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Published: Thursday, June 27 2013 1:13 p.m. MDT

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toosmartforyou
Farmington, UT

Chris B,

2 years, 3 years---whatever. I don't think you'll have 10 total conference victories in 3 years. So we'll see.

Why no longer do we hear about the Rose Bowl???

If you want to LOL, look at the banners on the parking lot side of Rice-Eccles Stadium. Talk about insecurity and the need to prove something---you could read them from Grantsville, they're so large. Oh, by the way, where's the one saying you are PAC 12 Champs? The stadium isn't large enough to mount it, I guess. LOL!! (We know we'll never see one that you are National Champs.)

I-am-I
South Jordan, UT

Let's be real. Neither of these programs (BYU and Utah) will ever be outstanding programs. They may have a few outstanding Seasons but I wouldn't count on either of them winning a National Championship. While Bronco says he's looking to win a national championship I think he's just saying what the cougar fans want to hear.

Hondo
Scottsdale, AZ

How many "Quest 4 Perfection" t-shirts is Bronco stroing in his garage?

fender
Washington, UT

Y Grad

For once you got it right. Unlike the school to the south, Utah doesn't reward mediocrity, and it won't be enough that K Whit beats BYU year after year.

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

Good luck to Bronco, I'm glad he and the Y got the contract out of the way. His final year of this contract will be the next year of the Holy War, which should be epic!

Sorry to all who have to endure Chris B - he gives us real Utah fans, and fans everywhere, a black eye.

Fetch hither the football!!

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

"That said, before Utah joined the PAC, and when they had the more comparable schedule with BYU in the MWC, Utah had a much better record against BCS opponents. In fact from 2000-2010, Utah beat more BCS teams than all other non BSC schools in the country. That includes BYU, TCU, Boise State and all others in this category."

And yet, they had the worse record against the same "WAC-ish" schedule, won fewer conference championships, etc.

Utah is an enigma.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

fender
Washington, UT

Only fans of the team up north would look at the total accomplishments of Bronco and the BYU football program, and pass it off as mediocre.

Especially while proclaiming their superiority BECAUSE of their, usually very close, victories over the alleged mediocre team.

For the record, I DO think K-Whit is an excellent coach, and I think it would be a shame if the excellent things he has accomplished get flushed down the toilet because of a slow start in the PAC.

BlueHusky
Mission Viejo, CA

Don't stop, Chrissy, Naval, and you other guys! I love your illogical smak talk and your snarky envy of everything BYU. Of course, I graduated from a Real PAC 10 team, Washington, whom Utah has never beaten. But we Huskies dropped our scheduled series with BYU because ... well ... we kept getting beaten. But with former BYU QB Sarkesian as our head coach, we're expecting more this year. And we look forward to the Utah game as a much-needed respite. Too bad I have such a hard time getting UW games on TV when they play bottom feeders. I have yet to see one of those victories.

So guys, keep the laughs coming. You're funny, you really are.

bpack88
LOGAN, UT

June national champions!!!

bpack88
LOGAN, UT

I think Chris B's comments are funny

CO Ute
PARKER, CO

When looking at the overall requirements to be the head ball coach in Provo, Bronco has done a pretty good job. In my opinion he is a good football coach despite some of his quirks. Interesting that on this article I don't see many posts from a lot of the fans that wanted him gone last year. 8 wins this year and most Y fans will be happy, 6 wins or less and it will be a different story.

Besides, if the Y got another coach, we couldn't use the Roscoe reference any more and that would be a sad day. If you have a sense of humor, you have to admit that error by ESPN was pretty funny.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

What's in the stars for Bronco mendenmidmajor?

More 2-star recruits of course.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Y Grad / Y Dad:

"And yet, they had the worse record against the same 'WAC-ish' schedule, won fewer conference championships, etc...Utah is an enigma."

Not so my frantic and emotional little brother. Utah never played a "WAC-ish" schedule since leaving...well...leaving the WAC after the '98 season! In fact, since leaving the WAC, Utah had only scheduled 11 games against them, (posting a .769 record). Conversely, YOU guys had scheduled 45.5% MORE WAC games (going a somewhat less successful .688)
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In the BCS-era (1998-present), Utah went .577 vs. BCS teams, and .682 vs. the WAC. Conversely, our Indy-WACey little brother went .465 vs. BCS teams, and .690 vs. the WAC. So essentially, Utah has had considerably more success vs. BCS teams, while little brother has a very slight edge when facing off vs. a WAC team. So it would appear that Utah is better off playing an elite BCS schedule, while our little brother was better off back in the WAC. And while I'm not sure what you all are going to do now that the WAC is dead, you all can be rest assured that the Pac-12 will thrive.

NevadaCoug
Overton, NV

NavalVet:

But which BCS teams did Utah play?
I don't remember them playing Oklahoma in Texas.
I don't remember them playing USC much before joining the PAC 12.

I'd be very interested in seeing some research about the quality of the BCS opponents BYU played compared to the quality of BCS opponents that Utah played. Maybe the research would back up your assertions that Utah was better against quality opponents. But I'm not going to buy it until you actually prove that the teams they played were really quality teams. Just because you belong to a certain conference doesn't make you better on the field.

One more note: I don't remember BYU ever getting shut out at home by the likes of...say...UNLV, either.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

NevadaCoug:

"...But which BCS teams did Utah play?...I don't remember them playing Oklahoma in Texas...I don't remember them playing USC much before joining the PAC 12."

Utah played Wash, Wash St, Ore, Ore St, Cal, USC, UCLA, Ariz, Ariz St, Colo, Pitt, Ga Tech, Iowa St, L'ville, Mich, Ala, Tx A&M, UNC, and Ind. And while we never played Okla in TX, we still beat plenty of BCS teams that finished with a similar 8-5 record or better.

"I'd be very interested in seeing some research about the quality of the BCS opponents BYU played compared to the quality of BCS opponents that Utah played. Maybe the research would back up your assertions that Utah was better against quality opponents."

The 30 BCS teams your big brother beat finished with a .449 record. The 20 teams the Indy-WACers beat finished with a .398 record. And since .449 > .398, you are now convinced that Utah's wins were against better quality opponents than the Indy-WACers'.

As for UNLV, Utah is .875 all-time against them. You guys are .833. And since .875 > .833, you guys have no room to talk.

mussingaround
Palo Alto, CA

NevadaCoug

The giant elephant in the room that Utah fans like navelvet conveniently choose to ignore is that if Utah's record against bcs/ranked teams was really as impressive as they pretend it to be, why did BYU finish in the Top 25 more often than the Utes?

Despite their spin about bowl wins, SOS, etc, etc, etc, during the most successful period in Utah football history,

Top 25 Finishes
BYU 6 > Utah 5

* crickets *

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

BYU vs. Utah in the Mendenhall/Wittingham era (2005-2012)

BYU vs. BCS teams: 12-14 (.462)
Utah vs. BCS: 19-16 (.542)
BYU vs. BCS w/winning records: 5-12 (.294)
Utah vs. BCS w/ winning records: 7-13 (.350)
BYU vs. BCS w/losing records: 7-2 (.778)
Utah vs. BCS w/losing records: 12-3 (.800)
Winning % of BCS teams that have played BYU: 174-154 (.531)
Winning % of BCS teams that have played Utah: 224-218 (.507)
(continued)

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

(continued)
BYU vs. PAC 10/12: 9-8 (.529)
Utah vs. PAC 10/12: 11-14 (.440)
BYU vs. PAC 10/12 w/winning records: 3-6 (.333)
Utah vs. PAC 10/12 w/winning records: 2-12 (.143)
BYU vs. PAC 10/12 w/losing records: 6-2 (.750)
Utah vs. PAC 10/12 w/losing records: 9-2 (.818)
Winning percentage of all the PAC 10/12 teams BYU has faced: 93/107 (.465)
Winning percentage of all the PAC 10/12 teams Utah has faced: 149/158 (.485)

To me it looks like Utah has a slight edge over BYU over all BCS teams, while BYU has a slight edge against PAC 10/12 competition. Neither advantage is great enough to boast about. Indeed, neither team has an impressive team against BCS or PAC 10/12 competition. Just wanted to get the objective stats out there.

NevadaCoug
Overton, NV

"As for UNLV, Utah is .875 all-time against them. You guys are .833. And since .875 > .833, you guys have no room to talk."

Actually, yes we do. You see, the team we cheer for doesn't usually lose to bad teams. I'm not going to say never, because it does happen from time to time. I can't think of any off the top of my head, but I'm sure it has happened. However, one thing that BYU does NOT do is get embarrassed by bad teams. Whereas, I can easily name two smack downs the Utes have suffered: Getting shut out by UNLV at home, for one; losing at home to a Colorado team that hadn't won a road game in, what, 4 years or so, for another.

But that is beside the point. I cheer for BYU. I couldn't care less about Utah anymore. When they were in the same conference I did, because a strong performance out of conference by a conference rival is always a boost to the team I cheer for when they play each other. Some people, however, care more about belittling another team than cheering for their own.

gdog3finally
West Jordan, Utah

The UNLV game debacle was in Vegas (not a home game).

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