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Published: Friday, July 12 2013 11:20 a.m. MDT

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Where are all the stories about all the recent BYU grads actually playing and succeeding in the NFL?

Oh wait...

LOL!

Number of guys Kyle Whittingham has recruited and had drafted? Over 20.
Number of guys Nick Saban has recruited and had drafted? Over 20.
Les Miles? Over 20
Steve Spurrier? Over 20
Gary Patterson? Over 20

BYU's Bronco? 0.

None.

Not one.

LOL!

Go Utes!

Pavalova
Surfers Paradise, AU

And how many former BYU players have been to the Super Bowl...and actually won? Collie's been there, Pitta, Young, Ring, etc.. LOL

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

Chris,
Run along, the adults are taking.

SoUtBoy25
Cedar City, UT

@Chris B

So what are you saying, Kyle is an underachieving coach and/or Bronco is better at coaching up his players?

PP
Eagle Mountain, UT

I am never sure where CB gets his numbers and why he LOLs so much. He must just be joing all the time.

FatMan86
West Jordan, UT

This would be a risky signing. One more concussion and his career could (and probably would) be over.

It would be crazy to offer any guaranteed money.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

@PP,

I get my numbers from reality.

If you have different numbers I'd love to hear them.

If you think Bronco has 20 guys he's recruited and had drafted please correct me.

For that matter, just give me one!

LOL

Ironhide
Salt Lake City, UT

Those who lack objectivity in their argument by choosing a small sampling, rather than an entire body of work are not only weak minded but terribly insecure in their defense, unwittingly admitting that there is only a portion of their argument that contains favorable relevance, the rest being undeniably convicting to the contrary.

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

I'd rather live in the present than whine about the past. BYU and Bronco will have 2 players drafted pretty high this year, while Utah will be lucky to have any at all. As stated the past and present just prove Bronco does a lot more with a lot less...translation: I'm glad we got Bronco instead of Whitt, but when he has more losing and underachieving we won't mind taking him back as the DC or linebackers coach.

Bluto
Sandy, UT

@Chris

You lost us at Hello....
4 years ago!

Ironhide
Salt Lake City, UT

to clarify as to who's comments I was referring.....the original poster, ideally my post shows up right after his second comment.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

Ah, Chris, why do we even bother? But I'll try again.

Higher recruited players going in to the program. More NFL players coming out. Yet Utah has been in steady decline since 2008.

Pavalova
Surfers Paradise, AU

Don't you guys know, it's more important to pretend that Nick Saban "tried" in 2008 and other BCS coaches measure how many kids make it to the NFL.

Unfortunately, BYU only has Super Bowl talent that has passed through the field-house.

ekute
Layton, UT

ygrad,

Utah has yet to decline to WACish leveling point of byu. lol.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

Ek,

Been a while since the Y's last losing season, last "home for the holidays."

Check your ticket again, my friend. Your there.

ekute
Layton, UT

Ygrad,

"You're there." tells me that you agree as to byu's level.

So now I look at schedules and head to head results to get a better feel as to how the 2 teams compare....

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

ekute
Layton, UT
Ygrad,

"You're there." tells me that you agree as to byu's level.

...tells me there's no real reading for comprehension there.

So now I look at schedules and head to head results to get a better feel as to how the 2 teams compare....

...there's a lot of things to look at, and get different results. Thus the original comment. Better recruits coming in. More NFL prospects coming out. Program in a steady, measurable decline.

Look at all the measurements you want. Some you win, some you lose. End of the day, the answer remains the same. Now we are about to embark upon another chapter. It may well end up the same as last year, we won't know till we get there.

ekute
Layton, UT

ygrad,

Comprehension?
Better recruits and more NFL prospects = A program on the decline? lol.
That alone makes it obvious that Utah is far from on the decline.
Again, I look at sos and head to head and see that nobody in happy valley has room to criticize Big Brother on the Hill. Comprende?

As for "embarking upon another chapter", I'm not worried.
It's byu who needs to put up This Year or the future of they're program will be in question.

btw, if Utah was on the decline, what does it say for byu, who is Owned by the Utes? lol.

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

@ekutie

When Utah even comes close to achieving what BYU has then we will start talking declines... For 2013 all of the Preseason Books coming out and showing Power Rankings have BYU rated 3o places higher... Marc Lawrence, Libby, Phil Steele, etc...

I think that on haverage they have Utah anywhere rom 65 to 69 and BYU anywhere from #34 to #39... So tell us how are those big Rival Number Recruits working out for you? LOL.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

ekute
Layton, UT

Let me draw a stick figure picture you can understand.

Place a point on a graph for Utah 2008. Clearly a high water mark.

Place another point on a graph for Utah 2010. I seem to recall that Utah was ranked as high as 5, then ran into a buzz saw and limped out of the season. Somewhat lower on the graph.

Chart Utah 2011. First year in the PAC whatever. Winning season, trashed BYU, but lost to the worst college road team in college football at home. The beginning of Utah as enigma.

Finally, place a point for last year. First losing season, no bowl game, only bright spot a victory over your rival, and you still haven't played the big guns in your new conference.

Connect the dots.

That my friend, is a program in DECLINE.

For extra credit (you need it), true or false: a victory over your rival can make an otherwise disappointing, dismal season both satisfying and rewarding?

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