very concernedAlthough he made some anti-religion quotes, John Adams also
believed the following."Our Constitution was made only for a moral and
religious people. It is whollyinadequate to the government of any
other."LDS4Every time someone posts that quote, they seem
to advocate passing laws that forcepeople to live according to
someone's subjective religious tenets. The rest of yourposts
@EDM*Your god's tried and tested version of marriage is alive
and well. Don't worry so much about it.*I respectfully
disagree. I think OUR (your and my) God’s *version* of marriage is not
feeling so well right now. And the Doctor’s prognosis doesn’t seem
good if things keep going the same. I don’t take much comfort in
assurances from those who tell me not to worry. Who tell me this will not
affect traditional marriages or religious marriages.I appreciate
your sentiment, but feel that defending marriage between a man and a woman is
vital at this time while there is still time for it to be saved. Thank you
though for your sincere opinion.And Happy Valley Heretic - I am just
as opposed to adultery and divorce, though divorce can be thrust on an innocent
party. I'm not perfect. I don't keep all the commandments each and
every day. But I call it as I see it, as is my right.
I feel sorry for people who believe this is the end of times because it must be
so depressing to wake up every day and the world continues to spin.Very concerned, you seem only concerned with one sin, why is that? Adultery
and divorce appear in the scriptures far more than scriptures attributed to
being gay, why wouldn't the world have ended because of the frequency of
those sins?Keep cherry picking and choosing which of Gods
commandments are earth ending deal breakers and those that are just part of
...well "Traditional Marriage" that way when you use religion to justify
your hate, you'll always be right.
Cont.3.It IS equality. If you go to CA, you will be able to
marry some of your same sex too, if you want to. This actually gives Americans
more freedom to pursue their happiness. The constitution has a protection from
the majority forcing their beliefs upon the majority. The constitution won
here.4.Moral AND religious people. One can be moral and not
religious. Yes, many gays are moral people if you get to know them and do not
believe the stereotypes.5.The god-given, centuries old
institution you worship also had polygamy, concubines , arranged marriages, and
brides being purchased from their fathers who owned them. The romantic, choose
your own partner "traditional marriage" is merely 200-300 years old.
6.One cannot vote away privileges and rights of the minority
(see answer to #2). We live in a constitutional republic, not a democracy.
That is why we have a supreme court to decide when we have gone too far with our
Very Concerned:1.How does adding to the word
"marriage" disintegrate it? I do not see that at all.Once
the word "voter" meant white, male, and land owning. We added non-white
and females and no one has to be a land owner. Did those equality fixes
disintegrate the word that the founders defined or add to it. I chose the
latter. I chose equality.2.Religion is also a behavior
but has been given as a personal right. Marriage is a privilege and as such
"no state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the
privileges...of the citizens of the United States...nor deny to any person ...
The equal protection of the laws.". Amendment 14 to the Constitution
Very Concerned, Your god's tried and tested version of marriage
is alive and well. Don't worry so much about it. You won't find anyone
who doesn't support that version.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints has taken a defensible stand on
this issue without caving to the pressure of the GLBT activists. They have not
compromised their doctrine.I too have long held that same-sex attraction
can be in a person's nature, but if we counted up all the behaviors that
were in a person's nature, we'd probably find that most of the
offences against God's commandments were on the list. After all, *natural
man is an enemy to God."On the positive side, my understanding
of the Church's teaching is that we should reach out to our GLBT fellow
human beings. That they are children of God as well. Please see
mormonsandgays.org, which states, *Where the Church stands:The
experience of same-sex attraction is a complex reality for many people. The
attraction itself is not a sin, but acting on it is. Even though individuals do
not choose to have such attractions, they do choose how to respond to them. With
love and understanding, the Church reaches out to all God’s children,
including our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters.*
5. It doesn't matter so much how you respond to this post. It will not
change immutable and universal laws; that there are consequences to breaking
God's laws. I do not believe the SCOTUS, or anyone else, except God
Himself, has the authority to redefine a centuries’ old, tried and tested,
God-given institution.6. So much for the popular vote (i.e.
California). Is it dying too?
1. Wherever the momentum is, we will continue to vigorously oppose the
disintegration of traditional marriage.2. The fact that this cause
has made such progress is a sign of the times. It is a sad commentary on the
state of the nation. Homosexuality is a behavior, not a civil or human
right.3. This is a case of the tyranny of the MINORITY. They have
so cleverly and effectively couched their arguments for this behavior in terms
of equal rights and constitutionality. I think the Founding Fathers would be
aghast at what the GLBT community has been able to pull off under that umbrella.
4. Although he made some anti-religion quotes, John Adams also
believed the following. *Our Constitution was made only for a moral and
religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.*
Red Corvette, religious people live longer: we will be making laws far into
the future. Economies with few babies equal poor, diminishing, downward cycle;
economies with many babies have hope and light and youth and strength. A
positive message will win in the future, and that is what has worked for
thousands of years. Who is your leader?
Hoping those unhappy with today's decision can attend the Church of their
choice this week There, may they find peace and understanding
A frog in a pot of water. Just slowly but continually raise the temperature.
The frog begins to relax and doesn't even know its cooked until it is too
late.The SCOTUS makes a decision by not making a decision on Prop 8.
Add a couple more years of propaganda from the LBGT and the constant media
blasts against those who disagree with same sex marriage and eventually the
majority of Americans will forget what they were opposed to.The
SCOTUS took the chicken way out by not deciding the case. Eventually the court
will have to rule on a state's gay marriage restriction law. Looks like
they are waiting until more of the opposition is cooked.
what's next? HA!! What do you think? Expect big brother government to FORCE
gay marriage on every state and attack any Christian group who dares to oppose
them. American is not even a shadow of what it once was....