ekuteLayton, UTThe fact that you say it does not make it a
fact. Or even a very defensible opinion. Last year, BYU had a winning season,
was competitive in all but one of their losses, and played in a bowl game. And
won! All that without an offense. Utah had... A victory over BYU.
Fulfilling much? Give you that comfortable satisfied feeling?I thought so.
Now draw a level line at the bottom, below any point that refers to
Utah...That's byu since LaVell left...With things as they are in happy
valley, there's no hope that there will be an incline in that line in the
ekuteLayton, UTygrad,"As for "embarking upon
another chapter", I'm not worried."U should be.
ekuteLayton, UTLet me draw a stick figure picture you can
understand. Place a point on a graph for Utah 2008. Clearly a high
water mark.Place another point on a graph for Utah 2010. I seem to
recall that Utah was ranked as high as 5, then ran into a buzz saw and limped
out of the season. Somewhat lower on the graph.Chart Utah 2011.
First year in the PAC whatever. Winning season, trashed BYU, but lost to the
worst college road team in college football at home. The beginning of Utah as
enigma.Finally, place a point for last year. First losing season,
no bowl game, only bright spot a victory over your rival, and you still
haven't played the big guns in your new conference.Connect the
dots.That my friend, is a program in DECLINE.For extra
credit (you need it), true or false: a victory over your rival can make an
otherwise disappointing, dismal season both satisfying and rewarding?
@ekutieWhen Utah even comes close to achieving what BYU has then we
will start talking declines... For 2013 all of the Preseason Books coming out
and showing Power Rankings have BYU rated 3o places higher... Marc Lawrence,
Libby, Phil Steele, etc...I think that on haverage they have Utah
anywhere rom 65 to 69 and BYU anywhere from #34 to #39... So tell us how are
those big Rival Number Recruits working out for you? LOL.
ygrad,Comprehension? Better recruits and more NFL prospects =
A program on the decline? lol.That alone makes it obvious that Utah is far
from on the decline.Again, I look at sos and head to head and see that
nobody in happy valley has room to criticize Big Brother on the Hill.
Comprende?As for "embarking upon another chapter", I'm
not worried.It's byu who needs to put up This Year or the future of
they're program will be in question.btw, if Utah was on the
decline, what does it say for byu, who is Owned by the Utes? lol.
ekuteLayton, UTYgrad,"You're there." tells
me that you agree as to byu's level....tells me there's no
real reading for comprehension there.So now I look at schedules and
head to head results to get a better feel as to how the 2 teams compare.......there's a lot of things to look at, and get different results.
Thus the original comment. Better recruits coming in. More NFL prospects
coming out. Program in a steady, measurable decline. Look at all
the measurements you want. Some you win, some you lose. End of the day, the
answer remains the same. Now we are about to embark upon another chapter. It
may well end up the same as last year, we won't know till we get there.
Ygrad,"You're there." tells me that you agree as to
byu's level.So now I look at schedules and head to head results
to get a better feel as to how the 2 teams compare....
Ek,Been a while since the Y's last losing season, last
"home for the holidays."Check your ticket again, my friend.
ygrad,Utah has yet to decline to WACish leveling point of byu. lol.
Don't you guys know, it's more important to pretend that Nick Saban
"tried" in 2008 and other BCS coaches measure how many kids make it to
the NFL. Unfortunately, BYU only has Super Bowl talent that has
passed through the field-house.
Ah, Chris, why do we even bother? But I'll try again. Higher
recruited players going in to the program. More NFL players coming out. Yet
Utah has been in steady decline since 2008.
to clarify as to who's comments I was referring.....the original poster,
ideally my post shows up right after his second comment.
@ChrisYou lost us at Hello....4 years ago!
I'd rather live in the present than whine about the past. BYU and Bronco
will have 2 players drafted pretty high this year, while Utah will be lucky to
have any at all. As stated the past and present just prove Bronco does a lot
more with a lot less...translation: I'm glad we got Bronco instead of
Whitt, but when he has more losing and underachieving we won't mind taking
him back as the DC or linebackers coach.
Those who lack objectivity in their argument by choosing a small sampling,
rather than an entire body of work are not only weak minded but terribly
insecure in their defense, unwittingly admitting that there is only a portion of
their argument that contains favorable relevance, the rest being undeniably
convicting to the contrary.
@PP,I get my numbers from reality.If you have different
numbers I'd love to hear them.If you think Bronco has 20 guys
he's recruited and had drafted please correct me.For that
matter, just give me one!LOL
This would be a risky signing. One more concussion and his career could (and
probably would) be over. It would be crazy to offer any guaranteed
I am never sure where CB gets his numbers and why he LOLs so much. He must just
be joing all the time.
@Chris BSo what are you saying, Kyle is an underachieving coach
and/or Bronco is better at coaching up his players?
Chris,Run along, the adults are taking.
And how many former BYU players have been to the Super Bowl...and actually won?
Collie's been there, Pitta, Young, Ring, etc.. LOL
Where are all the stories about all the recent BYU grads actually playing and
succeeding in the NFL?Oh wait...LOL!Number
of guys Kyle Whittingham has recruited and had drafted? Over 20.Number of
guys Nick Saban has recruited and had drafted? Over 20.Les Miles? Over
20Steve Spurrier? Over 20Gary Patterson? Over 20BYU's Bronco? 0.None.Not one.LOL!Go Utes!