Most of you guys are overanalyzing this move. The Jazz are filling roster spots.
That's all this is. They did not see John Lucas and say,man this guy is
going to take us places. He is cheap and gives the Jazz another point guard. He
will play a year or 2 here probably and that will be the extent of it.To the fan that said this has been a bad offseason. No, it has not. Resigning
Al and Paul and being an 8th seed contender would be worse. The way the NBA
works is you have to clean house and rebuild every once in a while. The Spurs
did it before they made this run, the Thunder, the Heat before 2006, the Lakers
before Gasol, the Bulls pretty much since MJ retired and D Rose came. The Jazz are developing their young talent, keeping financial flexibility and
will have a good draft pick in a deep draft next year most likely. How is that a
bad plan as opposed to bringing back a mediocre team that probably would miss
the playoffs anyway?I look forward to seeing the youngsters develop
Osgrath hit the nail on the head. I get a little tired of people and sites that
forecast the season.They already have the champion crowned. Lets play the season
and see what happens ..
A very juvenile approach always looks for immediate gratification. A lot of
immaturity on this board today - people who think running after free agents in
this year’s shallow pool would take the Jazz to the promised land. People
need to recognize that Utah is not New York, Chicago or L.A. It more closely
resembles places like Oklahoma City or San Antonio. Both those success stories
gained their current status through the draft, not by wholesale signing of free
agents. Another point seemingly lost on the whiners is that after
the Mailman and Stockton retired, the Jazz was stuck in a recurring cycle of
mediocrity because they have been too good to get great draft picks but never
had the quality to get to the second round of the playoffs more than on rare
occasions. Now they have five starters under the age of 23. None is an obvious
hall-of-famer, but a great and cohesive team is always more lastingly effective
than a superstar with a weak supporting cast. As young as they are, we can
certainly expect them to improve, perhaps exponentially. Won’t happen
unless they play, though.
@Brahmabullyou say that the jazz should just pay free agents...and
get free agents...ok...who do you think should return with us? and who do you
think is that missing piece to get us a championship?...Big Al? Millsap? Mo?
Igoudala? Calderon? Teague?...and i guess you are also willing to let go of
Hayward Favors, Kanter and Burks in the future...so who'll you replace them
with?...to be honest...Big Al and Paul Millsap are just not good enough to get
us a championship...even if you add players like Igoudala Calderon or
teague...you might say sign Pekovic...do you really think he would take us to
the promise land? with the cap space that we have...if we signed big Al and Paul
it'll eat more than half of it...its like saying you want to have a fringe
Brahmabull- You might need to get yourself a fresh bowl of wheaties and stop
and smell the roses. I am excited to watch this young team grow. I am excited
to watch Dennis Lindsey continue this new aggressive management style. I just
hope we can hang onto him.
@BrahmabullI've read Jazz Source comments twice and he never
comes close to comparing current Jazz players to Kevin Durrant. I don't
know how you take that leap. The comments talk about building through the draft,
like OKC did by acquiring high lottery picks like a Durrant. The Jazz have never
had the opportunity before to build through the draft because frankly, they were
always too good to draft that high. Players like Durrant were long gone when the
Jazz were picking. Over the last couple of years they've acquired the core
4 ( now core 5 with Burke) and these guys are all high lottery picks. We've
never been able to see how good they are however because we kept replaying the
Big Al and Millsap show. Well that show just got cancelled and now we can truly
see what these young kids can do. Next year we can probably add 1 or 2 other
high lottery picks. We won't be good this season, but I think the future is
finally looking better.
Jazz SourceDid you really just compare our young players to Kevin
Durant?? If so, you have lost it. We don't have Durant... we have Kanter,
Burks, Hayward, and Favors. Hardly a threat to any other team. And yes, they are
tanking. Trying to build through the draft is such a crap shoot. If they would
actually pay free agents to come here they would. Or they can keep praying that
the draft pans out - even though only a few picks panned out in the 40 years of
the franchise. Yeah, smart move.
I have never seen Lucas play, but the Jazz needed a veteran point guard to
mentor Burke if they weren't going to re-sign Tinsley or Watson. He's
a little shorter than Burke and lighter, too, so I imagine he's learned
some things over the years to get by obstacles presented by bigger guards.
Aggressive too, apparently, maybe like Watson a bit. Still hoping Stockton
invites Jazz guards up to his home court for some spirited ball.
@Real BassMaybe you could explain how playing multiple top young
draft picks is tanking? Was OKC tanking when the drafted and played Durrant?
They were horrible with him starting but they weren't tanking. They were
building.Fascinating the amnesia fans get when it suits their whiny
agenda. When you see our starting five sitting on the bench when they are fully
capable of playing then you can say they are tanking.The Spurs
literally made up injuries and sat The Admiral to tank and get the top pick
(Duncan). That is why the lottery was changed to prevent the motivation to tank.
You only get a 25% chance to get the top pick even with the worst record.Nice theory though. Not.Some fans may be gullible but those
with any basketball IQ at all should be able to see the Jazz are simply starting
a rebuild the only way they can while canceling the pathetic rerun of winning
40ish games and missing the playoffs. Many are sick of the endless
mediocrity and are thrilled they are getting serious about ending it.
So we all know, Lindsey has decided to tank the jazz before the preseason in
hopes that the ping pong balls bring him an admiral. I always thought that
losing on purpose was poor sportsmanship. These free agent picks would get any
other gm in the league fired but Utahans have a reputation for gullibility.
I don't know who George Lucas III is but good luck to his brother John..
And to the few boo-hoos I hope you enjoy your Crow this time next year..
If nothing else, these moves by the Jazz are bringing new life to these comment
boards. The last couple of years the old stick in the mud philosophy of the Jazz
made people lose interest I guess and there just weren't that many comments
on Jazz articles. Now everyone has an opinion one way or another and that keeps
things interesting for me. I appreciate reading all your posts, even those I
don't agree with.
We're making a move at Wiggins or Parker. This is awesome! Its going to be
a rough year but if we see some growth in Favors, Canter, Hayward and Burke and
get a top 5 pick, we could be looking good in a couple years. Next year's
draft is loaded. Next year we can bring in some good talent in free agency
because we'll clear out a bunch of cap space. We don't want to be the
top of the non playoff teams and ruin our chances of getting an awesome pick.
George Lucas III is the key to the future!
FYISome teams can build through free agency, some teams cant.The Jazz can't. They are a small market team and have trouble
attracting big names.What is their only other option? Build through
the draft.What have they been doing since the Deron Williams trade?
Building through the draft.Ask yourself this.... would
you rather be an 8th seed first round exit team every year? Or, would you
rather have a few down years in hope of having a few tremendous years.I understand hope is hope - but the Jazz are trying to put together a stellar
team through the draft while developing young talent. If this includes
"tanking" then tank away in my opinion!Lest we forget - no
one even thought about the Heat as a contender until Wade/Shaq and then
Lebron/Wade. They STUNK too. All good teams STINK every now and then.Jazz made the western conference finals and a few 2nd rounds a few years with
D-Will. I can see that happening again next year or the year after.
This has been the best off season in many years for the Jazz. If you don't
understand that than you are happy to be a fringe playoff team year in and year
out. If the Jazz don't ever play the young guys they will not know what
their value will be when they need to resign them. We do not want a Kirilenko
contract on the books again. The Jazz will be just fine this year. In order for
the Jazz to ever be a contender again we might need to take a step backward.
Jefferson and Millsap did nothing for us to be a contender. I will be
watching every game this year. I have never been more excited about the Jazz
potential as now.
The Last couple of years I have been in the habit of recording all Jazz games
and then watching them on delay only if I know the team had a chance to win or
had already won. I can clearly see the same philosophy this year would mean I
watch very few Jazz games. I think those core young guys might hold
there own on many occasions, but the second unit of Lucas, Rush, Biedrins,
Jefferson, Evans will spoil most any chance for victory. I hope I
can accept the changed mindset of just watching basketball without being to tied
so much to the outcome.
This signing makes the Jazz the clear favorites to win the NBA title next
season. Lucas was an all-star in the Chinese league in 2010.
Well, the last piece of the puzzle is in place. Now the Jazz can dominate from
every position. Kanter, Favors, Hayward, Burks, Burke... and Lucas III. What a
horrible offseason for the jazz. If tanking was the number one goal, congrats
Greg Miller, congrats.
He must have something the rest of us can't see. Hope he is third string.
Don't let Corbin know he is over thirty years old or he will start him and
give him 35 minutes..