Drum and FeatherYou've captured perfectly what most of us
already knew as soon as the so-called "independent investigation" was
announced. That the investigation was nothing but a whitewash and cover-up and
that absolutely nothing of consequence would happen to Chris Hill regardless of
the findings. As long as the Utes are in the PAC, nobody on the hill cares how
their athletes are treated.
Chris Hill got us into the PAC 12. I don't care what he does or
doesn't do, I don't care about his morals or integrity, I don't
care about any of that stuff. All I care about is that we are in the PAC 12 and
BYU isn't. Edge Utah. Go Ute's!
Considering all the highly visible reports of abuse and inaction by college
administrators, especially dealing with the athletic department, top officials
at Utah should have acted quickly and decisively.It appears their
judgement was clouded by the thoughts of PAC 12 dollar signs floating around in
their heads.It's time for heads to roll there.
The fate of Dr. Hill is a decision for the U to make, not me.But I
hope in deciding that fate, the don't completely miss the point as Brad
Rock did.The only mistake Hill made was putting this in the hands of
an Associate AD? Really?After assigning that Associate AD to
monitor the issue, the school suspended and then released that Associate AD, in
part for failing to follow-up on his responsibilities. That was done long
before anyone looked into the swimming team issues (and that only because of
allegations out of Arizona).Where was Hill's follow-up once the
Associate AD was let go? Who owned the issue at that point? Hill made multiple
errors of judgment not just one as Brad Rock asserts. Hill had multiple
opportunities to manage this issue and he missed on them all.Without
the allegations out of Arizona that prodded the AD to finally focus on the swim
coach, that coach would likely still be employed at the U.One can
only hope that in deciding on Dr. Hill's fate, the administration at the U
took a closer look at the issue than Brad Rock did.
Chris Hill wasn't even interested enough to inquire from his asst. AD about
the nature of the "altercation", let alone get involved in any
disciplinary action.After the numerous complaints he'd received
from parents and athletes about the on-going problems of drunkeness abuse
occurring at swim practices, one would have thought that Chris would have been
concerned enough to at least ask about the "altercation".
Great to see someone from the local media speak out about this subject. Just a
wee bit too late.
@co ute"It isn't my decision but I am surprised the U did
not fire Dr. Hill for his error."I'm not sure if I'm
surprised about it or not. On the one hand I am because it seems like it is
serious enough to warrant it, but at the same time I'm not because chris
hill has done some good things at the university of utah and you would think he
deserves the benefit of the doubt at least once although to be honest he looked
the other way with majerus for a very long time so his "once" may have
already been used.Either way though it would appear that he got off
with nothing in the way of punishment and the "investigation" was a
definite joke. It seems that something more should have been done but it appears
nothing more will be done.
The never ending drama of 'Uteville'.These past three
years have been something to behold. Discounting the mighty social climb to
'big boy' school status of PAC10 inclusion, the subsequent lack of
athletic performance, blah, blah, blah... it is clear that the administration
and oversight at Utah has derailed.How much more is unknown? You
know there's got to be more.Time to clean house, it's
getting ridiculous to read the news and find more negative stories from the
hill, supposedly one of our leading institutions in the state. This is
embarrassing and wreaks of incompetence. Spare me the excuses of Mr.
Hill being busy. We're all busy, we all have jobs and when we don't do
them we're subject to dismissal. Code of conduct violations are serious
matters.Though much of the UteNation would beg you stay and heap
praises on you for the PAC invite, etc. the honorable thing would be to just
move on.Time to go Mr. Hill. Thanks for your Ute contributions.
Dr. Hill failed in doing what he was supposed to do.Joining the PAC
12 was too much of a distraction to adequately perform his duties as AD. Not
following up on an email from an Associate speaks volumes about his
priorities.Where does the buck stop?
I think there are some valid arguments on both sides of this issue. Hill
delegated a task to an Associate AD that wasn't properly handled. That
person was released (not thrown under the bus as other posters suggest). Hill
is also a long term employee and you can argue that he shouldn't have been
fired for this one issue but a reprimand was appropriate.That said,
I work for a major financial company with a worldwide presence. If I knew of an
employee that had violated the alcohol policy, I would be expected to ensure the
person was disciplined and attempt to help them get treatment. If I didn't
follow up with the manager directly over that employee, I probably would lose my
job. Dr. Hill should have covered this topic during reviews with the Assistant
AD regardless of having numerous athletic program to oversee. It isn't my
decision but I am surprised the U did not fire Dr. Hill for his error.
Chris Hill is an honorable man in a high profile job. We all have jobs where
responsibility gets delegated to others. Yes, the buck always comes back on
those at the top of the food chain but why do posters usually call for a
person's head on a silver platter? Have you never had a misstep in your
professional life? Jeez. A lot of haters out there.
Hill must go but the University will probably do nothing because athletics is
not about athletes anymore. It's about money grabbing and building
facilities.Utah and BYU were both established by the same person many
years ago using the same principles and with the same goals. Utah has strayed
from the founding principles and needs to return.
I agree with Rock. Hill screwed up, but we all do on occasion. He's paid a
price in lost reputation and prestige/mystique. He's done too many good
things at the U to be fired over one screw up. One thing bothers
me...if he was too busy/preoccupied to "see" this problem...what else is
he missing? I hope nothing.
@ 3grandslams - the term is "scapegoat" not "escape goat".
That bump-bump sound you just heard was the associate athletic director thrown
under the bus.
Joe Paterno lost everything because he "left doing the right thing up to
someone else".Hill should lose his job.
It's hard to imagine how fortunate Chris Hill is to have a job where he
gets all of the credit for everything that goes right, but bears absolutely no
responsibility for anything that goes wrong in his department.
I didn't know "associate" was another word for "escape
goat". I appreciate the support from U fans, but the colored glasses are
too much. Alcohol abuse, physical abuse, and it is clear they AD tried to keep
it quiet by giving the assignment to someone else. Stop with the "someone
elses fault" syndrome, the AD is an AD for a reason.
It seems that showing up to swim practice drunk (as repeatedly reported to Chris
Hill by athletes and parents) or getting into a drunken brawl with an assistant
coach while on a swim trip (as reported to Chris Hill by an Asst. AD) a clear
violation of Utah's Drug-Free Workplace policy?Yet, absolutely
NOTHING was ever done by Chris Hill to address the problem?
University of Utah Policy 5-113: Drug-Free WorkplaceIV Policy: A. It is University policy to maintain a drug-free workplace. It shall
be a violation of this policy for employees to engage in the unlawful
manufacture, distribution, dispensation, possession, and/or use of a controlled
substance or alcohol at University workplace, or while engaged in university
business off campus.B. Any person accepting employment with the
University agrees to abide by the terms of this policy and procedure.So, who was responsible for ensuring that University policies were followed by
employees of Utah's Athletic department?Obviously, a complete
lack of institutional control and a huge black eye to the school who's
first responsibility should be the safekeeping of the student athletes entrusted
to their care.
Mr hill clearly has been placed in a job beyond his ability. He needs to go.
Well put Mr. Rock...Thank You.Go Utes.
In most professions, simply showing up to work drunk ONE TIME is grounds for
immediate dismissal, yet Chris Hill's athletic department allowed a
frequently drunk coach to abuse his athletes for years and to physically assault
his assistant coach without so much as a verbal warning?Seriously,
fisticuffs between two coaches outside a bar during a school sanctioned swim
trip didn't even draw a reprimand from the AD?