The reason I like the aggies is they understand their place in collegiate
sports. They will never be invited to a power conference. They will never whiff
a rose bowl, sugar bowl, final four. Yet once every 20 years they will put
together something noticeable. They generally support Utah athletics
and recognize we are the premier university in the state. They are a
great regional program who once every decade will find a way to beat us.And I can't even say I am that mad when it happens, because the
other 9 years they are supportive little brothers. Go aggies!Go utes!
Unlike the Utes, USU will be in the top half of their new conference in football
and basketball from the get go. What Kristy fails to recognize is
the projection of the Aggies football program over the past four years. Last
year was not a fluke. USU has made steady progress on the field and has the
players to keep it going this year.Go Big Blue!!!
@Chris BYou are my hero man. Everything you said is 100% true. The
aggies will never see it though. This isn't big. The WAC 2.0 isn't a
big deal. Now moving from the now WAC 2.0 (formerly MWC) to the PAC12 is in
fact a big move. Nobody from Logan will see that. @Go Big BlueWhen you play the same teams you've always played in the same
conference you've always been in it's not that hard. And you
won't be the top of the WAC 2.0 because you have to play Bosie State again.
They are the top of the WAC 2.0. What you fail to realize is all that success
you had was due to one person. Gary Andersen and now he is gone to a better
school. Your success is over this year.
Strang08,I think you should reconsider your criteria for
"hero." Many Ute fans are embarrassed/annoyed by Chris B's
I just have to chuckle and shake my head at the arrogance of some of these usual
Utah fans who look down their noses at programs who they now think are below
them since they joined the mighty Pac. Their membership in that so called power
conference has made them elite in their own minds. The fact that they're
in a conference where they can realistically sniff a top tier bowl or even a NC
game is wonderful indeed don't get me wrong. I do want them to be wildly
successful and win their conference every year. But please, can't you just
at least wait until you actually accomplish something in your new conference
before you start pounding your chest and look down your nose on others? I mean,
what good does it do to continually to be eligible to get a sniff of the Rose
Bowl, NC, etc, if can't ever get to play in it? Must you be content by
just taking a whiff and not ever making it? Just wondering!Good to
see Utah State moving up in conference association! Go Cougars, USU
and the UTES too!!!
Someone's view of the Utes and USU is clearly distorted. USU is clearly a
university whose athletic programs are on the rise, especially football.
I'm not a Ute hater, but I'm afraid Utah will be in the bottom half of
the PAC most years. Just look at where football, M and W basketball and
baseball finished during the first two years in the PAC.Once every
20 years they will put together something noticeable.
Looking for better and greater things from Utah State, go Aggies!
The difference between the Utes and the Aggies is that the Utes already forgot
who they are and what made them special after they were given a place in the
PAC12 prematurely. The Aggies on the other hand know full well who they are and
that makes them dangerous. I expect USU with their experience and heart will
put them on top of the MWC and over Utah week one of the season on their way to
another t25 ranking and bowl game.
thebigsamoan,We're never content.If we make it to the
Rose Bowl, we want to win the Rose Bowl.If we win the Rose Bowl, an NC
would of been better.Yes, we are elite with our Pac12 membership.Other teams in the state and in other conferences around the west covet what
we have.byu seems content just to have a higher standard.Good
for them because that's all they'll ever have.Go Utes.
Please stop referring to Chris B as a Utah fan. He's just a pot-stirring
How many spectators does Romney hold? How many attend? Those are key stats for
the USU future. I wish them well.
I wish nothing but success for Utah State and I love the healthy rivalry and
mutual respect Utes and Aggies share.Fans like the one of the top of
this thread are an embarrassment.
ekute,Glad to know that bro! I fully expect you guys to not be
content with just being in your conference of champions. I want you guys to
tear up the Pac. every year and loose only to BYU if and when we play, which
unfortunately has not been happening lately much to my chagrin. Btw, don't
be fooled into believing that BYU doesn't aspire to the same goals the Utes
have of playing in a prestigious bowl every year or for the NC some day. Our
chances are just as real as yours only a little less realistic and much harder
to achieve due to reasons you're pounding your chests about now, especially
your being an AQ conference member. Let's let the future tell the story of
where you'll fit in instead of boasting and talking big of accomplishments
you haven't yet delivered. Don't just ride on the coattails of
others. Be the big dog yourself in your conference then you can blow your horn
all you want and no one will argue. Respect must be earned continually to be
relevant. May all Utah schools do that!!!
I will root for the Utes every week this season, after the first game.
@Steven S JarvisYES! Someone who gets it. I despise the
fact that a noticeable contingent of Ute fans think they are elite because they
are in an elite conference. Just because somebody invites someone else to a
party, doesn't mean the invitee actually belongs there.And
thank you for the kind words to us Aggies. I appreciate it greatly.
ekute - so you are "elite" because of the conference you are in????
What a hoot!!! Typical Ute mentality - celebrating the conference more than
their under-performing program!Just so you know - the elite programs
in the country EARN that status by WINNING. Keep telling yourself that you are
elite because you belong to the PAC12, but by so doing you continue to make
yourself look foolish in the eyes of anyone other than a Utah fan.I
would like to take a pool around the country and see who really thinks Utah is
Balan,Everybody in a major conference is elite.ND is the
only independent with elite status.Even BS in MWC is more elite than
Good luck Aggies on your well deserved move to the MWC.
Steven S JarvisThe difference between the Utes and the Aggies is
that the Utes already forgot who they are and what made them special after they
were given a place in the PAC12 prematurely. The Aggies on the other hand know
full well who they are and that makes them dangerous. I expect USU with their
experience and heart will put them on top of the MWC and over Utah week one of
the season on their way to another t25 ranking and bowl game."How does the saying read, "Ignorance is bliss"? While you're at,
please detail for us all precisely what you believe our transition into The
PAC-12 consists of and what similarities/differences you believe usu's
transition into The MWC shares with it?Thanks in advance!
"I despise the fact that a noticeable contingent of Ute fans think they are
elite because they are in an elite conference. Just because somebody invites
someone else to a party, doesn't mean the invitee actually belongs
there."Noticeable contingent?It's remarkable
what one decent season can do to an entire fanbase's collective
common-sense! It likely won't be too discernible in 2013, as much as it
will be in the next few years, but their self-delusion is so utterly rampant
that usu fans literally don't comprehend precisely what the full-impact of
Coach GA removing himself from the equation up there in Logan in actuality means
for usu's football program! You will in short time, bank on it!BTW, even playing against a triple-digit SOS, usu still couldn't manage
to go undefeated/BCS Bowling/WINNING....Beware where you go pointing your
collective finger at and ignorantly casting judgement!
The entire reason Utah State didn't end up in the same mess that Idaho and
New Mexico State did, is Craig Thompson's egotistical desire to blackmail
BYU back into the MWC. Why did he turn to Logan first nearly 3 years ago when
the BYU independence plan was coming to light?The fact that
can't be avoided is Utah State is the "poorest little stepsister"
of all the MWC schools and amplifies more than anything why BYU wanted to bail
on that league.Still further Utah State has state university
demography in enrollment and the future size of alumni bases working against it.
If Utah Valley University started a football program, they would have better
odds of turning such a project into a Boise State level success, something that
BYU without question uses to stop any efforts to have their program dropped when
the issue arises in discussions at the senior LDS Church leadership levels.
Chris B is entitled to his opinions but as indicated by other posters, he
doesn't speak for all U fan. I'm thrilled to see the Aggies move into
a better conference and to continue to upgrade their football program.
Hopefully they will have a successful first year but talk of another top 25
ranking and another bowl game is very premature at this point. If they finish
with 8 or more win in the regular season that will be a great story and get them
to a bowl game but they could easily start the season at 1-6 before the schedule
Neither usu or utah will ever be major contenders in their conference in
football, although usu will be near the top consistently in basketball. utah
will never be near the top consistently in any sport people actually care about.
I don't see the point on bagging on Utah State. The MWC lost Utah in 2011,
but added Boise St. That seems like a push. When it lost TCU the following
year, they were unable to replace them with a similarly dominant program, so
really, that was the only loss. Don't forget that despite the loss of the
2-time BCS bowl busting Frogs, the MWC is STILL the premier midmajor league out
there. And the addition of USU, FSU, and UNR were solid additions. The MWC
will be fine, and the Aggies will fit right in.Utah State had earned
my respect.Go Aggies!
Duckhunter, "utah will never be near the top consistently in any
sport people actually care about."Like rugby, soccer, and the
"It's remarkable what one decent season can do to an entire
fanbase's collective common-sense!... but their self-delusion is so utterly
rampant that usu fans literally don't comprehend precisely what the
full-impact of Coach GA removing himself from the equation up there in Logan in
actuality means for usu's football program!"I already
addressed this issue to you in another post. I know where USU has been, but I
also see where they can go. USU has the tools to succeed going forward now
because of Andersen. Yeah, he left us. But he left us in FAR better
shape than where we were five years ago. We have vastly improved facilities,
recruiting, and fundraising because of him. Andersen's system is fully in
place and Wells said he isn't going to try and fix what isn't
broken.And the Utes didn't fail when Urban Meyer left town. Why
can't a similar situation play out with the Aggies? Lastly,
that triple digit SOS you keep talking about is baloney. USU's SOS last
year, while not great, wasn't nearly as bad as you are trying to make it
I can't pinpoint which comment I love the most. These Aggies are so funny.
Weather it's the poor excuse for attacks on me or the delusion that they
are actually going to be successful without Andersen. Face the facts Aggies.
Not one person agrees with your views. All they have to do is go to a game and
watch how you fan's act.
Sambone and Samoan - Your comments are spot on. I only disagree with one
sentence. I believe BYU and Utah's chances of playing for the NC are
exactly the same. An undefeated regular season will be required for either team
to get into the new playoff. As long as BYU continues to put together a
schedule like they have in 2013, an undefeated season will get them to the new
playoffs just like it will for the Utes.One loss for either team
takes both teams out of the playoff picture. Teams like Alabama, Notre Dame and
Texas still have a shot with one loss, but not the Utes or Cougs.The
elitist comments are way off target. Being in the PAC means nothing (except
more money for the university) if U finish near the bottom in football, M and W
basketball and baseball. Most experts would tell you that the 2008 MWC Utes
were a more elite program than the 2012 PAC Utes.
Naval Vet:Wow...I think you have written the first post where I entirely
agree with you. Very classy words for a classy organization like USU. I wish the
Aggies all the best in their new home. The MWC is absolutely the best midmajor
conference, and past power rankings have shown that (sometimes even rated above
the ACC). With all their returning starters, there's no reason to believe
USU can't have another great season, and even compete for the MWC
championship (BSU, Fresno, and SDSU will be tough but USU has the horses to pull
off upsets). Good luck Aggies!
Finally, I stand by my statement regarding Coach GA's departure and its
long-term impact on usu's football program. Time will tell its entire
story, although, IMO, 2013 will be a step-back for usu, just not the precipitous
one I predict results going forward.
Naval Vet, Cougsndawgs, and CougFaninTX: all classy people. Thanks for the kind
words towards us Aggies. I'm stoked for the move to the MWC!
@CougFaninTXUSU is clearly a university whose athletic programs are
on the rise, especially football. I'm not a Ute hater, but I'm afraid
Utah will be in the bottom half of the PAC most years....Once every
20 years they will put together something noticeable.-----------But you have to admit once every 20 years in a "real" conference
is MUCH better than once every 30+ years as a mid-major (see 1984 in football
and "Ainge era" in basketball).
To Elite:Literally no one but a Ute troll would ever consider
calling any team that wins only .387 of their conference games "elite".
As a bare minimum a team has to consistently win over half of their conference
games and be bowl eligible.
MWC was a three team league: TCU, Utah, and BYU (in that order).Now
it's Boise, Utah State, Fresno/SDSU (in that order).Go Aggies!
@ elite:For someone who perhaps sees a bit too much red, the sports
Duckhunter referred to that people care about that Utah is obviously not
competitive with in their conference is both football and basketball. Since they
have finished near the bottom in both sports since joining, it's not even
@CougFanTxOne loss for either team takes both teams out of the
playoff picture. Teams like Alabama, Notre Dame and Texas still have a shot with
one loss, but not the Utes or Cougs.The elitist comments are way off
target. Being in the PAC means nothing (except more money for the university)-------------One loss Cougars will most likely playing in a
2-tier bowl game in December.BCS denies Cougars; BYU (12-1) headed to
Liberty -- Dec. 4 2001One loss PAC-12 Utah team will most
likely play in playoff game. Why?Because since 1998 (BCS era) TEN
PAC-10-12 teams with one loss have finished #4. Thus, a one loss
PAC-12 team is most likely a playoff team. At the very least a one loss PAC-12
team is playing in the Rose Bowl.Those are not elitist comments,
sambonethegreat--"Yeah, he left us. But he left us in FAR better
shape than where we were five years ago. We have vastly improved facilities,
recruiting, and fundraising because of him. Andersen's system is fully in
place and Wells said he isn't going to try and fix what isn't
broken."To date, I agree 100%. However, now that he's
moved-on, the consummate recruiter/motivator/fundraiser suddenly must be
replaced. Here it becomes tricky, as he's virtually irreplaceable, if not
entirely so. This is, in part, what I was referencing below in projecting
usu's football program, going forward. Thoughts?"And the
Utes didn't fail when Urban Meyer left town. Why can't a similar
situation play out with the Aggies?"The obvious next step is
comparing MW/Coach KW at identical juncture in their respective careers.
sambonethegreat--"Lastly, that triple digit SOS you keep talking
about is baloney. USU's SOS last year, while not great, wasn't nearly
as bad as you are trying to make it sound."Sagarin ranked
usu's SOS #97. CBS Sports ranked usu's SOS #113 out of 124 total
teams ranked. Think week-in, week-our grind of a schedule=UTAH's, NOT
usu's!A perfect illustration of no weeks-off in-between tougher
games, see UTAH's 2013 mid-season 8-game stretch. I'm not
complaining, whatsoever, mind you, as I in fact completely welcome this
challenge! I only mention it, in order to show you that beating a bunch of
NMSUs/Idahos, in part as built-in breathers/guaranteed wins ensuring bowl
eligibility [see 2-Star byu's Indy-schedules as prime examples of
deliberately scheduling weeks-off with cupcakes/actual bye-weeks], which does in
fact boost one's chances of masking/mitigating non-BCS overall
talent/depth, and actually does in fact differ from a legitimate back-to-back
week-in, week-out grind of a schedule, big-time!I wouldn't
conceive of ever trading our situation in PAC-12 for 2-Star
cougfaninTX--"The elitist comments are way off target. Being in
the PAC means nothing (except more money for the university) if U finish near
the bottom in football, M and W basketball and baseball. Most experts would tell
you that the 2008 MWC Utes were a more elite program than the 2012 PAC
Utes.""Elite" has been adequately broken-down on here,
nothing to specifically add it.However, you state above how way off
target the Elitist comments are. On this point, I agree 100% and hope that
you'll begin leading the way by discontinuing your seemingly endless
references to it?Thanks in advance! Greatly appreciated!
Joining the MWC is easily a big postive for USU and I think the Aggies will do
just fine on the fields and courts... USU Football and Basketball
programs look entering the tougher competition in good shape. Utah entered the
Pac-12 with its Basketball program at a 100 year low and has had the misfortune
of a revolving door at Football's most important postion (QB).Other than their first game vs. the Utes in SLC I will be one of the many Utah
Alumni and fans wishing the Aggies success in the MWC.
@AZUTE1Did it ever occur to you why some teams falter that should do
well in college football? Injuries probably is the largest factor. When a team
plays bruisers up front they risk losing games they shouldn't. That is why
Utah wants to avoid certain teams. Even when they win the big game, they
usually lose two or three games because of the pounding the players take.Utah State is playing TWO years of great ball. Last year they won the
majority of the close games while the year before they couldn't quite get
there because of inexperience. I suppose you failed to notice what else was
going on in college football past your team getting spanked every week in the
PAC12. The main difference between the transitions is that while both Utah and
Utah State are relatively the same strength of program currently, Utah does not
have enough players to complete a season in the PAC12 while USU does for the
MWC. USU has the experience of winning against supposedly better
programs. USU has a chip on their shoulder and are willing to PROVE themselves.
I remember when that same thing could be said Utah.
What the article fails to mention is that USU is most often TWICE as efficient
as most other FBS programs. USU athletics routinely wins national awards for
"doing more with less."22+ Million in Logan is 44 million
quite anywhere else. They have a well run, streamlined system and, unlike other
schools I could mention, have very little "waste."As to the
Ute fans, and with all due respect, you really need to look to your own program
and its problems. USU will still be in the top half of their conference by a
wide margin this year, and may just give BSU a run for their money for both the
division and the conference title. BSU at Logan is a going to be a tough win for
the Broncos.I cheer for all schools in this state and, honestly,
cannot understand the attitude some are showing towards "little
brother." USU is a different program than it was in the past. Saying
anything else at this point is just sour grapes and makes you look irrational.
This is cool for USU to go into the Mt West. They've become a legitimate
program in a short time. I hope they'll keep it up with new coaching
change. Go Aggies!!!!Boise St. shouldn't be in the MWC but
should be in the PAC12. They should kick out Washington State and Colorado and
put in BSU and even BYU.
@AZUTE1I never said USU's SOS was great, but the CBS sports
list was a pre-season list, right? Teamrankings had USU's SOS at 77. And to
be totally fair, some of the teams on USU's schedule turned out to be
tougher than expected. LA Tech, San Jose State, and Toledo were all very solid
teams in 2012. Besides, SOS is factored into the final BCS rankings, and USU
came in at #22 in the BCS. Not too shabby.Also, as bad as Idaho and
NMSU are, Cal, Colorado, Washington State, and N. Colorado certainly aren't
any better. In fact, Colorado lost to Sacramento State last season. OUCH.And the WAC also finished as the top non-AQ conference last season
according to ESPN. Wells has a very experienced and well-rounded
staff at USU, much more so than when Gary Started in 2009. It may be premature
to say the Aggies will do something similar in 2013 as they did in 2012, but I
think it's equally premature to say the Aggies will go back to the CFB
cesspool considering where the program is now and what resources they have at
I am a proud graduate of the University of Utah and have attended many games
over the years. I have become disgusted at the arrogance and attitude of many of
the Ute fans out there who throw it in the face of others that the Utes are in
the PAC-12. So what my fellow Utes, get over yourselves.It was an exciting day
when it was announced that the Utes would join the PAC-12, but it means nothing
until the Utes show they belong there. The team doesn't seem to have the
arrogant attitude the fans have but there are some real idiot fans out there
that are an embarrassment to the rest of the Ute fans and some of them have
posted comments here today.I am excited for the Aggies and I say good for
you. I wish you the best and I hope you do well in the MWC.
Sambonethegreat--"I never said USU's SOS was great, but the
CBS sports list was a pre-season list, right?"CBS Sports
rankings are current/accurate. usu benefited from double-digit wins, per their
final ranking, regardless of opponent. However, stronger SOS/going undefeated
would've significantly enhanced their final-ranking, much more [See
2004/2008 UTAH]."Also, as bad as Idaho and NMSU are, Cal,
Colorado, Washington State, and N. Colorado certainly aren't any better. In
fact, Colorado lost to Sacramento State last season. OUCH."N. CO
was to us what SUU was to usu. Your point?To say PAC-12 teams with
BCS-level overall-talent aren't any better than 2 teams known nationally to
be College Football's unequivocal bottom of the bottom-feeders, ripe
w/virtually all 2-Star/NR recruits, is utterly surreal. 1 fluke loss to Sac St
in now way even remotely alters this fact. This attempt to equate these teams
with each other is mind-boggling, actually. Wow!If you were
attempting to equate usu's/UTAH's SOS, don't bother. Per
Sagarin, usu's at #97/UTAH's at #41. No comparison, whatsoever.[Cont'd]
sambonethegreat--[Cont'd]"And the WAC also
finished as the top non-AQ conference last season according to ESPN."However, it was so utterly bottom-heavy with the worst of the worst in
College Football. Even UTSA's final record deceived greatly, while playing
against the #125 SOS. Reference their wins/opponents for yourself."It may be premature to say the Aggies will do something similar in 2013
as they did in 2012, but I think it's equally premature to say the Aggies
will go back to the CFB cesspool considering where the program is now and what
resources they have at their disposal."Coach GA is unique, to
say the very least. Your implication it's not really a big deal to replace
his ability to motivate/recruit/fund-raise, among the nations best, is a sure
way to set yourself up to endure great disappointment when it all comes crashing
back down to reality.As for "cesspool", I have no idea where
you got this, but I haven't seen anybody on here state such a thing.
It'd be tough to return to such a depth, but equally tough for a usu to
sustain/repeat 2012, beyond.[Cont'd]
sambonethegreat--Finally, my intent is to see perspective
maintained. Fact is, usu's best team in history [yet still couldn't
manage to go undefeated even once, let alone twice] beat UTAH's worst team
in recent memory while needing OT/myriad key-injuries/ejection for UTAH, missed
FG to end game in regulation, unforced botched punt leading to gimme 7-PTS for
usu, questionable P.I. call during OT, healthy dose of Lady Luck, herself, etc.,
all the while playing at home, mind you, yet barely pulled it off by game's
end, their first such win over UTAH in 13 meetings.Sometimes teams
need quite a bit of Lady Luck, in order to win such a game. It happens and I
tipped my hat to usu afterward and I still tip my hat to usu today. Just keep
it in perspective and call it for precisely what it was, nothing more.
@AZUTE1My point in mentioning Colorado, Cal, and Wazzu was to show
that the Utes played some spectacularly bad opponents of their own last season.
Colorado was EASILY in the bottom five right there with Idaho and NMSU last
season. Going 1-11 and losing to an average FCS team is laughable!The bottom half of the WAC was terrible, but the fact that the conference
finished as the top non-AQ conference despite that fact shows how strong the top
half was.Of course it's a big deal replacing GA. But Wells has
been there right with him, helping build the program from the bottom up the past
few years. If anybody can carry on what Gary started, Wells is a darn good
candidate.You stated USU would soon go back to College
football's cesspool in this article: "USU football: Chuckie Keeton and
Kyler Fackrell named to College Football Performance Awards Watch Lists."I don't think the Aggies are world-beaters, but they are
contenders! And as for the Utah game, wouldn't it be much easier to just
admit the Utes got outplayed and lost for reasons other than some lady luck for
I think I fell asleep there for a bit while reading your excuses AZUTE. In
sports there is one winner and one loser. Pretty simple stuff. Utah lost. Utah
State won. Guess what....they play again this August. And guess what....one will
win and one will lose. While it may make you feel better, excuses don't
count. At all. But it is good to know that you're expert at making them. My
favorite is the "unforced botched punt." Who knew you could block a punt
I can't wait for 8/29! I will be at the game, and clearly I will be
rooting for the Utes - but I hope that will be the Aggie's only loss for
the year.Congratulations on the move up. I wish you all the best,
well deserved!! Go UtesGo Aggies
Chris B,Wow!!! Someboby is puffed up with pride!!! USU knows their
place? Remind us all again how Utah has done in their new big boy conference? I
would think that getting beat down two years in a row without having to play the
best teams would have humbled you at least a little bit but I was way wrong!!!
All I can say is Wow I am stunned!!!Go Cougs!!!Go Utes!!!
AZUTE,How many post does it take to make some very lame excuses for
your team losing to an in-state rival? Wow!!! It would be funny if I thought
your rant was tongue in cheeck but you believe every word!!!Go
I am Aggie fan and thrilled the Ags are in the MWC. Great fit. With that in
mind what is with all the negative comments on the Utes. Granted the last two
seasons have been disappointing but not total failure. The Utes B-ball team
finished strong with a good conference tourney showing. The Utes absolutely
made the right move joining the PAC-12. It is a great conference and they are
not going to kick anybody out or ever invite BYU. BYU is a conservative
religious school. They would never be a good fit in the same conference as
Cal-Berkley or U of Washington, bastions of liberalism. Get real
@NeilBYU is quite happy where it is at with independence. The animosity about the Utes has been brought on by arrogant posts demeaning
USU and BYU and then making it through the censors. Your post is a perfect
example of this problem. It begins nice, but then demeans BYU at the end. That
animosity hopefully will die down after this year when Utah drops BYU and USU
from the schedule. In my opinion, the BYU-Utah rivalry was never a healthy one
for the fans. Too many obsessed about it. Too many still obsess about it.I am a fan of all three teams having followed them since I was little.
USU has now been ran.ked twice during that time. This year will be the third.
What many of the U fans think is that last year was a fluke. They obviously
haven't been following USU. USU, the better team, will beat the Utes who
are rebuilding after graduating virtually every marquee player last year. They
will play for the MWC championship.
"Utah is 83-131-6 against the Pac-12 (.387)."And the number
is decreasing.For USU, their % will probably stay the same. Some
tougher teams, but also some easy teams. With their HC gone, USU will be back
to being average. I don't know why people think they have turned corner
after only one good season. Remember, Gary had two losing seasons in a very
weak conference before going 7-6 and then last year. Gary will really struggle
in WI. He never proved he was a great coach. One good season doesn't mean
you're a great coach.
@Striker Comment of the Decade my friend. The aggies will hate you
for it though. They still believe they can be unbelievable without Andersen.