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Commentary: There's high expectations for Cody Hoffman and BYU's wide receivers

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  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    July 8, 2013 4:41 a.m.

    Riley could not throw a pass longer than 15 yards sick or healthy.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 5, 2013 8:50 a.m.

    let's roll--

    "Why does anyone pay any attention to Strength of Schedule?

    PAC-12 fans can't be too excited about these numbers.

    Oregon #113
    USC # 70

    If playing a PAC 12 conference schedule results in these SOS numbers, that doesn't say much for the PAC-12. Too bad these teams can't play themselves to improve their SOS. Imagine what USC's SOS would be if they didn't play ND OOC?"

    Nationally respected Phil Steele's '13 SOS--

    UTAH #12
    byu #49

    CU #7
    Stanford #8
    UCLA #21
    WAZZU #26
    ASU #31
    USC #35
    OSU #37
    ua #52 [OOC is byu-like with NAU, UNLV and UTSA!]
    UO #58
    usu #93

    nd #13
    UT #15
    UVA #27
    GT #41
    UNR #56
    WISC #69
    UH #86
    bsu #91
    usu #93
    MTSU #119

    WSU > ISU, which is arguably the absolute worst FCS program in history!

  • idaho cougar fan Twin Falls, ID
    July 2, 2013 9:12 a.m.

    Love all the comments from the Ute trolls. They should be a lot more worried about their own teams problems than with the Y's issues. It will only get worse Cougar fans! As the U continues to disappear from the college football scene, more trolls will come on to BYU articles and try to belittle the accomplishments of the alpha football program in the state.

    As for football, if BYU's o-line can come together I think we will have a 8-9 win year. The offense will get better as the year goes on and I think we might be able to spring an upset in November if the defense has filled in the holes left from graduation. Looking forward to some football. It can't come fast enough.

  • let's roll LEHI, UT
    July 1, 2013 8:22 p.m.

    Why does anyone pay any attention to Strength of Schedule?

    PAC-12 fans can't be too excited about these numbers.

    Oregon #113
    USC # 70

    If playing a PAC 12 conference schedule results in these SOS numbers, that doesn't say much for the PAC-12. Too bad these teams can't play themselves to improve their SOS. Imagine what USC's SOS would be if they didn't play ND OOC?

    Alabama #79

    So much for running through the gauntlet of the SEC.

    If Oregon runs the table with their #113 SOS does anyone doubt they'll be in the top 2 in the BCS standings and play in the BCS championship game? So much for the importance of SOS.

  • 1978 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 1, 2013 5:32 p.m.

    Interesting - By my count 6 out of the first 14 comments (almost half) on an article about BYU receivers come from the following Ute Trolls:

    Mildred in Fillmore, Ernest T. Bass, Howard S., Dr. Ute, AZUTE1 and Naval Vet.

    Let me repeat this article is about BYU RECEIVERS!! It is not even about the Quarterback situation, Bronco Mendenhall or Max Hall etc.

    These same people in the next breath will say how much Utah has moved past BYU because they are in the mighty PAC12. This is just hilarious!

  • MacNasty Rexburg, ID
    July 1, 2013 4:31 p.m.

    Re: Wookie @ 2:42 pm

    Thanks for the comments. I disagree with you a bit in that I believe Hoffman can go in the late 1st round and second round if he has another good year. Offensive skill positions look solid and the defense is shaping; we Cougs need to fill the position Fuga left.

    Where the battle to win for BYU will be the offensive line. If that group gels together right out of the gate, then we can have a very good season. However, proof will be in the pudding.

  • patriot Cedar Hills, UT
    July 1, 2013 2:49 p.m.

    the reason for the expectation this year is because the Y now has an Offensive Coordinator (again) and a QB that might just be able to throw the ball ..unlike last year with Nelson.

  • 54-10 Salt Lake City, UT
    July 1, 2013 2:46 p.m.

    Y Grad / Y Dad
    Richland, WA

    "Someone who both exaggerates and over simplifies, then repeats it over and over like a four year old who thinks he said something witty, just really isn't a pleasant person to have over."

    Right on.

    Just like an insurance salesman.

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    July 1, 2013 2:42 p.m.

    Truth of the matter is this. BYU has shown it can win games with a Riley as a QB. Their D is one of the best in the nation, so even if Hill doesn't pan out this year, they will still be tough. Hoffman is an amazing receiver. I don't think first or second round material, but this year could prove otherwise as he will line up against some better DBs. In the end, no one really knows how the U or the Y will do this year as injuries can change the dimensions of a team considerably. I wish Hoffman all the luck and health to prove his mettle this year. If Apo came alive this year the Y would be tough to beat no matter who is throwing the ball (including Riley).

    Go UTES!!

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    July 1, 2013 12:13 p.m.

    Ah, Howard, by schtick I mean comedy routine, same old song and dance, smoke and mirrors, deception by exaggeration and repitition.

    When I want truth fro the other side of the fence, I look for SpokaneUte and a few others who generally try to deal in objectivity and manners.

    You might consider yourself a guest on a cougar board and consider behaving yourself. Yes, I suppose I could ask Duckie and Sammyg to show the same consideration.

    It's a lot more fun to trade comments with someone who has asked thoughtful, if critical, questions. Someone who both exaggerates and over simplifies, then repeats it over and over like a four year old who thinks he said something witty, just really isn't a pleasant person to have over.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    July 1, 2013 12:05 p.m.

    Jim1027,
    I think the predictions for a 5-7 season are not at all realistic. My guess is a 3-9 season, if they are lucky. From the post here it seems the Utsies are getting nervous for a repeat of the ast 2 years. We won't even talk basketball as that will be far worse.

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    July 1, 2013 12:03 p.m.

    STuFOO,

    Thank you so much!!! You hit all the points I was thinking and very well!!! I am really looking forward to this season and hope for the best!!!

    Go Cougs!!!
    Go Utes!!!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    July 1, 2013 11:06 a.m.

    "WON84
    Re: "AZUTE1

    NV, you beat me to it! Utterly Hysterical!"

    WON84: "One Ute fan competing with another for status on a BYU comment board..."

    Now THAT is "UTTERLY HYSTERICAL"! Nicely done 84, haha!

  • STuFOO Korea, AE
    July 1, 2013 10:58 a.m.

    "If by schtick you mean truth"

    Interesting that your "truth" is filled with your opinion.

    Got your philosophy degree at the u did you?

    Truth is, everyone is unproven until they take the field.

    Truth is, every player can get better in the off season.

    Truth is, every team changes every year.

    Truth is, teams cannot control how their opponents are rated and what their W-L records will be.

    Truth is, u trolls calling BYU names doesn't define the team and vice versa.

    But on thing we all agree on is...

    Truth is, BYU wen bowling last year and was on TV for almost every game.

    Truth is, u didn't and weren't.

    Funny, I'd rather be a indyWacer 2 star religious school with no "athletes" BYU than a bottom dweller no respect utah everyday of the week, without fail, and without ever thinking about it.

    Not because of the football, but because of the fans. vet, chris, hedge, ute, and the lot, you make your team and the rest of the fans look bad.

    Move on, yes please.

  • BleedCougarBlue Enid, OK
    July 1, 2013 10:46 a.m.

    @ Howard S. - Taylorsville, UT - "BYU has one proven receiver, an unproven o-line, an unproven QB, and an o-line coach that has never coached at the D-1 level...

    What could possibly go wrong?"

    Hey, Howard, there's an article today on your beloved Salt Lake Tribune saying that bookies are betting that BYU will win 9 regular season games while Utah will win only 4. Apparently the "what can go wrong" future is going to come waaaaay more from YOU guys.

    Want to talk about that?....

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    July 1, 2013 10:28 a.m.

    "AZUTE1

    Mesa, AZ

    NV, you beat me to it! Utterly Hysterical!"

    One Ute fan competing with another for status on a BYU comment board...

  • morpunkt Glendora, CA
    July 1, 2013 9:49 a.m.

    My expectations are not placed on the receivers. My expectations will be placed on the new QB.

  • Jim1027 St. George, UT
    July 1, 2013 9:46 a.m.

    The Team Up North had a choice of being a big fish in a little pond or being a little fish in a big pond. They chose the little fish concept. Oddsmakers have said they'll have a 5-7 record this year and remain a bottom feeder.

    Knowing that they'll likely be a bottom feeder most years, would they make that same choice again?

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    July 1, 2013 9:40 a.m.

    December Sports Headlines---

    BYU making preparations to defend their top 25 ranking and seeking double digit wins in the KFH Bowl.

    USU won't rest on laurels as they prepare to go bowling after stellar 8-4 MW debut.

    Kyle Whittingham prepares holiday trip to Mexico with family to leave stresses of a 3-9 record and 11th place conference finish behind. Editors note: Utah DID play the #12 SOS so congratulations are in order for that!?

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    July 1, 2013 9:32 a.m.

    @Y Grad / Y Dad

    Schlick getting old?

    If by schtick you mean truth... it can be hard to take sometimes... but it never gets old.

  • TRUTH Salt Lake City, UT
    July 1, 2013 9:10 a.m.

    Wish BYU had a QB as good as Utah? Ole what's his name.....and the wide outs are so wide at the U, no one knows their names......Yes BYU could never live upto the hype of a Utah team that will once again own the cellar in the PAC12.

    Go Cougs, lets kick Utah to the bottom of the State where they belong.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    July 1, 2013 9:06 a.m.

    NV, you beat me to it! Utterly Hysterical!

    "However, if BYU is to succeed against its brutal 2013 schedule, it is going to have to live up to some high expectations."

    I suspect not seeing NMSU/Idaho, et al, constituting 50%+ of their schedule and reduced slightly just barely to the other side of 50%, it could sound the alarm bells within the 2-Star byu faithful, causing extreme panic to set in!

    Per Phil Steele, 2-Star byu's '13 SOS is just barely ranked inside the nation's top 50% at #49. Time for that collective, "Whew", folks!

    By comparison, he ranks UTAH's '13 SOS light years beyond, in fact as one of the nation's absolute toughest, hands-down, precisely at #12!

    While Brutal clearly applies to the latter, Brutal equally does NOT apply to the former!

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    July 1, 2013 8:35 a.m.

    "...if BYU is to succeed against its brutal 2013 schedule,..." -- Lafe Peavler

    Brutal schedule? It JUST BARELY cracked the Top-50. That could be described as a "solid" schedule, or the "most rigorous schedule in the history of Indy-WAC football", but not "brutal".

  • DrUte Woods Cross, UT
    July 1, 2013 7:58 a.m.

    Wow - storm clouds brewing - suggest BYU folks check out the manpower both Virginia & Texas will be bringing to BYU's first two games.

    Considering you're going to have to navigate those two games before you see the U, you may want to set aside the "kick your butt back to Salt Lake" trash talking & not look thru those first two teams. You might just be swiss cheese by then.

    Both teams have speed, size, and high rivals ratings on both sides of the ball. There's enough info on line and with Rivals Virginia & Rivals Texas to make the argument those boys are not going to be pushovers.

    Not projecting any outcomes, talk is cheap, but just sayin', you're very fortunate you have the bye week before playing the U on September 21st.

    You're going to need it.

  • MarkMAN West Columbia, TX
    July 1, 2013 7:57 a.m.

    I do hope that sometime early in the season that they come to understand that they do need to start and play a quarterback who can throw the deep ball. Boy it would be so nice to see the best wide-receiver talent, Ros Apo, BYU has ever had become the star he can and should be. If they should ever decide to really use the talent they have the headlines would should read, "Apo and BYU receivers ..."

    Mark

  • Cinci Man FT MITCHELL, KY
    July 1, 2013 7:44 a.m.

    Me, my son, and granddaughter love to shout A-Po, A-Po. So we are really excited to see if this is a return-to-greatness season for Russ. Go Cougars!

  • Black&Blue St George, Utah
    July 1, 2013 12:37 a.m.

    Howie,
    Come on dude,you spend way to much time and effort trying to paint the situation at BYU way worse than it is.

    One proven receiver? BYU returns all starters at WR and TE. Hoffman is the only one that has been consistent, but you can chalk that up to the playcalling of Doman. Slants, outs, and bubble screens don't do much for the passing game.

    An unproven O-Line? 3 starters are returning for 2013, which is just as many as your utes. Also, the bull rush for JC O-linemen is a good indication that the O-line is top priority to Anae.

    An unproven QB? Taysom's efforts in the Boise St. and USU games were phenomenal. Again, Doman's offense smothered most opportunity for Hill to really show his potential. But after watching Anae produce 5 straight top 25 offenses and 2 successful QB's while at BYU, I like Taysom's chances.

    Didn't your utes hire a 25yr old OC? Brian Johnson was 5 years old when Garret Tujague started coaching college football. He spent the last 6yrs as Head Coach at College of the Canyons. Not too worried about it.

    Thanks for your concern though.

  • mindgames Aurora, CO
    June 30, 2013 11:57 p.m.

    Oh Howard don't be an old fuddy-dud. Everything is unproven until the final gun sounds. Just sit back and enjoy the journey. See the article on Marc Wilson...totally unproven until he stepped onto the Colorado State sod and then 60 minutes later 7 touchdowns and suddenly proven.

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    June 30, 2013 11:47 p.m.

    Howard,

    Your schtick is getting as old as Mildred's and not nearly as funny, which unfortunately, is really saying something.

    Apo still has something to prove, as do the tight ends. Falsev is a proven commodity, Ridley has proven that he is promising. Jamaal Williams will also catch his fair share of passes again.

    No one disputes that the o-line is unproven, but that is still a big improvement over last year.

    Similar to Ridley, Hill is not unproven. The minimal game experience he had as a freshman was impressive.

    Every coach had his first game sometime, and obviously our coach's experience is a lot more impressive than a lot of coaches WITH D-1 experience, more impressive than many coaches with BCS experience.

    For example, who is Utah bringing back this year to coach the line? Last year's experience was certainly nothing to brag about.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    June 30, 2013 11:20 p.m.

    howie

    Don't worry, I'm sure the coaches know what they're doing but your concern is quite touching.

    Now on to my concerns in kind about Ute football...

    What could go wrong in Uteville?

    Fat Cats might not be able to accommodate your whole team for some 'cosmic' bowling late night in December.

    Having a season like last year with Stanford and Oregon added makes you want this season to be over before it starts doesn't it? It's going to be a long ol' strugglin' Ute season isn't it? You know it, I know it, everyone that knows anything about the Utes and the PAC10.2 knows it as well.

    And when BYU kicks your sorry rear ends back to SLC in September it's going to be even a longer sadder and dismal season for U.

    Excuse me while I smile and savor your Ute moments.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    June 30, 2013 10:47 p.m.

    Are you saying BYu only has one good receiver? Man are you wrong. We've been having top recruiting for years now and the receivers are awesome because of it.

  • BYU sports on TV in Missouri Lebanon, MO
    June 30, 2013 10:13 p.m.

    When you compare the quarterback stats for the past several years one of the most notable differeces is yards per attempt. I see this more as a quarterback issue than a receiver issue. We have some very good receivers. The longest completion Taysom Hill has thrown as a cougar is 28 yards. Hopefully that will change in a big way this year.

  • Howard S. Taylorsville, UT
    June 30, 2013 9:40 p.m.

    BYU has one proven receiver, an unproven o-line, an unproven QB, and an o-line coach that has never coached at the D-1 level...

    What could possibly go wrong?

  • Vladhagen Salt Lake City, UT
    June 30, 2013 9:20 p.m.

    I am in hopes that Friel can also step up and get some good catches this season.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    June 30, 2013 9:10 p.m.

    Led by Hoffman,the Cougars have one of the best receiver groups in the country. They will be thrown to by Taysom, one of the best QBs in the country.