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Published: Friday, July 5 2013 7:40 p.m. MDT

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Oatmeal
Woods Cross, UT

"Holmoe said the series with Hawaii, which is led by former BYU assistant Norm Chow, is done for now."

That is a very awkward way to end the article.

Vladhagen
Salt Lake City, UT

I think that as long as Norm Chow is the coach at Hawaii BYU will never play them, at least if he can help it. I get the feeling that he is not too fond of BYU. He did sort of get shammed by BYU when he was a coach there. That is one fence that is not mended.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

Must be pretty sweet for the MWC, USU, and Hawaii to be dictating terms of scheduling to BYU...

Oh, and Utah too...

SportsFan
Orem, UT

Howard S.

Must be pretty sweet to live in such a delusional bubble.

One of the advantages of being Independent is that NOBODY dictates any scheduling terms to BYU. The Cougars are free to accept or reject any proposed scheduling arrangement, even one proposed by our partner, ESPN.

Contrast that to our little friends on the hill who are required to march in lock step with whatever the PAC dictates.

TrueBlue
Orem, UT

After getting destroyed 47-0 in Provo last season, it wasn't at all surprising to see Norm Chow cancel the series with BYU. The MWC championship game scheduling conflict simply gave Chow a convenient excuse. It's doubtful BYU will schedule another game with Hawaii as long as Chow is there.

Meanwhile, besides Utah State and Boise State, the MWC team I'd really like to see return to BYU's schedule is Air Force.

EdGrady
Idaho Falls, ID

Oh dear - no games with csu and wyoming - whatever will we do?

Aggie84
Idaho Falls, ID

I do think it is time, however, that the Y and Aggies play home and away vs the 2 for 1. Do the
Aggies need the Y as their main event anymore. I don't think so. Also, time for the Y to try a different color than the Aggies. Go back to your true blue sky blue.

let's roll
LEHI, UT

@Howard S

Who is dictated to when it comes to scheduling...

Isn't Utah the team who said they can't schedule OCC games in November because the PAC-12 has a rule against that. Then USC signs to play BYU in November. I guess only minor, partial share, members of the PAC-12 have to abide by that rule.

Looks like the PAC dictates to small powerless members regarding scheduling, while the Big Boys in the conference schedule whomever they want, whenever they want.

Fortunately for the Y, USC's trying to improve its SOS by scheduling OCC games like BYU to counteract the hit they take on their SOS by playing in the same division as Utah. USC's SOS is right around 100. Ouch.

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

I think most objective people who care about college football in Utah believe that the 3 Division I Schools should play each other each year... I support it even though hosting our little brother on the hill will hurt our SOS this year.

mindgames
Aurora, CO

Would still like to see the military academies (especially Air Force) to the schedule. They must be one of the Mountain West members that don't want to schedule BYU. Falcons...get over it.

Silent Lurker
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Jeff just which fences would those be? Colorado State? New Mexico? Air Force? Wyoming? TCU? or perhaps San Diego St? I guess the fence would be UNLV? Another gimme game to inflate the ego and pad the schedule/record for the cougars? Bosie St, and Utah St. were not members of the MWC until after the cougars left and we all know how coach Chow and Hawaii feel about BYU.

thebigsamoan
Richmond, VA

@ SportsFan,

Howard S.

"Must be pretty sweet to live in such a delusional bubble.

One of the advantages of being Independent is that NOBODY dictates any scheduling terms to BYU. The Cougars are free to accept or reject any proposed scheduling arrangement, even one proposed by our partner, ESPN.

Contrast that to our little friends on the hill who are required to march in lock step with whatever the PAC dictates."

Aaahhh, I wish it was like that my friend, but the reality is that at this point and time of our independent stage, we have to bend over and backward to accommodate the other schools schedule in order for them to play us. So Mr. Howard is right in that sense. I just don't like it that it gives him immense pleasure to see us struggle with that. But I'm sure things will change for the better in the future, at least I hope so!

Go Cougars! Good luck to Utes too!

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

@SportsFan

DId you read the article?

USU said no to November... The MWC and Hawaii said no to December... and of course Utah has just said no.

BYU is not in a strong schedule negotiating position with any conference member... that's why they settle for one and done...four for two... two for one.... and h/h/n scheduling deals.

ekute
Layton, UT

"to march in lock step with whatever the PAC dictates"

That's a silly spin on conference membership.
It was mentioned in a recent article that byu is still hoping to be included, if the PAC ever went to a 16-team super-conference.

I'll believe "some fences are mended" when byu schedules a game with Wy, CS, AF, NM or TCU.

Uncle Rico
Provo, UT

Re: SportsFan

Yeah they are dictated that they get home and away deals with USC, Stanford, and Oregon.

BYU has to do 2 for 1s to get teams like USC.

This not playing in a conference is so frustrating. It is like playing in a rec league. Games mean nothing. Still end up in the same bowl if 6-6 or 10-2

toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

Hey, Aggies84, when did you purchase rights to a color and how much did you pay for it? To whom did you pay the money? Any school can have any color they wish----get OVER it!

With respect to BYU propping up USU's attendance, I'd find your distorted view more believable if the Aggie faithful had filled the stadium a bit better for their last 4 home games, when they had the best team in the history of the school and their attendance was waaaaay low. Face it, their fans only pack the place for BYU or Utah. Too bad, too, because right now at least they are playing pretty good football. They're just missing "fans" by the thousands.

Hawaii was always a distraction when the Y went to Honolulu and the Warriors have never played anything close to a competitive game on the mainland. Probably that's because they have to play at a decent time and not subject the opponent to such awkward hours for the game. We don't need to play UH anymore. If Chow has a problem, it is his problem.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

@let's roll

Reflecting BYUs stature among the college football big boys and the PAC the USC deal is a two for one deal.

Utah has perpetual home and home schedule with USC.f

May BYU could schedule Utah on a two for one basis.

WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

SportsFan
Orem, UT
Howard S.

Must be pretty sweet to live in such a delusional bubble.

One of the advantages of being Independent is that NOBODY dictates any scheduling terms to BYU. The Cougars are free to accept or reject any proposed scheduling arrangement, even one proposed by our partner, ESPN.

Contrast that to our little friends on the hill who are required to march in lock step with whatever the PAC dictates.

___________

You are absolutely right. BYU does not dictate terms anymore. Because teams expect them to offer 50-1, 4-2, and 2-1 deals now.

Must be pretty sweet to live in such a delusional bubble.

Thidder
MAPLETON, UT

The last time I visited BYU Campus was 1964 playing in the High School State Championship basketball game in the old Smith Fieldhouse. After BYU colluded to keep USU from the WAC, I have refused to set foot on that hallowed ground. For twenty years working near the shadows of BYU, I now plan to return to Mecca for a visit. Since the Aggies have a viable conference, the past sins of BYU are now forgiven.

However, I will not attend a game at BYU as long as Holmoe insists on 2-1 with the Aggies in either football or basketball. Let it be written, let it be done.

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

I like independence better than being in the MWC, for everything except the bowl deal. However, I think there are better options.

1. My first choice would be an invite to Big12. I do think the Big12 will move to 12 teams at some point. I just don't know when. Louisville moving to the ACC greatly improves the chance that BYU will get one of the two invites.

2. My second choice would be to see BYU put together a deal with the MWC like Notre Dame has with the ACC. Move all sports to MWC, except football where we would play 5 games against MWC foes and align with their bowls.

3. Continue in WCC and football independence. While I love looking at the beautiful Pepperdine campus, I'd rather watch Tyler Haws and Kyle Collinsworth play UNLV or Colorado St. Zags are the only team I really like to see us compete against.

4. Last choice would be to move back to MWC. I like the great football schedule of independence more than the seeing all other sports move back to MWC.

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