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Published: Monday, July 8 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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From Ted's Head
Orem, UT

The broad brush approach to reducing the harmful effects of porn on society, marriage, families and individuals isn't very helpful due to it's lack of specificity. I'm in disagreement with the idea that everyone who views porn is an addict.

However, this article brings up some good points:

1) The sex that is depicted in these hardcore pictures and videos are not good examples of unselfish, loving sexual congress between a man and a woman. Those who mimic this type of sex are not going to find that it builds a good loving relationship.

2) These actors are paid to smile through the pain and discomfort. Getting paid to have sex with random men is not a normal decision for many women, much less on camera.

3) Training one's brain to be sexually excited via a computer monitor isn't going to help with a 3D person, especially when the lights are off. Photoshopped/edited images are hard for normal looking people to compete with.

Porn can be defeated one person at a time, once they make the decision to avoid it. Teaching people how and why to do so is what's most important. Better information = better results.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Sounds to me like repubs want more nanny government to monitor and regulate my life.

I have a better idea, why not let the free market decide?

As we learned with the gun debate new rules and regulations won't do anything. So why do repubs insist that they will with porn?

Stop repub nanny government from always looking over my shoulder! Get big government off our backs. We cannot afford this anymore. Where in the constitution does it specifically mention porn? Lets get back to the founding principles and values of this country. Give me freedom or give me death!

Get rid of these big government repubs!

SlopJ30
St Louis, MO

One of the un-asked questions here is "what is porn?" The D-News readership is -- let's face it -- decidedly on the Puritanical side. Is any depiction of sexuality on film considered porn? If not, where is the line drawn? When does it become harmful? I know many in my family equate pretty much any sex scene as porn.

I'm not saying I have the answers to these questions, but they are more worthy of discussion and require more thought than just stating "boy, porn sure is bad for society." Lots of things are harmful if consumed in large quantities.

Hamath
Omaha, NE

@ Real Maverick

This story is detailing problems associated with pornography not supposed solutions that you are implying are attached to this story.

Nuschler
SAN MARCOS, CA

@ Real Maverick

I must have missed the "repub nanny government" part of the story. Nice tangent though.

james d. morrison
Boise, CA

Slopj30, Here's an example of a show where it technically might not be considered porn because they aren't actually having sex but really is porn in what it portrays; Game of Thrones.

Midvaliean
MIDVALE, UT

This article has no balance in it. The author has an agenda and no other opinion will be inserted. Keep that in mind when reading this.
I don't care for this kind of one sided research. If this article were true than everyone who looked at porn would be raping women. Not the case, not even close.

george of the jungle
goshen, UT

I think the taxes on porn is going to increase a lot, to where no one can buy it. This is the same shame the tobacco went through. porn has more money. to fight

Civil
Salt Lake City, UT

If comments in this paper required facebook profiles, several porn addicts would be revealed to the world.

Random
Redlands, CA

Obviously, to me, the anecdotal evidence seen throughout the world hasn't come to the home of many other commenters. You've never held your friend's hand as she sobbed about finding her husband's stash of porn and realized suddenly why she never measure up. You've never had a friend tell you she needed a new computer because she sent a chair through the monitor after finding her husband's web history. You've never felt the pain, the heartache, as a friend wonders what she could have done differently to save her marriage, when there was really no chance, because she wouldn't do what he saw in movies. I've seen two divorces because of porn, and one almost divorce. The exes are left wondering what they could have done and the kids are broken-hearted.
The government doesn't have to be a nanny government on this, but society has to be better about not accepting porn and "everyone does it" as fact.

The Scientist
Provo, UT

Why such a preoccupation with porn in the DN and the LDS Church?

Tekakaromatagi
Dammam, Saudi Arabia

The porn industry is predatory capitalism. This is what we were warned about when Marx said capitalism will collapse because of its excesses. These are those excesses.

On the other end of the political spectrum, some were saying God would destroy us because of immorality. It looks like both were right.

@SlopJ30: "The D-News readership is -- let's face it -- decidedly on the Puritanical side." Actually, the D-News readership is -- let's face it -- on the liberal side and they object to women being objectified as sex toys for men.

Sneaky Jimmy
Bay Area, CA

The real danger with Porn or any other form of entertainment is when the viewer begins to take it seriously. I think watching "the bachelor" is a form of addiction and possibly dangerous as well. In reading some of the examples of how porn has ruined a marriage, I think that porn is only a symptom. If a guy is messed up then viewing porn is only one manifestation of that.

pumpkin
Huntington, Utah

after reading the comments: wow you have some really porn addicted males (I am assuming male) in your readership. Porn is sick for the soul no matter the rationalization.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

The latest in the 'porn is everywhere' series.

Logit
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I'm hoping there's a part of this series that addresses the equally damaging issue of EMOTIONAL PORNOGRAPHY. Think Lifetime channel movies, romance novels, romantic comedies from Hollywood. Think vampire books.

Physical pornography, like that described in this article, is easily identified. Porn bookstores are clearly marked; there are internet filters. But emotional pornography? It's equally damaging to relationships--but much, much more insidious.

It's a common on-line dating profile header: "Where's my prince charming?" And it's a common frustration behind the divorce statistics. This is the effect of emotional porn. Emotional porn sets the expectation that the *ideal* relationship is one that will satisfy my desire for constant attention, validate me as a worthwhile person, painlessly take care of all my material needs, give me an endless emotional thrill ride--and require very little responsibility or sacrifice in return.

Sound familiar? Emotional pornography fires-up the very same dopamine receptors as physical porn, is just as exploitative, is just as damaging, and sets just as many unrealistic relationship expectations. ...But emotional porn goes on right under our noses. We invite it into our home. We seek its messages while out on date-night.

bw00ds
Tucson, AZ

Some of the comments here are definite evidence of the nonchalance toward porn as a problem in society. I agree with a couple of the commenters, who I think correctly determined who exactly are making those kind of comments.

"The most-cited problems included meeting a new love interest (68 percent) and obsessive interest in pornographic sites (56 percent)."

I believe that much of the cited 68% is a direct result of the 56% percent.

One other aspect of the story that strikes me is that Lili Bee was living with her boyfriend. Well, what did she expect? What does shacking up, being unmarried mean? Not necessarily the woman, but in many cases, what kind of man would go into such (and suggest as such) a relationship? I shake my head in incredulity.

twelvestringsam
Orem, UT

The statistics are pretty clear. Pornography producers are making money off of those they are aggressively addicting. It is an addiction, and can be a destroyer of families. What can be done to help those who are addicted to Porn?

LA Mormon
West Valley, UT

The porn industry is protected by the 1st Amendment just like any other form of artistic expression. If women are hurt by porn maybe they should not get married to a man at all. Most men view porn. It is normal. All straight men are attracted to women and fantasize about them. That is how men are programmed. If a man tells a woman that he is not thinking about sex and that he does not sometimes fantasize about other women he is lying. All men do.

As far as this article goes, if women are being abused in the porn industry they need to file charges against the companies they work for. I think however that the women in porn are not being mistreated at all. They chose the profession and they agreed to whatever was asked of them on the set. Porn is a part of life and is becoming more acceptable. Anything can be addictive if you have too much of it, including an obsession of having more children than you can afford. That seems to be a more dangerous addiction than porn here in Utah.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

It's worth noting that the most sexually repressed societies (and states) have the most pornography problems.

The fact that this is ubiquitous in the country settled by Puritans simply demonstrates that Newton's 3rd law of motion is not just applicable to physics.

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