Comments about ‘Utah Jazz: Why the Jazz traded for Andris Biedrins, Richard Jefferson and Brandon Rush’

Return to article »

Published: Monday, July 15 2013 8:55 a.m. MDT

Comments
  • Oldest first
  • Newest first
  • Most recommended
ImABeliever
Provo, UT

As a Golden State Warriors fan for many years, you can have Biedrins, Jefferson, and Rush.
Biedrins has a very high field goal percentage because he shoots extremely close shots or dunks and rebounds okay; but the huge problem with him is he a foul machine. He gets like 3 fouls in 3 minutes and can't shoot free throws to save his life. Jefferson cost the Warriors a playoff game with the Spurs because of his inconsistent lousy play. I will miss Brandon Rush even though he didn't play much; if and when healthy he is a solid basketball player.

rsrino
New Canaan, CT

"We don't want any hair to be pulled out on accident" ... Are you kidding me? Is there an editor on board? How does a writer not know the you do things on purpose or BY accident. ON accident is not proper grammar.

Jody Genessy

Yes, rsrino, it was a joke. I wrote on accident by purpose to be funny.
Jody

Americanvet
Ivins, UT

@imabeliever

If you read the article, the Jazz don't particularly care how the former Warrior players play. There not coming here to make the team better. If any of them end up having a good season the Jazz have the flexibility to sign them next year. The thought though is these players just accomplished helping the Jazz meet minimum salary requirements for this year and next season they will be off the books so the Jazz have flexibility to start shaping the team for the long run.

oldasdirt
Grantsville, UT

I will feel more comfortable when the Jazz sign a vet point guard. With a rookie point running the offense, my concern is the our core four will not improve if Burke can not get them the ball. Or it turns into a dribbling exercise and him hogging the ball.

StocksOnTheRocks
Lehi, UT

Rebuilding - Rebuilding - Rebuilding 3-5 yrs. from now - Rebuilding! future game plan - Rebuilding

Greg isn't interested in winning! Greg's all about $$$

StocksOnTheRocks
Lehi, UT

Biedrins ?? --> somebody must be missing Greg Ostertag

earthquakejake
Logan, UT

I hope they write a follow up article titled "Why The Jazz Should Not Have Traded For Andris Biedrins, Richard Jefferson and Brandon Rush". I'll write it for free if they need me to.

rvalens2
Burley, ID

@Jody Genessy

I see the "Grammar Nazis" and the "I can write better articles." people are out in full force. Personally, I think you do a great job and always read your Jazz articles before any others.

I know it can't be easy putting out five or more sports pieces a week and then have every Tom, Dick and Harry criticize them.

Keep up the good work, there are many of us who appreciate what you do; it's just that we don't often write to tell you so.

HugMe
Logan, UT

People who do not like this trade must be content to see the Jazz barely miss the playoffs of get the 8th seed in the playoffs. This trade is all about the future. It is going to finally let Favors, Kanter, and Burks play, which many of us have wanted (seeing veterans continually get the majority of minutes over these guys was painful). It has given us an unprotected 2014 draft pick and an unprotected first round pick in 2017. We now have 2 first round picks in a 2014draft that is predicted to be the strongest draft in a long time. It has given us financial flexibility to play in the 2014 FA market, which is a strong FA class.

Kudos to Dennis Lindsey for having a long term vision. We very well could have a team challenging to get to the finals in the next few years instead of a team challenging to get the 8th seed in the playoffs.

Doug10
Roosevelt, UT

The Jazz core are young, unproven and last year were ineffective against playoff teams. They have been practicing this offseason so they will have the advantage over.....those who have not been practicing?

The Jazz admin were so posotive they were going to own the free agent class this yar as they had lots of money and it was going to propel them to the top free agents. "Bad Plan" as the top free agents did not even call Utah.

New plan for next year...repeat this years plan, Utah will have lots of money and the free agent and draft market will again avoid the Jazz like the plague.

Utah was in need of veteran shooters so they traded Foye for a distant second round pick. Sounds like the team cannot even keep its own veterans.

The Jazz look up and they are "rebuilding" but so are 25 other teams in the league, I am just guessing the Celtics and Lakers andMavs are going to be returning to the playoffs long before the Jazz, who have deep pockets and are salivating at the draft and free agent market next year"

Sneaky Jimmy
Bay Area, CA

This was a great trade and a bodes well for Jazz management. Looks like they have a plan, the ability and the blessing of ownership to make a serious run at the finals. Biedrens could be a solid big but he has lost his confidence because of his sorry free throw percentage. Maybe the Jazz can get him to re-invent himself. Rush could be solid. What ever you get from these guys is a huge bonus because the expectation is very low.

jbarr
North Ogden, UT

What most fans don't seem to realize is that many rebuilding projects don't work. We were spoiled with Malone and Stockton for too long. The Jazz have been trying to rebuild since they left. Williams and Boozer gave us some success, but not as much as Malone and Stockton. We tried again with Millsap, Jefferson & Williams with even less success. Now we are trying again with Kantor, Favors, Hayward & company hopefully with great success. Sometime you have to take some risk to get success. Other teams go through the same things. Look at the Lakers Kobe, Hayward, Nash Gasol try. That didn't work out to well. I like that the Jazz are willing to do what needs to be done to move on and try again. There will be some growing pains and this year will be both difficult (lack of wins) and exciting (development of young players). If those players develope as expected and we can add some good draft picks and free agents next year then I see a bright future for the Jazz.

Jazz Source
Alpine, UT

@Doug10

Jazz management did not intend to sign this seasons "top free agents" because outside of Chris Paul who of the bunch was going to fix this franchise?

Jefferson? Millsap? Dwight Drama Howard? Korver for $24 million? These guys are now all overpaid and have not taken their respective teams anywhere.

This was more of a case of what the Jazz wanted to do vs free agents not wanting to come.

The Jazz signed Randy Foye last season along with Mo Williams. Both of them were pursued by multiple teams last year yet they chose Utah. Fans have amnesia about those facts. They probably would and could have signed Foye again if Brandon Rush was not in the GS deal. Foye repeatedly said in the press he wanted to return.

The Jazz have young talent sitting and signing any of these freeagents just commits big money so your young talents and draft picks can sit? What a waste. You have to find out if these guys are any good before their extensions/deals happen before you overpay and get yourself in a Kirilenko like deal.

Plenty of losing coming but signing this years available free agents accomplishes nothing.

dhsalum
Saint George, UT

"..signing this years available free agents accomplishes nothing."

Jazz Source, I think that sums up this off-season. The Jazz would be in terrible shape if they had signed, say, Andrew Bynum, Monta Ellis and OJ Mayo. And that's about the level of free agents the Jazz could have signed. Maybe make the playoffs, but no flexibility for the future.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

Jazz apologists are in full-throated defense of the JAZZ plan(?).

What must be remembered is that the highly paid expertise, of the JAZZ coaches, scouts, consultants as well as ownership placed the JAZZ where they are today by their "crapshoot" style of coaching/advice/management.

Fans are told the draft is a "crapshoot".

Other teams handle the "crapshoot" draft and win.

Outside of "Stockton to Malone", why not the JAZZ?

dhsalum
Saint George, UT

I would concur that the Jazz have not a great job in the last 5 years of improving the team, but with little-to-no cap space that is very difficult. Dennis Lindsey, however, clearly has a plan, and its a much better option than KOC's bring everyone back and see what happens plan year after year.

Americanvet
Ivins, UT

@there you go again

The draft can be a crap shoot but the odds are definitely better when you draft high lottery picks. Historically the Jazz have not had high lottery picks because they owned one of the highest winning percentages in pro sports for a long time (not just NBA, but ALL sports). Over the last couple of years the Jazz have finally had the opportunity to gather some high lottery picks that the fans affectionately call the core 4 (now core 5 with Burke). This is the 1st time in the history of the franchise we have accumulated this many young, potentially great players (even Stockton and Malone were not lottery picks).

Management is doing the right thing by putting the franchise on these young guys shoulders so we can see how good they can become. It helps tremendously that we will have the cap space and more lottery picks next year to build with. If people can't get excited with what's going on they just need to move to some other hobby to occupy their time.

Brahmabull
sandy, ut

Because they wanted to be, by far, the worst team in the league. Well, mission accomplished.

Kakashi
Tokyo, Japan

@Brahmabull

i am curious on what ideas you have to make this team a championship team....do you really think this team would win a championship if they re-signed Big Al and Paul Millsap and added a PG or players like Andre Igoudala?...let's say...we got better...and we went to the playoffs...how long do you think that will last?...do you think with you could win a title with that?...that being said...what the Jazz are doing is relatively new...since the are giving the keys to the young guys...is it a bad idea? No...because this gives them time to assess how good this core really is...if they are not...we'll probably see changes...further more...teams like the Utah Jazz...could not compete with big market teams during free agency...we do not have a lot to offer...that's why smaller market teams try to build from the ground up...by getting a sure fire superstar at the draft...did we get that with burke? probably not...will we get that next year? who knows...but im willing to stick with it...since i love this team

to comment

DeseretNews.com encourages a civil dialogue among its readers. We welcome your thoughtful comments.
About comments