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Published: Friday, July 5 2013 12:37 a.m. MDT

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TroyTown
Anaheim, CA

AZUTE1

It's pretty simple. It's nice for the Utes to have new training facilities, but USC, Stanford, Oregon, and other PAC schools are spending even more on their new and upgraded facilities, so what/when/why/how/where is Utah's incremental advantage?

BYU has had similar facilities for almost a decade, so there's not even an advantage there.

So unless you think your main competition is Colorado or WSU or Utah State, the Utes are at best, a step or two behind and destined to stay there.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@DN Subscriber 2

So, next time you get sick, turn on a football game, since that reflects the U of U's priorities.

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From what I could find $1.799 billion was U's estimated operating costs in 2012-2013 fiscal year (Source: Office of the Commissioner of Higher Education).

According to USA Today, the U's Athletic Program total expenses were $43.7 million, of which $10 million were from subsidies (including taxes, student fees, donations).

At this point even you can figure out what the U of U's priorities are.

Hatch
Sandy, UT

AZUTE....its sad but true. For details you can google the stuff. Search for a Doug Samuel's article on USC's new John Nckay Center which opened last year with the 70 million price tag. The Stanford number of 200 million may have included some stadium cost (so granted that may be an over reach) Oregon's 68 million is not an over reach at all.

I think Utah is taking a step in the right direction here but UTAH needs more help from their alumni to compete. ESPN ranks facilities annually. Before these new facilities, Utah ranked above Arizona, Oregon State, and Washington State. But Utah is still a long ways away from the likes of USC, Stanford and Oregon and alumni dollars is the key to catching up.

I wish Utah the best. Its good for BYU and the state when Utah does well and it's good for the UTEs and the state when BYU does well.

Bluto
Sandy, UT

A nice little facility for a lower tier Pac school.

However, Utah's facilities still lag far behind USC, Washington, ASU, Stanford, Oregon, Cal, Arizona, UCLA, Colorado and even BYU.

Unfortuantely, Utah is on a fools errand by not operating at a profit and they are now going into further debt, by bonding for facilities.

Trying to keep up with the "Real" football programs is a vicious circle.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

@troytown

It's honestly not clear to me what you stated within your comment which was intended to add value to what Hatch originally stated? Perhaps, you could clarify this point for me? Thanks!

@Hatch

You've listed essentially what's currently the top 3 football schools in our conference. Cool. mI'm equally uncertain what you expected UTAH to do in the interim? Not build it and hope that one day U Alumni maybe kicks in enough to match these 3, the 3 schools anybody would select as having the deepest pockets/greatest resources, in the first place. CAL/UW also just renovated their respective stadiums. With the responsibility to upgrade facilities in many other sports, as well as just barely entering into merely their 3rd year of conference membership, they're doing all that which is currently achievable!

Stanford recently rebuilt their archaic, outdated football stadium. Stanford's significant advantage over UTAH isn't primarily due to facilities. 1st, once in a lifetime Harbaugh passed through, which got the ball rolling. Right or wrong, it's tough for those qualified and granted entry to pass-up on having their future diploma w/"Stanford" plastered all over it!

[To Be Cont'd]

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

@Hatch

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UTAH receives full-share of conf rev beginning the year after next. They have received nice donations from those such as Alex Smith, but even if Alumni with deepest pockets got involved, still would pale by comparison to these 3. USC's facilities were so poor for so long, all they did was win NCs and maintain their annual-haul of 4-/5-Star recruits. USC's name, alone, does their selling for them, with ancient or w/brand spanking new facilities. UO began upward-surge at turn of century when Phil Knight opened his wallet to the extent it's currently open to today. Tough competing with Uncle Phil/Nike!

In summary, these 3 schools constitute an Apples-to-Oranges comparison and, realistically, mentioning them amounts to nothing more than merely stating the obvious, nothing more, IMO.

Your proposed solution to what you perceive to be a correctable problem, is to try harder to solicit Alumni. Personally, I don't know much regarding what they are/aren't already doing. Do you know much, yourself?

How about what your plan of action would look like in solving this perceived problem of yours for The UTAH Football Program? Thanks!

TroyTown
Anaheim, CA

AZUTE1

"It's honestly not clear to me what you stated within your comment which was intended to add value to what Hatch originally stated? Perhaps, you could clarify this point for me?"

Start with trying understand the term "incremental advantage".

Good luck.

ekute
Layton, UT

Since they're in and we're not...And since we can't beat them on the field...Let's pretend that they have revenue issues and bag on that. lol.

backpacn
Sandy, UT

ekute

In what? Over you head?

Being a perennial conference bottom dweller in every sport is nothing to brag about.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@Lifelong Republican

Does all of this money coming in mean my taxes can go down?

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Yes, by about 2 cents. Don't spend it all one thing.

ekute
Layton, UT

backpacn,

In a major conference (and you're not).

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

TroyTown

"AZUTE1

Start with trying understand the term 'incremental advantage'.

Good luck."

You didn't catch what I actually conveyed to you. Please reread what I posted. Thanks!

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

At backpacking

It's been two years, what a silly comment

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

ekute

"Since they're in and we're not...And since we can't beat them on the field...Let's pretend that they have revenue issues and bag on that. lol."

The all-time Classic has unequivocally become, in terms of a diversionary-tactic employed with undying focus, referencing 2011 CU or, even further distant, 2007 UNLV, as if what occurred within these 2 wholly unrelated games in some way magically erases 2-Star bywho's utter futility against us, head-to-head! LOL

Rockarolla
West Jordan, UT

great facility. The Utes need to win now. If they don't, expect a coaching change, an athletic director change. You can't let a facility like this go to waste. Same for BYU. Their facility is second to none (well maybe Oregon). Both teams need to get it together.

Wookie
Omaha, NE

No open house? Really? That is absolutely pathetic. As a fan, alumni and tax payer I (all Ute fans) should be able to tour in person this facility.

Go UTES!!

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

"You can't let a facility like this go to waste. Same for BYU. Their facility is second to none (well maybe Oregon). Both teams need to get it together."

I doubt BYU's facility would rank in the top half of any BCS conference, especially the SEC.

TheSportsAuthority
Arlington, VA

2fer

"I doubt BYU's facility would rank in the top half of any BCS conference, especially the SEC."

Which of course explains why numerous schools, including Arizona State, visited BYU's new facilities soon after they opened in 2004.

What's really doubtful is whether you have even the slightest clue how BYU's facilities compare to the facilities at most BCS schools.

Two For Flinching
Salt Lake City, UT

@ TheSportsAuthority

In fact I do have a clue. Last year Alabama bought a $10,000 treadmill just because they could. They essentially have no cap on the sports med budget and get what they want whenever they want it. This is true with most of the top teams in the country. BYU doesn't hold a candle to teams like Texas, tOSU, Oregon, etc.

Also, there are modalities that exist now that didn't exist or were not common ten years ago when BYU built its facility. For example Utah has aquatic therapy pools in the new facility with treadmills in the bottom that can be raised an lowered depending on far along rehab has progressed/severity of injury. These pools also have several cameras that allow the AT to observed the gait pattern and make sure the athlete is using proper form during whatever sort of rehab is taking place.

Chris A
Salt Lake , UT

AZUTE!

If it is so funny that Utah can't "keep pace" with those 3 schools, are you saying you are happy with mediocrity/maximum 4th place finishes?

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