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Published: Wednesday, June 26 2013 11:15 p.m. MDT

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Allen
Salt Lake valley, UT

One thing I've never understood is why Utahns, who are generally conservative and want to reduce government regulation, are so strongly for government regulation of marriage. I hope for the day when government will get out of the marriage business and focus on civil rights through social unions. Let marriage be regulated by each social group for its members and not by government.

Government = social unions
Social groups = marriage

zoar63
Mesa, AZ

@Scoundrel

"Practicing a Mormon lifestyle is... a choice... It is no different from the moral choices that others face."

You could also substitute the above sentence with any other groups; Jews Muslims Atheists, Conservatives. Liberals, add-infinitum

PLM
Kaysville, UT

Besides blindsiding the democratic process and the unconstitutional silencing of the voice of the majority, the court (sorry I can't capitalize it right now) has set in motion the persecution and prosecution of those upholding marriage; defined as a heterosexual union sanctified by partnership with God. A homosexual relationship can never achieve that end. An Australian attorney, not LDS, spoke about this political trainwreck as an attempt to halt temple work. The Church will never condone homosexual unions because God never has and this is His work. The hateful, demonic voices calling for legalization of practices that human history has proven to be destructive to all socieites condoning them, will go after the church in the courts to try to halt the legitimate work of creating eternal families. It is a temporary but painful state we are in.

Rikitikitavi
Cardston, Alberta

Two men or two women is really not a marriage in way. Only time will tell the full extent of havoc to be wreaked upon this once-great Christian nation with this giant (mis-step) giving yet more legitimacy to the sin of sodomy.

Contrarius
mid-state, TN

@Rikitikitavi --

"giving yet more legitimacy to the sin of sodomy."

The term "sodomy" actually refers to acts which are just as easily enjoyed by straight couples as by gay couples.

Are you going to start invalidating the marriages of straight people who enjoy these acts?

@PLM --

"the court...has set in motion the persecution and prosecution of those upholding marriage; defined as a heterosexual union sanctified by partnership with God."

Oh, wait a minute -- now you're going so far as to say that civil marriages aren't legitimate either??

Wow, the MILLIONS of people who have been married in civil ceremonies won't be too happy to hear that.

As for "persecuting and prosecuting" those in heterosexual marriages -- don't be ridiculous. The vast majority of marriages are, and will remain, heterosexual. Heterosexual marriage is a fine institution, and NOTHING about gay marriages actually threatens ANYONE'S straight marriage.

So have your marriage. Enjoy it. And let other people live their OWN lives as they see fit.

"The Church will never condone homosexual unions"

Actually, many churches already DO support gay marriage.

YOUR church is not the only one out there, you know.

PLM
Kaysville, UT

To: Contrarius

You have unfortunately made the error of quoting another's words out of context. I will not dishonor you by doing the same; in reference to your statement, "Oh, wait a minute -- now you're going so far as to say that civil marriages aren't legitimate either??" I said nothing of legitimacy, and according to the scriptures, God ordained the constitutional law of our land. So I assume, not speaking for Him, that He recognizes civil unions that are not in direct conflict with His commandments.

You stated, "As for "persecuting and prosecuting" those in heterosexual marriages -- don't be ridiculous.... and NOTHING about gay marriages actually threatens ANYONE'S straight marriage." The attorney I referenced was speaking about LDS marriages in the temple. Gays will eventually go after the LDS church for denying them access to sacred rites, as they attacked the Boy Scouts for denying them access to children.

"The Church will never condone homosexual unions," of course the church referred to in my previous sentence was the LDS Church.

You might find it helpful to take a class in rhetoric.

Contrarius
mid-state, TN

@PLM --

"You have unfortunately made the error of quoting another's words out of context."

I'm sorry that you think so.

"I said nothing of legitimacy"

You said -- and I quote -- that marriage is "defined as a heterosexual union sanctified by partnership with God".

This appears to mean that if a marriage has not been "sanctified by partnership with God", then it is not a legitimate marriage in your eyes.

Do you have a different interpretation for your statement?

"He recognizes civil unions that are not in direct conflict with His commandments. "

Good. Then he should have no trouble with civil gay marriages, either, since there is no commandment that reads "thou shalt not be homosexual".

"The attorney I referenced was speaking about LDS marriages in the temple."

Gays will "go after" LDS temple marriages at about the same time that Jews do.

"they attacked the Boy Scouts for denying them access to children. "

Careful, your animus is showing.

Since you mentioned scouting -- statistics from the Child Advocacy Center show that "only about 4 percent of same-sex abuse involves homosexual perpetrators". 



And btw, lesbian women have led girl scout troops for years with no problems.

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