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Published: Wednesday, June 26 2013 11:15 p.m. MDT

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West Jordan, UT

The 13 year old young lady missed one of the primary reasons for the ruling by Justice Kennedy, where he said DOMA "humiliates tens of thousands of children now being raised by same-sex couples. The law in question makes it even more difficult for the children to understand the integrity and closeness of their own family and its concord with other families in their community and in their daily lives"

Still waiting for one rational explanation of how someone's "Traditional Marriage" has been harmed by allowing a "Same-Sex" couple to get married. Still waiting, and waiting, and waiting...

American Fork, UT

My 'traditional' marriage is no less strong today than it was yesterday. It comes down to what my wife and I put into it.

Saint Louis, MO

"We have met the enemy and it is us". Justice Kennedy broke the 4-4 tie with a state's rights decision. If he came out against gay marriage, then it would have become a federal issue. This is all about "Tower of Babel" mentality. The people have become "gods unto themselves" with no respect for authority and the acceptance of a higher authority that even is a cornerstone belief of Alcoholics Anonymous. The idea is to destroy all religions from a Marxist viewpoint and to level the playing field. John Lennon in "Imagine" took a swipe at religion as being divisive. While in Ulster for the G-8 Conference, our president basically said the same thing. The Democratic Party has become Marxist inspired while the Republican Party is mired in capitalism. My answer is the formation of a third party with labor sans the entitled and redistribution of wealth in concert with common sense capitalists. Sadly, this is all about the destruction of capitalism. The "ant" who is working to put away for the winter is being attacked from both ends of the political spectrum.

salt lake, UT

So sad to see they have indoctrinated another generation into their lies and decite only to use her as a prop I think those are some "traditional" values we can do without pasing on.

Salt Lake valley, UT

@atl134 You're right, get government out of the marriage business and focus on civil unions.

Government = social unions
Social groups = marriage

midvale guy

Cor 4:3 "I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed, I do not even judge myself" Translation-God is the only one who should judge. While I am against this ruling, feel free to exercise any behaviour you would like. God will decide on judgement day what is right and wrong based on the true law, not the law of the US. I choose to investigate and know what my interpretation of those laws are and I will continue to live accordingly with His help.

Salt Lake City, UT

conservative and proud: "A lot of people are going to be very unhappy when they stand before our Savior."

Two things: First, yours is the voice of the GOP base today, and it's why the party is increasingly irrelevant and increasingly rejected by the rest of the world. It simply does not stand up to objective examination.

Second, your statement above calls to mind the words of Marcus Aurelius.

"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones."

Castle Valley, Utah

Good grief! Who DOESN'T support marriage for heterosexuals?

Washington, DC

"GodLoveTheWord" and "conservative and proud" -- your 'arguments' sound a bit like this: "MY MAGICAL SKY WIZARD WILL PUNISH YOU FOR BEING ACCEPTING OF OTHERS!". Get the heck over yourselves, and try to spend a few minutes of your life thinking objectively about the situation. Just because you have the ability to discriminate does not make your "opinion" ok; much in the same way as having an "opinion" about oppressing any other group of humans based on skin color, religion or any other metric is not ok. Acting out that dissent has already been correctly classified in the cases of racism as being a "hate crime".

Imagine for a moment that someone told you that your religion was a sin, and that they would fight you blindly to make what you practice a crime.

Robert Johnson
Sunland, CA

The opponents of marriage equality are desperately clinging to the last vestiges of government supported discrimination, but they will ultimately fail. The DOMA decision, Kennedy in particular, clearly demonstrated that there are 5 strong votes for marriage equality on the Supreme Court. Have any doubts? Why do you think that Scalia's dissent was so vitriolic? The re-election of President Obama has virtually denied the radical right-wing any attempt (at least in this generation) to garner the votes necessary to push forward their right-wing agenda. While the opponents of marriage equality live to see another day, their attempts to prevent the inevitable will be in vain. America will soon live up to her promise of "Liberty and Justice for all".

my two cents777

I am curious about the number of divorces in this judgmental group who so fear for the family unit simply because a same sex couple can , now, be legally married. How many of you are currently divorcees or have been divorced at one time? YOU would be a bigger danger to the family unit than any same sex couple. How many of you are languishing in a bad marriage and how does the marriage of a same sex couple impact your already deteriorating family? Give us a break. I am a heterosexual woman, married for 46 years to my high school sweetheart and I absolutely detest those who JUDGE same sex couples for loving one another. Heavenly Father created us ALL- are you calling HIM out as having made a mistake? I fear for YOUR eternity- not that of homosexuals- who God also created. Shame on you. JUDGE NOT.

Moab, UT

The "laws" of men don't trump God's laws or change His definition of marriage and family or moral behavior. The GBLT community choose the State as their "moral authority" over God. They prefer the sanction of the State over the blessings of God. That's their choice. They have chosen the straw man of "equality" over the eternal. One of these days, maybe they will figure out that you can't legislate faith in God. Both abortion and gay "marriage" are "legal" according to man's law, but neither is moral or right in God's eyes so nothing has really changed.

Mister J
Salt Lake City, UT

It's kind of funny (not in a comical way).

Those who moan about Mitt's 47% are really petulant when the Government doesn't "have their back"

Bountiful, UT

Unless I I am somehow mistaken, the Supreme Court rulings are not the defeat for conservatives that they and various religions think they are. Traditional marriage will not be affected.

If I had to guess one reason God makes different kinds of people is he wants to test us and strengthen our ability to love. if everybody was just like us it wouldn't be so much of a challenge or a growing experience.

Salt Lake City, UT

to GodLoveTheWord

It would appear you have an "acceptance" problem.

Inis Magrath
Fort Kent Mills, ME

I am one man who is married to one woman, my first and only wife for over 29 years. I am the very definition of "traditional marriage" and I can tell you this: Letting my LGBT fellow Americans enter into the obligations of marriage does my marriage no harm, and in fact strengthens my marriage by them demonstrating with their actions the value of committed monogamous lifelong marriage.

Hyrum, UT

@Albemar and Ernest Bass:

The reason you are still waiting, waiting and waiting is because any explanation that doesn't agree with your premise won't be considered rational by you or others with their own preconceived notions or what is right or wrong. Close-mindedness precludes the ability to understand others who feel differently. And granted, that sometimes goes both ways.

My two Cents777 just proved my point by saying he utterly detests those who don't agree with him. He doesn't detest their viewpoints. He said he detests them.

You've already indicated your strong feelings and hence your unwillingness to seriously consider any opposing viewpoints. Any explanation to you, no matter how well written and thought-out would simply be a waste of time. And in your heart, you already know that.

From my experience, most left-wing commenters are not interested in open discussion, but only in pushing their agenda on others and then arguing... and nothing more. Hence, the strong rebuttals I'll soon receive for saying even this much.

I now need to leave for work. No response to attacks will be forthcoming. I won't be back online until this evening. Sorry.


@Moabmom --

"The GBLT community choose the State as their "moral authority" over God."

Many religious Christians and Jews SUPPORT gay marriage. Many Christian and Jewish denominations are ALREADY happy to perform gay wedding ceremonies.

Their religious and moral beliefs are every bit as valid as yours.

Othello, WA

What a laugh to sit here and read comments from the flaming gay persons and their supporters, trying to justify gay marriage. I wired a light and two outlets in my home once, doesn't mean I'm an electrician, as much as I would like to be thought of as one. I've driven a big rig through a field and even down the road a few miles, doesn't mean I'm a certified, or qualified big rig operator, as much as I might want to be. I've read about and reviewed few law cases, and can even offer an opinion about them. Would love to argue them, but doesn't mean I'm a lawyer, even if I wanted to be(believe me I don't want to be that ashamed of myself). You can solicit the government to impose your version of marriage on the rest of us, but that doesn't really make it a "valid" marriage. You may think or feel that you have made yourself legitimate, but you really haven't!

Newbury Park, CA

It seems the legal team supporting Prop 8 were not the sharpest knives in the drawer. To let a proposition legally passed by a majority die on a technicality is a disgrace. The Court should have been required to decide the case on it's merits. The Court enabled a couple of elected officials to veto any proposition they don't like. The lawyers should have made the case about them. They should have asked for sanctions to compel them to do their constitutional duty. Even the day after it is the gay activists who are calling for a formal repeal of the law, since it is legally a part of the State Constitution.

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