FAtboy86: "until the Utes really start caring about things that are bigger
and far beyond BYU"So, you have firsthand knowledge of what the
Utah coaching staff and players "care" about? Interesting! Please
enlighten us with your inside information. This is something we would all like
to be entertained by!Love the trollers!! Cheap entertainment!Go Utes! Onward and Upward!!
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The Utes go 6-6 best case scenario. And their fan base should get used to these
types of seasons...
@Utes fan"All things considered, Utah is probably average at QB
in the PAC-12 right now."I think you're being a little too
kind there. Kyle is delusional if he thinks Wilson and Schulz, etc are
upper-echelon in the Pac12. Wilson wasn't very heavily
recruited at all outside of the Pac12. I think he only had one offer to a school
outside Pac12 country and that school was "football power" Iowa State.
Schulz didn't have any offers at all.I think Pac12 Fever was
close to spot on when he said:"Utah will lose to Stanford, Oregon,
UCLA, USC, Arizona, Oregon St and ASU. They won't be favored in any of
those games."All of those schools will be ranked at some point
during the season. With very slow linebackers and a small inexperienced DL, the
front 7 is in trouble this next season. This could be a very long season if
Wilson isn't ready to step up. With all the question marks on the OL, it
doesn't look good for him. The utes are in trouble and looking at 2
straight seasons without a bowl game, unless they count the BYU Bowl.
@Navel Lintare you saying that about Cox because Wynn checked in at
165lbs for the utes his freshman year? Wynn eventually bulked up and the
freshman Cox has a 20lb head start on Wynn so barring anything unplanned for
Wilson (like his winning the Heisman and leaving early for the NFL, etc), Cox
will have time to bulk up like Wynn did.
"Whittingham said the Utes might have two quarterbacks in the “upper
echelon” of the Pac-12 in projected starter Travis Wilson and Adam Schulz
"Ok, Brad, are you purposefully trying to make Kyle look like a
moron? He's the same guy you were making lame excuses for earlier in your
article about his botching the QB position to begin with and now you're
trying to play him up to be some type of "expert" at evaluating QB
talent? Isn't that the problem with why he thought Jordan Wynn was good
enough to get the utes through not one, but two successive Pac12 seasons?What...did you and Kyle go to school together at some point?
Rivals lists QB Brandon Cox at 6-2, 185-lbs. He may be a very talented signal
caller, but if he comes to Utah under 210-lbs, I don't think he'll be
seeing the field much, and Shulz will most likely check in at #2. I look
forward to see how he pans out, but an undersized QB is an injury-prone QB.
@SoonerUtePutting the series on hold still doesn't change the
prevailing Ute identity. There is still too much fixation with beating and/or
one upping BYU. I can't help but wonder how much better off
the Utes would be if they put the same energy into the pursuit of a Rose Bowl
berth that they put into their competitions on and off the field with BYU. Pac
12 wins and the Rose Bowl are way bigger things than beating BYU. Plus a team
that is truly focused on competing for PAC 12 titles year in and year out, would
likely beat BYU with minimal effort. Also that game wouldn't be the
season-defining thing that it is now.
"but until the Utes really start caring about things that are bigger and far
beyond BYU"They've put the series on hold, what else do you
want?When they speak of improving facilities, recruiting, and
coaching staff, its all about being able to better compete in the PAC 12. Fans
will still exchange digs at each other, but the U is correctly focused. Utah is
better now than they were in the MWC, but has a long way to go. TCU is also
struggling in the Big 12 as they adjust from being a mid-major. You
wouldn't say TCU's troubles are because "they haven't moved
on from BYU".
The article states that Utah is LOADED at the QB position. Having a lot of
QB's does not equate to having good quarterbacks. The real good ones opted
to go to other PAC 11+u schools. Utah got the left-overs.
Chris B,I appreciate the optimism and the "Mark it Down", however,
you are way of base on the 9-3 record. At best it end up either 5-7 or 4-8.
The PAC is tougher this year and they will most likely lose to BYU this year.
The article had a lot of fluffy stuff in it but mostly inaccurate. The
defense was not solid last year and should not be a whole lot better this year.
The QB situation might be better next year but this year will be a growing year
at QB. The running backs are also a weak area.
I agree that it will be interesting, but I still see Utah trailing way behind
those "prestigious" or even semi "prestigious" PAC 12 programs.
They will still get the blowout win over BYU in Sept, but until the Utes really
start caring about things that are bigger and far beyond BYU, mediocrity will be
the order of the day. It's time to move on from BYU and aspire to
Cougsndawgs, I heard from a couple players on Utah's team this spring that
they wouldn't at all be surprised if Cox ended up taking the starting job.
If I remember correctly, he was rated a 4 star prospect after his junior year
and was downgraded after his injury his senior season. That doesn't mean
much at this point, but I agree he has huge upside if he can stay off the injury
report. While I want the absolute best player to come out as the starter,
I'd also like some consistency, so this year will be an interesting one to
Looks like Schultz and Cox have some brains too...academic and presidential
scholarships, and cox was his class VP also. Sounds like some great kids to go
with their talent. I've seen Cox play, and I still think he's the
future QB for Utah when it all shakes out. I know Wilson was rated slightly
higher out of high school, but I think Cox has more upside. Looks like the utes
are getting very solid at QB where they've struggled recruiting in the
past. Good luck to these guys and the utes going forward.
I enjoyed the article. However, let's keep things in perspective.Travis Wilson will be a sophomore this year. Very few sophomore's are in
the upper-echelon of their conference. He was a highly recruited QB, and
therefore has a lot of potential. But, Travis still has to prove himself. Shulz has a great arm, but has yet to compete against a PAC-12 opponent.
He was a walk-on for a reason. However, I am glad the Utes have him, as I hope
he can be a capable backup QB.Cox seems injury prone, which is a
major concern with a dual-threat QB. I hope he pans out well. Conner
Manning has potential. He destroyed the stats and records in high school. He
certainly could become a great PAC-12 QB. But since he hasn't even
practiced with the Utes yet, we simply don't know.It feels that
Utah is loaded at QB, but these sentiments exist as a counter to the horrible QB
situation over the past few years.All things considered, Utah is
probably average at QB in the PAC-12 right now. However, it is good to know that
the potential for greatness is there.
Utah lost a lot of starters at the end of last year (10 if I remember right,
plus some others that had significant playing time) including Star, Moe Lee, and
Joe Kruger. The linebacker need a lot of work and the DBs are young. The
defensive line will be good, but will be a step back without Star. On offense
John White has moved on as have DeVonte Christopher and Reggie Dunn.Erickson will help offense, but he is a bit washed up like Norm Chow was. With
the improvements the other Pac-12 schools have made in coaching and with the
addition of Oregon and Stanford, I am worried about the ability for Utah to
compete. Don't get me wrong I hope they win the Pac-12 and go and win the
Rose Bowl, but the practical side of me doesn't see it happening. It looks
like a rebuilding year to me.
Rather than prognosticating a 9-3 or 3-9 season, I would like to thank the DN
& Rhett Wilkinson for helping us with current information concerning the
Utes.In comparison, the SL Trib is asleep at the wheel with
super-old articles, seemingly no fresh perspective on any of a variety of
possible topics concerning football in the state, and almost obscene lack of
energy concerning the upcoming college football season.Appears that
the current score is something like 28-0, DN over the Trib.Thx for
your efforts, DN Sports guys. Now that we're in the transition time from
Spring to Fall camps it helps alot to bridge some of us football junkies over
the drought, & I hope everyone out there appreciates your efforts on our
behalf!BCn Ya, DrUte
I like the depth, but I'm far from sold on Wilson. The QB position really
hurt Utah last year. At least there's a number of options at the position.
I agree with CO Ute. Shulz is unproven and was not a scholarship player out of
high school. Consequently, he is nowhere near the upper echelon. Wilson still
has much to prove.
"As a senior, Thomas passed for 849 yards and six touchdowns and rushed for
734 yards on just 92 carries, with 10 touchdowns. According to
larrybrownsports.com, the graduate of North Shore Senior High School (Galena
Park, Texas) has declared that he will be the best player his team’s BCS
conference has ever seen.“I’ll be the best QB ever to go
to Utah, and in the PAC-12. Don’t believe me just watch,” he wrote
from his Twitter account @Faitesdinspirer in February. Thomas was rated a
two-star recruit by Scout and a three-star player by Rivals."Now
there's one confident kid. He may very well be the answer to Utah's
qb situation. And as I said before in previous posts, I hope Utah will loose
only to the Cougars but tear up the competition in their conference.
Wouldn't that be wonderful! Good luck Utes! and Go Cougars!
Although I like the idea, this article title is, well, a joke.If you
analyze every PAC school, and look at current starters accomplishments and their
backups ranking nationally (Scout/Rivals)...Utah's QB roster is worst in
the PAC.Anyone can complete a 4 yd pass under the defense.Utah will lose to Stanford, Oregon, UCLA, USC, Arizona, Oregon St and ASU.
They won't be favored in any of those games.And BYU is a pick
em.Have fun Chris.
I root for and follow the Utes as much as anyone but to claim Wilson and Schulz
are in the 'upper echelon' of PAC 12 QBs is ridiculous. If Wilson
continues to progress he may have that status by the middle of the season but
that is a reach right now.Utah is deep at the QB position, unlike
previous years, but we need a break out season first that includes winning
conference games both at home and on the road. Hopefully a potentially good O
Line and some big talent at the receiver positions will translate into a much
improved offense this year.
@Chris BAt Oregon and at USC will be very difficult games. Road wins
against quality teams in the PAC-12 are hard to come by. And while Stanford
visits Rice-Eccles, its team looks to be very good again this year. If the Utes
split the four games you mentioned, it will be an accomplishment.But
it would not shock me to see them split those games and then lose a game to
someone they should not lose to (like Colorado or Washington State). And at
Arizona and Arizona State at home should be competitive games. 9-3 is possible,
of course, but seems a little optimistic.
Most schools(including byu and usu) have zero coaches that have undefeated
seasons and bcs bowl wins Some have oneWe have two I am pumped about the season and am positive Dennis Ericsson will put
our offense at least average in the pac12And with an average PAC 12
offense(which is impressive in itself) and an above average defense, we will be
in contention for the south title. Not saying for sure we win it, but will be in
contention Go utes!
We are not in a position to compete for a conference title this year. However I
think the offense will be good enough to win a bowl. Whether we get there or
not depends on the linebackers and how well the D as a whole can tackle. As for
special teams; well lets just hope we won't have to rely on them to win
Continued-I'm the most optimistic about the offensive line. If
they stay healthy and perform well, we may have a good season. But I could
easily see us not going bowling again this year with that grind of a schedule we
have. Extremely excited for football to start, but I'm going to be very
cautiously optimistic for a while. After all, we're still playing with a
lot of Mountain West guys. It's going to take three to five years of
recruiting to really compete, but we shall see. See you at the game August
Chris B Hold on there Chris. Where I appreciate your usual overly
optimistic attitude, there are several things I would disagree with. First off,
the coaching was not solid last year. Coach Whitt should have NEVER put BJ in as
OC that early, and with all the coaching changes since 2004, things have not
been solid at all, at least not consistently. The jury is still out on
Whittingham as to whether he is THE guy for the PAC 12. The
defense, IMO, was horrible last year. The linebackers especially were bad. I
think last years defense is one of the worst I've seen in a long time.
Makes me a bit nervous for this season.I love how much "depth" we
have a QB, but can anyone perform or step up to be a PAC 12 QB? We need Erickson
to stay for at least three seasons to help BJ out as much as possible, provided
that he is going to be the long term OC.
I think it will be a great season. The defense will be solid. It always is. The
coaching will be solid. It always is. The offense will be much
improved. I see a 9-3 record, with the 3 losses all coming against
prestigious PAC 12 teams Our seniors will finish their careers 7-1
against in state opponents. I also predict we go at least 2-2
against ucla, USC, Oregon, and Stanford 2013 will be the year we
"arrive" to the PAC 12 Mark it DownGo utes!