Comments about ‘Dick Harmon: In making the USA team, Tyler Haws has done the state of Utah proud’

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Published: Thursday, July 4 2013 4:05 p.m. MDT

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gchris
rock springs, wy

@CougarNation#1

I think you kinda missed my point. Tyler Haws will be playing professional basketball somewhere and playing on the USA team is a logical step in that vocation. If Haws were to decline an invitation to play, it would likely hurt his chances going forward to get drafted by a professional team, whether in the US or Europe. Would he prefer not to play on Sunday? Undoubtedly. But I am contending that his job, at this point in his life is to play basketball and the team has chosen to play on Sunday. Some, like you, might also say that I will violate that particular commandment by watching him play. While I have no idea what Tyler's thought processes are, I would guess that declining the invitation would satisfy his desire to keep that particular commandment in it's strictest interpretation. I do not judge him. Neither should you.

Christy B
Salt Lake City, Utah

Sorry about my little sister's silly misstatement.

She was obviously wondering how great it would be to play in such beautiful places as Malibu, San Diego, Moraga, Santa Clara, and San Francisco, and still be able play for the US National team, in the NCAA tournament, and in the NBA.

AlottaBallatas
Centerville, UT

Congrats to Tyler, his family, the state of Utah and the BYU organization and staff. Another proud moment for the state of Utah. First Vranes and now Haws, two home grown products.

From a Ute fan, a great day for the state!

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

Where was Dick with all the "doing Utah proud" talk when Utah was invited to join one of the most prestigious conferences in the country?

Overwhelming pride must have rendered him speechless...

Tom in CA
Vallejo, CA

" ..... He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her ..... "

CougarNation#1 -

There was only one perfect man to ever live on the earth, and He was crucified. To answer your question - the short answer is:

There really is no black and white on this issue. gchis was right, it is a personal issue. Further, every individual has a different circumstance and must make personal choices based on those circumstances.

Some free advice:

Worry about your own circumstance.

Rikitikitavi
Cardston, Alberta

COUGARNATION.....why bring up the ridiculous topic??? Doctors work on Sunday. Firemen work on Sunday. Cops work on Sunday. LDS security work on Sunday. Pilots work on Sunday. Air traffic controllers work on Sunday. They all chose those professions. Condemn all you like. I own a restaurant. I have to work a bit on Sunday. Don't give me the line about "essential" professions. P-L-E-A-S-e do not judge! Let's all be better followers of Christ and not judge. These folks all chose professions requiring them to work on Sunday. Give it a rest already. Maybe I pump gas on Sunday cause some people have to drive on Sunday. I knew a Stake President whose son played on a University team with Sunday games and he even went to watch on occasion on Sunday. Get over it and let the Savior be the judge. The Savior knows his heart. You do not!

thebigsamoan
Richmond, VA

@CougarNation#1,

Two words my friend, "free agency". It's the greatest gift our Father has given us. We make our choices and then leave it up to the Lord for he alone knows us better than ourselves. I can guarantee to you that none of the Filipinos he brought into the church will care one way or another. Lets not get stressed out on the particulars of the law because it can get much more complicated than that. For example, do you watch sports on the Sabbath? Do you cook on the Sabbath; buy gas, go to the beach, eat out, etc, etc? Lets make and live our choices and fret not about what others choices are. Have a blessed day! God will settle all that in the end.

ballpark
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Not being from Utah it amazes me how much press a young college basketball player gets. From the time he was in high school it has been a state wide story. Is Utah really that hard up to find something to report on? I live in California....he would get one paragraph in a local paper that he made the team. Tia USA team does not represent the best college players....please! Maybe the best citizens who are good in basketball. Save your ink for when he actually leads BYU to a WCC championship or WCC tournament win. It won't happen so I guess you have to write stories like this.

Barnbug1
SPANISH FORK, UT

@ballpark
First of all, my condolences for living in California. And second, not being from Utah, don't worry about it. I'm sure you have got way more important things to worry about living in C A L I F O R N I A than following a newspaper in little old Utah.

Barnbug1
SPANISH FORK, UT

Just one more thing......because we don't have naked men on public benches, more gang activity than anywhere else in the world, and a state that is nearly bankrupt, we have time to report on a local kid who is doing well.

Barnbug1
SPANISH FORK, UT

@Howard S.
He was probably working on an article, but things have kind of gone downhill in a hurry. Remember, the article was on state pride, not embarrassment.

Barnbug1
SPANISH FORK, UT

Come on guys your turn. They axed my best one so I had to go to the bullpen. It's alright though, I got this. And "ballpark", you have got to make things a little tougher. Check your post again, if you sent it to the toddler board they may have messed up and sent it to the adult thread. Have a super day!

Chris from Rose Park
Hartford, CT

@Sports Are Great - I agree with CougarNation, you reached an incorrect conclusion. It does not sound like he is harping on Haws, anyone LDS related, or anything of the sort. He just posed a simple question that is thought provoking. Why don't you just take him at his word and go from there?

Everybody else that is critizing him and saying to not be judeful, just come on. Let a man ask a question, and kindly answer it with your opinion, rather than roast him alive for having an honest heart. Just because he asked the question does not mean he is trying to usurp God's juding responsibility.

Chris from Rose Park
Hartford, CT

@CougarNation - I too have wrestled with this question since my youth. I still don't have all the answers myself. I guess I have to ask myself, what does keeping it holy really mean? We definitely have strong guidelines (not working, shopping, serving, gospel study, etc). Those guidelines all push us to one end: to focus on our Father, our Savior, and the Spirit. If, in counsel with Them, one receives approval of one's activities, then I believe reconciliation of teachings and practice has taken place. The choice is personal, but the decision process should not be. The decision process should always include counsel with the Maker of the Law. The Godhead consists of three loving living Individuals that seek to counsel with us.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

@Barnbug1

yeah he was working on a article bitter claiming that BYU deserved the invite and not Utah...

Oh, and about embarrassment... the WCC... high school arenas... really...

Barnbug1
SPANISH FORK, UT

@Howard S.

I thought it was fairly obvious that I was referring to results, my bad, I'll type slower next time. As far as conference inclusion you and I both know that BYU's ability to get invited is based mostly on religion. As far as academics and athletics, BYU is well ahead of Utah in both. Utah wasn't on the top of the PAC's list, but it worked out and they got invited so great for Utah. I'm saying if that's all you got to hang your hat on you prove my point.

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

I think the "working on Sunday" issue in the LDS church is one of the great opportunities and blessings of having agency. While members of the church have been encouraged to "keep the Sabbath day holy," interpretation of that commandment has been left quite open. While we are encouraged to avoid working, shopping, and certain kinds of leisure on the Sabbath, the LDS church has now for a number of years used Steve Young as a spokesperson. While this seems contradictory I think it's awesome that individual members get to choose how they treat this sacred day. I am a huge Ty Haws fan, and a fan of BYU sports in general, and I'm happy when the standout players fulfill their dream of "going pro." Through hard work they've earned that privilege. That being said, my eldest son is named after Eli Herring, one of the few superstars who had the courage to say no.

Bluto
Sandy, UT

@Howie

Leave it to Howard to turn an article about BYU and Tyler Haws, making the U.S. National Team, into yet another False Bravado Rant, about the (inflated) value of the U's Pac-12 Patch.

BYU plays half of their games in a 20k seat arena, generally nearly packed.
BYU's attendance has been in the Top 10-20 Nationally, going on 40 years now..

The arenas in the WCC seat 3500-6000 fans and are bloated when BYU comes to town.
It's a great College Atmosphere in the WCC...Kinda Kool.
It's about the hoops...Man.

Get back to us Howie, when your Utes can outdraw Lond Peak High.
Empty arenas (see (Huntsman Center) are about as useful as Tattered Bowl Banners and a Conference Patch.

Let's see if your Utes can produce a winning season in Football, Basketball or Baseball, in the next decade, let alone a Conference Championship, in any sport.

Remember, Cameron Indoor only seats 9k and Duke seems to be doing just fine.
If only Utah had the program and fans of a Gonzaga, St. Mary's or BYU.

Again, Ute fans argue minutia, because they can't argue results pertaining to success.

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