University of Utah student among 3 impaled in Pamplona, Spain
Unbelievable. Not what happened to Patrick; I'm referring to the vitriol
contained in these comments. Interesting to note that the most venomous comments
come from my fellow Utahans. Oh yes, we're really the nicest people on
Earth. It is precisely this attitude of convenient rectitude that
infuriates me about our state's culture. You mean, little people snidely
taking your shot at Patrick for no good reason... I guess you have nothing
better to do than scoff at others' pain and misfortune. I know for a fact
that if you met him in person, you would behave in a manner VERY different than
you have here. I shouldn't have read through the comments...
because now that I have, I have a clearer idea of what my "community-minded,
friendly, and concerned" neighbors say behind closed doors and think
underneath apparently supportive exteriors.I would have been
surprised to find posts like this on a pornographic YouTube channel. Amazing
what people will say when they're anonymous. On the Deseret News, no
less... Wow. I'm sending this and shutting down my account. I
won't further interact with hostile little minds of such dismal caliber.
Chris B, how many Y students are that stupid? Some (can you say Rock Canyon?).
You don't have to run with the bulls to experience life. Pretty sure that
is not on my bucket list. Experiencing life doesn't mean that you have to
be an idiot while doing it. I went and watched a debate in the U.S. Senate last
week. My ears didn't melt listening to Dick Durban. Thought Lamar
Alexander was entertaining.
This ritual always makes me ill when I read about it. I am not a huge animal
person, and I do hope these human victims recover, but the bulls are ultimately
the victims in the end. Killing and torturing animals for entertainment or
sport is ethically wrong on so many levels.
While it's too bad he got hurt, if I were his parent, I'd just leave
him there to recover on his own. Why spend all that money to go to Spain when
he wouldn't listen to them in the first place? Maybe he'll learn that
his parents actually know something and be a bit more humble next time. He
definitely flunked this class!
He's going to want a nice thick steak once he feels better.
An experience he'll never forget. Guy is pretty smart, despite all the
haters. He is getting some real life experiences and doing things that most in
Utah only dream about or see in movies. He was one of the unlucky ones. Probably
not a day to wear your school colors.Here's to a speedy
recovery so you can tell your kids and grand kids about it!
Wow--sure a lot of anger and hatred expressed here. I don't remember the
kid or his family asking for your permission or your sympathy. I despise the
whole spectacle of bull fighting, but c'mon people. Twenty years from now,
this kid will have a great cocktail hour story to tell. While, at the same
time--you can tell your grandkids how you used to sit around writing about how
stooopid some people are.
He'll have a great story to tell for the rest of his life. I hope it
isn't too short.
Unlike bYu students, at least he had the intestinal fortitude to give it a go.
You can't be afraid to take chances and try new things--experience the
world around us! Yes, the Y says the world is their campus, but again--how many
Y kids would have the guts to try something with this much history and tradition
I wouldn't listen to my mother when I was younger, and dang, my child
doesn't listen to me and her child doesn't listen to her. When will
we learn? When we go through all those hard knocks and figure it out. Hope he
will be OK and listen to his dad next time.
He was wearing the U of U colors. :) I'm sorry, I had to put that one in
Bad choices, bad outcomes. Pretty simple, huh?
On the other hand, at least he can say he was there! He did it!Life
is not a spectator sport...
Wishing Patrick a full recovery and best wishes to his family in dealing with
the medical expenses.
Quick, get him to the US so he can get the medical care he deserves, and we can
pay for it because it falls under a pre-condition.
You can fix stupid. I bet he never does this again.
Forrest Gump said it best, "Stupid is as stupid does." Remind me never
to hire this kid to design any building that I would own. Parents some times
ought to be listened to.
Next time, put on your bullet-proof vest. At least you'll have your vitals
protected. Apparent, you can do without a spleen, but most of the other stuff
I served my mission in Spain and have traveled there. I love the culture but
have no respect for matadors and silly people who think they are "brave"
to run in Pamplona. A bullfight is slow torture to the bull, and by the time
the matador is facing it the bull has long darts hanging from its back and
previous to that a guy on a horse stabs it with a lance between its shoulder
blades. It is amazing the bull can survive that. This tourist may laugh it off
and enjoy the publicity of his stupidity. Despite it all, I hope he has a full
recovery and becomes wiser and does not profit from his mistake.
You've heard of accidents, right? Well, some things aren't accidents,
you just know they're going to happen. I've taken to referring to
those as inevitables. Getting gored while running with the bulls in Pamplona is
If I was that young man I'd be ordering steak from a Pamplona restaurant!
I got gored by an Antzy Texas Longhorn cow. Going to move it into chute to
vaccinate it and dehorn it as tub area got too crowded came back toward me and I
did not make it out of way fast enough. Barely missed everything. Family
Doctor sent me to hospital there for a day. Staples and touching there hurt
worse than the actual goring.For running of the Bulls I would not do
that myself. I been in pen several times with bulls leave them alone they will
leave you alone. Be on lookout for them though. I know a bullfighter at
rodeos, Dangerous job glad they do that all rodeo to protect the cowboys.
Barrel man real interesting.
Poor kid. He had to of realized this was a possibility.
Real men of genius.
Representing the State of Utah in Pamplona. I'm proud of you. But listen
to mom and dad next time. They know best.
"The bulls that take part each morning are invariably killed by matadors in
evening bull fights, and their meat is served up in Pamplona's
restaurants."------------------Well, it's nice
to know they at least have a chance to exact some peremptory revenge on a
species whose intelligence is so often overwhelmed by their insensitivity
md said: "You can't fix stupid."article: "The
bulls that take part each morning are invariably killed by matadors in evening
bull fights."Unfortunately, you can't fix purpose-less,
wanton, gratuitous, senseless cruelty either.
I wonder if he got to see NY Jet coach Rex Ryan...
How long with it take Chris B to spin this as an anti-BYU story?The
young man may have a high Intelligence Quotient but I question his Wisdom
Quotient.Vernon Law once said that experience is the worst teacher; it
gives the test before teaching the lesson.Another once said that
experience is the best teacher because it does not allow dropouts.They were both right.
You can't fix stupid.
This horrible injury MUST be someone else's fault! Quick- find a lawyer
and help this brave young genius recover compensation for the negligence of
others.Common sense is an uncommon virtue.
With National Health Care, do I have to help pay the medical bills for
Bulls are actually not violent when they are treated properly. If they can move
away from you to escape, they will. It is when they have nowhere to go, that is
when they get violent as a last resort. These animals are tortured in a very
cowardly manner, so those who participate shouldn't be surprised when a
1,500 pound animal gets mad and fights back.
these are the kind of bulls that the rodeo clowns use for their show or
sometimes the word used is fight however, they are not hurt just toyed with.
These bulls are small, fast, and aggressive, If you are going to run down a
narrow street in front of them, what do you expect. Still, I hope he recovers.
Given that it's a big show in which the bulls will be slowly tortured and
gored to death, I have very little sympathy for the participants when the bull
gets one of them.
Nonsense has a price. At least he won't be setting around wondering what he
did on vacation.
I can bet you that as soon as he recovers, he'll say he wants to do it
again! At which point, by the way, we'll see if he's smart or
he's just full of bull...
what ? Bulls are just friendly cows aren't they?
Mama always said, 'Stupid is as stupid does.'
Nice relaxing vacation to Spain huh? Maybe next year he can go swimming in South
Africa with Great White Sharks during feeding hours. Stupid is as stupid does.
I love the following quote: "You cannot drink poison to satisfy your thirst
and not expect to get sick." KSL If one is going to run with the bulls, one
should expect he just might get hurt.
What a smart kid