborhood. It would have been far better for Zimmerman to stay in the car and let the trained police officers deal with the situation. I hope that he is now asking himself why he didn't do that.

    Whether Martin had marijuana in his system is totally irrelevant to anything. That's not uncommon and a trained police officer would have been prepared for that.

    I hope that this entire episode helps people who imagine themselves to be policemen protecting their neighborhoods to be a bit less arrogant and self-certain when they characterize individuals in the neighborhood as "punks who always get away".

  • FDRfan Sugar City, ID
    July 16, 2013 7:56 a.m.

    Nearly 33 years ago, Johnnie Mae Martin's teenage son was shot and killed in Liberty Park by an avowed racist

    Other than the name Martin what is the connection? This is no way to improve anything.

  • LVIS Salt Lake City, UT
    July 16, 2013 7:55 a.m.

    These people need to go to the pet store, buy a dog, and name it 'Life'. Then, they'll have one.

  • 5 Orem, UT
    July 16, 2013 7:46 a.m.

    President Obama stated in his book Dreams From My Father, that at an early age,He was referring to middle teens, he became aware that he was gifted at deceiving people about his true feelings of race. The context of his remarks seem to be that he was very proud of the fact. He is showing that racism now by his actions in this case by his words and actions. Eric Holder is also allowing his racism to show. He should be equally as active in investigating and responding to the nearly 200 deaths in Chicago over the 4th of July weekend. The difference between those deaths and the Trayvon death is that most of the Chicago deaths were determined to be Black on Black, and gang related.
    Since the media branded Zimmerman as a white Mexican, why don't they label Obama a white Black? Could it be the media is a bit racist as well?

  • DN Subscriber Cottonwood Heights, UT
    July 16, 2013 7:42 a.m.

    This "demonstration" is proof of how wonderful our freedom of speech rights are.

    Even the least informed, most bigoted and misguided among us can freely assembly and express their views. Anyone can protest "...racism, police brutality and racial profiling," even when NONE of these elements were present in the Trayvon Martin incident. Of course, there was plenty of racism afterwards trying to lynch a man who legally defended himself with deadly force, just because he was a different race than the man who attacked him.

    There really are "low information voters" in this country, and you can see them at demonstrations like this where emotion trumps facts, agenda tops justice, and the liberal media alliance will reliably show up and lend credibility to their cause, even when it is factually, legally and morally wrong.

    It would be interesting to compare photos of this demonstration with other radical left events, and I bet you will see many of the same people at all of them. A mere handful out of a million plus in Salt Lake.

    Freedom of speech is truly great, even when abused.

  • techpubs Sioux City, IA
    July 16, 2013 7:40 a.m.

    According to the young lady he was talking with TM was outside the house where he was going to and apparently didn't go in. Four minutes later he was over a block away from that house and fighting with GZ who shot him. That evidence of what happened was introduced by the Prosecution and leaves plenty of reason to believe that GZ had lost sight and broken off pursuit to return to his vehicle. Maybe that along with other facts that we did not here provide reasonable doubt to the 6 jurors who I heard went into deliberations with 3 votes of not guilty, 2 votes of manslaughter, and 1 vote of second degree murder. Sixteen hours later they were unanimous in saying not guilty.

    Whether or not you like the verdict our justice system worked the way it is supposed to.
    The State failed to prove guilt beyond any doubt.

  • Albert Maslar CPA (Retired) Absecon, NJ
    July 16, 2013 7:40 a.m.

    Racism like all other forms of hate that lead to violence are and have always been wrong, but it is like the Hatfield and McCoy feud that went on for 100 years until well past the time it was forgotten that initially the feud was over an allegedly stolen pig. Current racism charges and related violence over Zimmerman killing Trayvon are a fraud in their own right because a six-woman jury included including a Black woman found the evidence did not support the charges, that simple. Not justifying any racism, the fact is that accusers of racism by Whites are guilty of racism at higher proportional rates making it totally unjustifiable that there should be national protests fostered by leaders that incite to riot and violence. Ironically, this unfortunate killing of Black Trayvon was done by a Hispanic, not a White, so why the animus against the White community? Hispanics represent 17% of the population versus 14% for Blacks, meaning this was one minority against another minority incident. Was the Sanford "not guilty" verdict an opportunity for those who want to create unrest, turmoil, and violence to keep themselves in the limelight as self-appointed Black Leaders?

  • Beverly Eden, UT
    July 16, 2013 7:35 a.m.

    This tragedy should focus our collective attention on the following facts. 1. 13% of Americans are African Americans, but account for over 50% of people in America's prisons. 2. Stop and think, half of the 13% of African Americans are women, and women in prison only make up 5% of the prison population. This points out that 6% of our population is African American males, yet this population in America makes up 50% of those in prison. But wait a minute, a full third of the African American population is children and we don't put very many children in prison! These numbers clearly point out that approximately 4% of America's population are African American males, yet they make up over 50% of those in prison. Is "the blindfolded "Lady Justice" so blind that she can see her balance scales? I'm not saying the people in prison are not guilty - I'm saying we need to address the real issues of inner city poverty, poor education, and single parent families. All we do is get tougher on criminals - and it is expensive and not solving the problem.

  • Crossfire5 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 16, 2013 7:32 a.m.

    The outrage over the Zimmerman verdict was predictable. The issue of racism must be kept alive, not because it eats at the fabric of our nation as it once did, but because it is convenient for political and legal purposes. If racism completely died away in America, the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons among us would no longer serve a purpose and would become unknowns. The Democratic Party would face a serious crisis as well.

  • Charles.Reese FULTON, MO
    July 16, 2013 7:30 a.m.

    The Zimmerman trial was about race and politics. After reading this article it seems that the demonstrators were ignorant of the Florida stand your ground law. George Zimmerman at the time of the conflict with Treyvon Martin felt that he was going to die and that is why he acted.

    By all the evidence that was presented and the facts that we know or were presented favored Mr. Zimmerman from the beginning. As it has been said so many times, this case should have never gone to court. We have many who want and do believe in social justice, which by the way is wrong.

    They believe that because a young black man who potentially was up to no good was killed that it is only fair that Mr. Zimmerman be incarcerated or put to death. I saw that Heavenly Father was mentioned in this piece.

    I find that ironic because as we learn in The Book of Mormon there were many instances where the Nephites had do defend their families, religion, and their freedom from being taken a way. So, they were justified in defending themselves just as Mr. Zimmerman was justified.

  • Nate Pleasant Grove, UT
    July 16, 2013 7:19 a.m.

    In a second-degree murder charge, the prosecution must prove that the defendant acted with ill will, hatred, spite, or evil intent. When self defense is claimed, they must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that that the motive was something other than self defense. None of the witnesses provided evidence of these things.

    It would have been an injustice to convict Zimmerman without evidence.

  • Barney Google Beaver, UT
    July 16, 2013 7:19 a.m.

    A protest against the verdict of George Zimmerman?
    Is there intelligent life in the US anymore?
    What trial did these people watch that was different from the one I watched.
    In Zimmerman’s own words to the 911 dispatcher; it was that he didn't know Trayvon Martin’s race, he was profiled as a suspect carousing through the community.
    I believe there was far less racism in America before the people in the executive office came to power, I believe the majority of Americans are getting sick and tired of the minority playing the race card for political and financial benefit.
    Catch a clue you people, your blindly following the architects of racism i.e; remember Tawana Brawley rape allegations?
    History does repeat itself.
    And the Justus system worked.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    July 16, 2013 7:13 a.m.

    Here is the problems in this case. First Treyvon was a punk. He attacked Zimmerman. Next the phony media made this into a race case.Then the potus got involved like he always does. Like with the Conn. case. Next the prosecutor filed a case with no evidence. Zimmerman did what he should have done that is protect himself. Now the same bunch who camped in the park last year are trying again to get attention.

  • ute alumni paradise, UT
    July 16, 2013 7:12 a.m.

    Too bad people don't have jobs and are resigned to govt. handouts and time to wander aimlessly on the streets

  • 1hemlock Tooele, Utah
    July 16, 2013 6:57 a.m.

    What the "crowds" seem to want is revenge not justice. Justice was served. 1) The state put on as good a prosecution as they could have and even went overboard . . so justice served there. 2)The jurors of 6 women, 5 of whom had children listened and did NOT find a preponderance of evidence to convict on anything. Are the "crowds" saying all six are racists? . . . justice served there 3) the case was NOT a stand your ground case. Wasn't even invoked. It was a self defense case. 4) Both Zimmerman and Martin profiled; Did both contribute to the fight , yes, could both have gone home, yes but in the fight Zimmerman defended himself against the more aggressive Martin. Martin contributed to his demise by trying to punch out Zimmerman.
    Does racism exist? yes it does on both sides but NOT in this case.
    The real question is why black young men feel they have to fight like that to "prove" anything, whether in Sanford, FL or in Chicago?

  • The Rock Federal Way, WA
    July 16, 2013 6:51 a.m.

    This controversy divides not along racial lines but along ideological lines. Most conservatives believe that Zimmerman is innocent. Liberals do not. The conservative news sources presented facts that the old media just ignored. NBC doctored a tape to make it appear that Zimmerman was racist. Zimmerman is suing and for good reason. The old media twisted the facts.

    The local police found that Zimmerman did act in self defense.
    The local prosecutors refused to file charges because they had no case.
    State prosecutors stepped in and charged Zimmerman with crimes that they could not prove.
    CNN started calling Zimmerman a "White Hispanic" to distort the truth.
    The Feds are considering prosecuting for hate crimes.

    The left needs racism to flare up. If only 15% of the African American population were to vote Republican the Democrats would never win the White House again and they would lose all hope of controlling the House and Senate.
    Racism is a club used by liberals to bludgeon conservatives. They must keep racism alive.

    "Racist" is a name liberals call conservatives when the liberal is losing the argument.

  • The Sensible Middle Bountiful, UT
    July 16, 2013 6:41 a.m.

    If people feel defending themself is wrong, fine, but no one has a right to impose this philosophy on others.

    I'd bet that if these protesters were attacked, some would fight back. Not all of them would be willing to walk the walk.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    July 16, 2013 6:22 a.m.

    Who sponsored this rally? What organization? Who is their spokesman?
    This was not a spontaneous event. Look at all the pre-printed posters.
    In the interest of fair journalism we ought to know who is behind it.

  • TimBehrend Auckland NZ, 00
    July 16, 2013 6:17 a.m.

    Am not sure that "Salt Lake Crowd Decries..." is the best headline for this piece. Maybe you should have used "mob" or "rabble" in place of "crowd".

  • md Cache, UT
    July 16, 2013 6:16 a.m.

    Tim DeChristopher was there? Well then, it must be a worthy cause. He has never wasted anyone's time/money.

  • JimInSLC Salt Lake City, UT
    July 16, 2013 6:12 a.m.

    They want "justice"? I can only assume that in these protestors opinion a guilty verdict for Zimmerman would be justice.

    A jury of peers was presented the evidence and found him not guilty. Who are we to say that justice was not done? All we have seen is what is presented in the media; An emphasis on Travon's youth, his race, and a photo showing him several years earlier looking like a clean-cut smiling kid. How could anyone so young and small in stature inflict the trauma upon Zimmerman that he reported, causing him to be fearful of his life? Well, the kid in the photo is not the person that Zimmerman confronted on that night.

    To pronounce Zimmerman guilty when you have not seen the evidence, that that would be injustice. I was not there, I must trust that the jury, having heard the evidence, came up with the right and just verdict.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    July 16, 2013 5:17 a.m.

    how many of those protestors were present the night martin and zimmerman fought?

    a big, fat ZERO

    they do not know

    how many of those protestors heard every word of testimony and saw every but of evidence?

    a big fat zero

    how many of those protestors were present in the jury room while the jury was deliberating

    another big, fat zero.

    how many of those protestors came out in protests and riots when OJ was found not guilty of murdering Nicole?

    another big, fat zero

    why no cries of racism then?

  • Chase Saint George, UT
    July 16, 2013 1:52 a.m.

    @ Fed Up

    Those were my exact thoughts earlier today. All kinds of black on black murder . . . in the hundreds. Any marching or protesting. Of course not, that wouldn't benefit any agenda, movement, or politicians.

    Doesn't the black community know they are being played? Hijacking Reverend King on this issue and then promoting violence, unrest, and civil disobedience is incongruent.

    This is not a left or right issue. This is just wrong.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 15, 2013 11:44 p.m.

    @SC Native
    "Those protesting saying racism are racist. It was a Hispanic man that killed a young boy."

    Hispanics can't be racist?

    "So, really, if any claims of "racism" are going to happen it should be against these women."

    I disagree. Zimmermann is the one with the history of calling the police to report suspicious behavior, every instance of which involved black individuals. He's the one who decided without any legitimate basis I can think of that Treyvon was a punk and worthy of alerting the authorities over. It can totally be that Zimmermann is racist but racism isn't the charge here, murder/manslaughter was. He instigated a situation that Martin elevated to a fight that led to Zimmermann elevating it to Martin's death.

    One can consider that a racist starting a fight and both of them making mistakes in handling it until eventually Zimmerman shot Martin to defend himself. Doesn't require the person making that conclusion be racist.

  • CloudsAreGood Costa Mesa, CA
    July 15, 2013 11:27 p.m.

    I wish this Deseret News put it in perspective more. How many of are NOT out on the streets protesting, because we're not vilifying a man who is not a racist? Why don't they report on all the murders, actual murders, even of innocent kids, that happen on the streets of Chicago and elsewhere, where no weeping crowd is protesting for THEM? Where is the empathy and justice for THEM? This country has become ridiculous and many obviously would rather have "justice" as it is practiced in Iran rather than through the democratic/court system we have here.

  • Counter Intelligence Salt Lake City, UT
    July 15, 2013 10:47 p.m.

    There was a tragic misunderstanding, fight and killing in Florida, but the racism was spawned at the Department of Justice

  • Rick2009 MESA, AZ
    July 15, 2013 10:45 p.m.

    This trial should have never happened. It happened for only ONE reason which I will not state and we all know it.

  • abtrumpet Provo, UT
    July 15, 2013 10:41 p.m.

    Well, let's see. Trial by peers means that a jury of 4 women decided unanimously that he was not guilty. And also, remember that if any one of the jurors has any doubt at all, they cannot convict him of it. So, really, if any claims of "racism" are going to happen it should be against these women. But honestly, I imagine they considered this very carefully and did the best they could. This was never supposed to blow up this huge. Only when the media twisted it to make it look like it was a racially-motivated "murder" is when it became a national sensation. Thank goodness justice isn't a popularity contest. Or is it?

  • fed up Provo, UT
    July 15, 2013 10:36 p.m.

    Why not protest the five hundreds gun deaths in Chicago last year?????????

    Or maybe the Christians killed in the middle east which was absolutely profiling????

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    July 15, 2013 10:28 p.m.

    Liberal media doesn't play up the fact that Treyvon was under the influence of illegal drugs when he attacked Zimmerman

    In fact, when Zimmerman called police he said "it looks like he's on drugs"

    He was.

    Another fact: Treyin had four minutes to go home and/or call police if he felt in danger before he attacked Zimmerman.

    He lives a few dozen yards away

    More than enough time to call police or go home or both if he truly felt scared

    Zimmerman did the right thing when he noticed someone acting suspiciously

    He had the right to follow

    He had the right to carry

    He had the right to defend.

  • SC Native South Jordan, UT
    July 15, 2013 10:18 p.m.

    Those protesting saying racism are racist. It was a Hispanic man that killed a young boy. Get over it. Blame the prosecutors if you want to blame someone. They are the ones that didn't present the case for a guilty verdict.