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Sequestration silences 'sound of freedom' at Utah celebrations

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  • bbzebra Sandy, UT
    July 1, 2013 7:57 p.m.

    This is all window dressing. these fly-overs could be used as normal training sorties. All military pilots need a minimum number of hours to maintain their qualification. This whole thing is a PR move to show the US citizens that we are actually "cutting back" due to the sequestration. How about cutting back on the flying time of the Congress and President?

  • Chris from Rose Park Hartford, CT
    July 1, 2013 9:12 p.m.

    I love planes. I love fly-overs. However, it is nice to hear of these budget cuts.

  • Kralon HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA
    July 1, 2013 9:44 p.m.

    My favorite moment in the "Stadium of Fire" show, but it is not often the word frugal and government co-exist, so that brings me some joy!

  • DN Subscriber 2 SLC, UT
    July 1, 2013 9:59 p.m.

    I too love the flyovers. But, given the cutback in flight hours, our pilots really do need to make every second count towards mission essential skills, and flyovers just don't rank that high.

    Of course, patriotic flyovers rate a whole lot higher than meaningless visits to African countries that are really pseudo-vacations for our annointed leader and his family and friends. The money wasted on this trip alone would pay for a lot of mission essential flight hours, and better care in the VA hospitals for our wounded warriors.

    Meanwhile, in lieu of the flyover, let's spend the time to actually read verbatim the entire Declaration of Independence. Remind ourselves of they tyrannical usurpation of our rights which were being committed then, and the refusal of free men to allow this to continue.

  • Spoc Ogden, UT
    July 1, 2013 10:23 p.m.

    I am not sure these flyovers are of no value. Does marketing and recruiting begin in the mind of a 5 year old as he watches those majestic screaming lawn darts overhead, then wants to go to the air show at the base to see the F-22s and sit in the pilots seat of a C-17, and sets his goal on sitting in that pilot seat some day? I did. And so did my son.

    Even in a time of war, recruiting is crucial. In the meantime we will miss the sense of community with the Air Force, and national pride in what we contribute locally to peace through strength.

  • There You Go Again Saint George, UT
    July 1, 2013 11:34 p.m.

    All the states that voted for President Obama will have flyovers...

    I saw it on Drudge.

  • Elk Hair Caddis Sandy, UT
    July 2, 2013 12:09 a.m.

    During the presidential debates Obama told American voters that if he was elected there would not be sequestration. Another lie.

  • Iron Rod Salt Lake City, UT
    July 2, 2013 2:53 a.m.

    Every one seems to want some thing for nothing from the Federal government.

    Every little town wishes for a flyover for their local parade.

    Would it be unreal for the Stadium of Fire Committee to make a contribution to cover the cost of the fly overs?

  • tabuno Clearfield, UT
    July 2, 2013 4:24 a.m.

    Flying these jets are really expensive, most likely most spectators don't realize the true cost. It's about time that America's focus on lavish expensive, unproductive activities begin to be curtailed. The Government through its Congress is reflecting a role model that in the long run may be good for America's youth and begin to learn the responsibility and the value of money, not excess.

  • mohokat Ogden, UT
    July 2, 2013 6:38 a.m.

    Congress can find $30 billion to gift illegal law breakers citizenship. Obama can find $100 million to fly to Africa. No fly overs and white house tours. Go figure.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    July 2, 2013 7:03 a.m.

    During the presidential debates Obama told American voters that if he was elected there would not be sequestration IF Congress would work together to solve the budget problems. Blaming Obama entirely for sequestration is just another lie.

  • activ2004 Clearfield, UT
    July 2, 2013 7:53 a.m.

    We, collectively and individually should and must do all we can to insure these sounds of freedom protected by the US Constitution are 'never' silenced! This is the very essence of what freedom represents. Remember 9-11-2011 when there was no jet noise? It was, for me horrifically eerie.I felt like evil had finally conquered good. Now it looks like the sounds of freedom are going to be silenced as a result of weak city, state and national political and military leaders who are flagrantly disregarding their Oaths of Office. Totally disgraceful and unacceptable!

    I will contribute all I have to keep the sounds of freedom a part of a centuries old tradition. Please keep this legacy alive for the children, they have enough evil distracting them and discouraging them from achieving their dreams. Do it for the children, please.

  • LittleStream Carson City, NV
    July 2, 2013 8:04 a.m.

    Interesting that Congress has enough money to make sure their private planes fly. So sad that they would do this for July 4th.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    July 2, 2013 8:08 a.m.

    Mohokat, let's do some research. GW Bush is in Africa with Obama right now. Bush still has Secret Service protection. How many taxpayer dollars were spent to get him over there and keep him and Laura safe?

    Answer please.

    (Here's what the Washington Post had to say: "Presidential travel is expensive; the cost of operating Air Force One is about $180,000 per flight hour. President Clinton’s trip to Africa in 1998 cost about $42.8 million. President George W. Bush made two trips to Africa during his two terms, although cost estimates aren’t available for those visits."

    So much for transparency in the Bush years.

  • Rocky Mtn Lady Columbus, MS
    July 2, 2013 8:27 a.m.

    Sequestration is all well and good ....IF...the powers that be knew what it meant. Our "fearless" leader spending 100 million for he, his family and cronies to go to Africa; our Senate majority leader wants 100 million for Vegas tourism and our congressmen spend money on prostitutes. Meanwhile, our service men use outdated equipment, our school children cannot go inside the White House, and we cannot view a traditional symbol of our National Holiday.
    SAAAAAAD.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    July 2, 2013 8:32 a.m.

    Obama can spend $100 million in a week visiting Africa, so why does sequestration only affect everyone but him? What a disater!

  • Rocky Mtn Lady Columbus, MS
    July 2, 2013 8:40 a.m.

    Sequestration is all well and good IF our leaders knew what it meant. Our "fearless" leader spends 100 million for family trip, our Senate Majority leader wants 100 million for Vegas tourism and our congressmen spend money researching brothels. Meanwhile our service men go without proper equipment, our Veterans are given brush of, the White House is closed to school children, and we miss a traditional symbol of our National Holiday. SAAAAAAD

  • very concerned Sandy, UT
    July 2, 2013 8:59 a.m.

    It was sad to hear the flyovers aren't happening, but our grandparents and parents (those who are still left) could tell us a few things about cutting back in order to weather the storms of the depression and actually win World War II.

    As far as Sequestration, though it happened during the democratic *watch* (I'm a conservative), I haven't seen the dire consequences that were predicted. It is FAR better now to do some cutbacks in spending (or at least slow the growth) than to keep spending the way we are. Look at many nations, like Greece, Portugal, etc. We too would have riots in the streets if our spending bankrupts us. Hopefully, we will learn from sequestration.

    I'm a little afraid though that the spending with The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (aka, Obamacare) will make sequestration savings look like a pittance. Nevertheless, in hindsight, I think sequestration was a good move. The world did not end. We learned a lesson and we sent a message to our children and the rest of the world.

  • activ2004 Clearfield, UT
    July 2, 2013 9:20 a.m.

    "9-11-2001" (fat fingered it)

    Perhaps we would welcome Russian and Chinese military jets that 'America' paid for, flying over our Independence celebrations and parking their war ships and aircraft carriers that 'America' paid for in our harbors. 100's of billions of dollars in interest payments sent to these countries and we are going to argue about a few hundred million dollars it would cost to perpetuate the Independence legacy by allowing the sounds of freedom to echo off the majestic purple mountain majestic ranges, and fields of grain from sea to shining sea.

  • one old man Ogden, UT
    July 2, 2013 11:22 a.m.

    Wow, the hatred dripping from some of the uninformed (or perhaps informed only by hate radio) posts here is disgusting. It's frightening to think that some people are gullible enough to believe all the stories they hear blatting from their radios.

  • george of the jungle goshen, UT
    July 2, 2013 11:23 a.m.

    In your face. That is the only thing that is said. Loyalty isn't a commodity. Honor can't be bout, respect is earned.

  • lost in DC West Jordan, UT
    July 2, 2013 4:27 p.m.

    Besides its sound, what other freedoms has BO revoked?

    Guilty until proven innocent at TSA screenings
    Forced to buy something you may or may not want that does NOTHING to address the costs of healthcare
    Cannot park close to many buildings without special “green” cars
    Economic viabilities not free from sustained assault
    Freedom of conscience being desecrated
    Etc. ad inifnitum

    Old man
    Sequestration was BO’s idea. Scapegoating for him is just that, scapegoating. It IS his fault.

    Bush did not travel foreign NEARLY as much as BO has.

    And of course, there is NEVER any hate dripping from your comments, especially when you call those with whom you disagree “misinformed”

    Little stream,
    Which congressional planes are you talking about? I have seen ALL of our congressional delegation on the 6 pm Delta flight out of DC. You must be referring to queen nancy – she’s no longer speaker, is she still flying on private AF flights?

  • Big 'D' San Mateo, CA
    July 2, 2013 7:59 p.m.

    @ There You Go Again
    "All the states that voted for President Obama will have flyovers...I saw it on Drudge."

    You are absolutely right! I would have thought your statement was facetious, but I know from experience it is true. (Of course, I only have n=2 so far to judge.)

    I attended a soccer game on Saturday at Stanford Stadium-- LA Galaxy vs San Jose Quakes. It was AWESOME comeback by the Quakes, being a man down and yet scoring 2 goals in stoppage time to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat. Poor Donovan.

    Anyway, before the game, during the national anthem, we had a sweet flyover by 3 jets, each streaming a different color of smoke, one red, one white, one blue. There was a patriotic show at halftime, and fireworks after the game. A great celebration of sport and patriotism.

    At any rate, here in California, the flyovers definitely continue...

  • A Guy With A Brain Enid, OK
    July 2, 2013 8:22 p.m.

    @ one old man - Ogden, UT - "Wow, the hatred dripping from some of the uninformed (or perhaps informed only by hate radio) posts here is disgusting. It's frightening to think that some people are gullible enough to believe all the stories they hear blatting from their radios."

    So you poke us conservatives for believing what we hear on AM talk radio and yet ignore all that you liberals believe blaring 24/7 from CNN, MSNBC and 90% of the mainstream media outlets?

    Nope, no hypocrisy there....

    I'm active duty military and will tell you that cancelling military fly-overs on the 4th of July is hardly a drop in the bucket in the big financial scheme of things. Is it helpful? Sure, a little. But the accusations of hypocrisy by the right towards liberal federal officials, all the way up to the White House, are 100% valid. You simply can't say "Cancel YOUR event while I fly to Africa" (Africa??...what the heck is strategically important in AFRICA?!?!) and retain any semblance of integrity.

    Sorry, but the left is, once again, out in left field on this issue....

  • mtgrantlass Camden Wyoming, DE
    July 2, 2013 8:36 p.m.

    "It's about time that America's focus on lavish expensive, unproductive activities begin to be curtailed." - Ha! tell that to el presidente, who has not curtailed his lavish lifestyle one iota since day one! in fact, it's as though he invents ways to live lavishly - to throw it in our faces! It's all about getting the masses to do what their told by those who know better. You can't see this?!

  • morganh Orem, Utah
    July 2, 2013 9:21 p.m.

    @ One Old

    The sequester was Obama's idea. Congress went along with it hoping that Pres. Obama would be willing to work with Congress on coming up with a solution before it was to take effect. This is according to Bob Woodward the legendary reporter who exposed "Watergate" and also was granted an interview with the Obama administration who told him it was their idea. Obama said in 2008 he would reach across party lines and work with Congress. Apparently he hasn't kept his promise since he refuses to work with the Republican House unless it involves a tax on the rich who pay the majority of our taxes.

  • Elk Hair Caddis Sandy, UT
    July 3, 2013 12:09 a.m.

    One Old Man....WRONG...listen to the debate before you comment on it. Obama made no reference to congress he simply promised if he was elected there would be no sequestration...another Obama lie

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 3, 2013 3:12 p.m.

    @Big D

    "At any rate, here in California, the flyovers definitely continue..."

    I wonder if the difference is whether an owner of the event venue is willing to pay more for it to offset the gov't cuts.

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    July 3, 2013 9:11 p.m.

    Still enough money for the Obamas to take multi-million-dollar vacations around the globe, complete with all assistants and security detail.

  • JayTee Sandy, UT
    July 3, 2013 9:24 p.m.

    The problem with budgets is that every politician wants to keep HIS budget items, and we should be cutting EVERYWHERE . . . including in the White House. Hey folks, we have a nearly $17,000,000,000,000 official immediate Federal deficit that isn't going to evaporate spontaneously. We have to get dead serious about cutting spending and preventing cost increases, or we're all going to be facing economic doomsday. Bush didn't advocate any degree of spending cuts (just taxes), and the current administration wants to spend even more and raise taxes even further. We can't continue to live in an insane world and believe that somehow it will all work itself out.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 5, 2013 11:56 a.m.

    @JayTee
    "Still enough money for the Obamas to take multi-million-dollar vacations around the globe, complete with all assistants and security detail."

    The previous Chinese leader once visited 17 African nations in a 10 month span. Perhaps it's no coincidence that China exported 200 billion worth of products to Africa last year while the US exported half that since China's putting more effort into Africa than we have. Any economic deals that can be worked out would easily be worth much more than the cost of the trip.

    The DNs editorial staff can see the bigger picture on this matter in their editorial today on Africa, you see a partisan soundbite.