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Published: Sunday, June 23 2013 6:30 p.m. MDT

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CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

@Chris B - "Who can forget that EPIC game with Idaho late in the season!"

At least we won our EPIC game. But none of us can forget the Utes EPIC game with Colorado late in 2011. Didn't the Vandals and Buffs have the same record going into those EPIC games?

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

christy

Who can forget that EPIC game with Colorado late in the season!

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

BryceDeMann said:

"Howard S, Are you being serious about that question? With the help espn gives BYU they are on national television all throughout the year even when they play the no name teams. Other teams in this state can play USC, Wisconsin, UCLA, Washington, etc and the best they can do is a regional root sports broadcast. Better to be the team complaining about blowing out n names, than to be the cellar dweller no name getting pounded by USC, Oregon, Stanford. Utah should have a great november schedule. But no one outside Salt Lake will even notice."

I think you and some other BYU fans her need to reread the article title.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

@Cousndawgs

Happy to be of service... and if an objective view helps Cougar Nation see through the fog of BYU's media spin, then so much the better.

Vladhagen
Salt Lake City, UT

It must be a very slow day at the pumps to get such a response from the BYU bashing party.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

spokaloo said:

"The Utah fans piling on BYU because of the November scheduling challenges is hilarious. Yes, it is tough for BYU to schedule as one of the few independents. It would however be impossible for Utah. They could not go independent. Not enough clout or fan base. I know you don't have to worry about it. You got invited to the PAC 12 due to lack of options.

Everyone know that BYU would have been in the PAC 10 or Big 12 in the 1980's if not for their religious affiliation and associated limitations. Utah fans hang their hat on 4-5 good seasons in their history. Talk to me when you been relevant for 40-50 years (see BYU's 5th highest winning percentage of any team since 1970, and 13th highest average ranking of any team since 1970)."

Well here we are. 40-50 years later and BYU is still irrelevant. No official conference invite, just rumors.
BYU went indie due to lack of options.
FYI - Utah has the highest bowl winning percentage over ten games of any team in the country.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

NightOwlAmerica:

"Everyone know that BYU would have been in the PAC 10 or Big 12 in the 1980's if not for their religious affiliation and associated limitations."

Actually, everybody knows that's just the Indy-WACer's unfounded frantic and emotional fantasy, designed to excuse their failure to do what their hated big brother did.

Utah...

(1) Was the "original" BCS buster. Little brother never even made the cut.
(2) Was the 1st non-AQ team to bust multiple BCS bowl games. Little brother just watched BSU and TCU accomplish what Utah could do, but they themselves could not.
(3) Got invited to your 1st choice of conferences; the very conference you all had been pretending to have been in super-secret negotiations...for about 3 decades. Little brother not only was never considered for the Pac-10, but they were "Fully Rejected" by their 2nd choice (Big 12), and only invited to join the worst BCS league -- the soon to be midmajor Big East/AAC -- because the 2-time BCS bowl busting Broncos bullied the Big East into extending one.

Reno Cougs Fan 68
Reno, NV

NightOwlAmerica,

Remind us all how many of those impressive 10 bowl wins were big name bowls against top competition? The answer is only one!!! By the way for all you keeping track, the win lose total for the Holy War since 1972 is BYU 26 wins and Utah 14 wins!!!

Go Cougs!!!
Go Utes!!!

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Reno Indy-WAC Fan 68:

"Remind us all how many of those impressive 10 bowl wins were big name bowls against top competition?"

Here's little brother's success vs. "top competition" included beating:

2006: unranked Oregon
2007: unranked UCLA
2009: unranked Ore. St.

Now for the Utes:

2001: unranked USC
2004: #25 Pittsburgh
2005: unranked Ga. Tech
2008: #6 Alabama
2009: unranked California
2011: unranked Ga. Tech

Significant edge: Utah.

Blue Cougar
Oak Harbor, WA

@Howard S. I'm sorry Howard, I didn't mean to draw you into the conversation. When I made my comments I was speaking to the other adults. But yes, the Utes "dumped" BYU for Fresno State in their effort to reach a bowl game.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

The article did not mention future schedules.

Most of BYU's 2014 and 2015 schedule are set, except for November:

Nov 2014: @Middle Tennessee, Southern Miss, UNLV, TBA, TBA
Nov 2015: TBA, @UNLV, TBA, TBA

From what I could find, as of today not a single BCS team has been willing to commit to playing at LES in November. So what's more likely the type teams going to be for TBA? Teams like Ohio State/Florida or Idaho State/SMU?

Mildred in Fillmore
Salt Lake City, UT

This article is wrong. Everyone wants to play us whether in November or September. With our worldwide following, ESPN broadcast partner and HD truck, we offer many benefits to potential opponents.

Elmer Fudd
Sandy, Utah

@ Reno Cougs Fan 68

"Remind us all how many of those impressive 10 bowl wins were big name bowls against top competition? The answer is only one!!! By the way for all you keeping track, the win lose total for the Holy War since 1972 is BYU 26 wins and Utah 14 wins!!!"

You Cougie fans love your selective statistics, don't you? Selective statistics can also be bent in Utah's favor too.

Head-to-Head Since 2002:

Utah 8
BYU 3

Since 1998 (BCS modern era):

Utah 9
BYU 6

Since 1988:

Utah 14
BYU 11

Since 1922:

Utah 53
BYU 31

Since 1896:
Utah 56
BYU 34

Selective statistics are fun! Now I can see why you Cougie fans love to use them.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

@Blue Cougar

Utah didn't dump BYU for Fresno.

Utah dumped BYU for a combination of the following reason:

1. They can... and they hold all the negotiating leverage...
2. Continuing to beat BYU annually does nothing to help Utah achieve its PAC 12 goals...
3. Utah doesn't need a game with BYU...
4. Utah shouldn't enhance the strength of BYU's schedule by granting them a BCS game...

WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

Reno Cougs Fan 68
Reno, NV
NightOwlAmerica,

Remind us all how many of those impressive 10 bowl wins were big name bowls against top competition? The answer is only one!!! By the way for all you keeping track, the win lose total for the Holy War since 1972 is BYU 26 wins and Utah 14 wins!!!

_______

Keeping track? LOL! You are not keeping track of very much.

Beck to Harline
Provo, UT

@Naval Vet

Please don't dwell on the past. It's something BYU fans are criticized of all the time....but I guess if the present isn't worth bragging about, you can just brag about the past. Just stick to the Indy-WACer/PAC12/Nobody wants to play BYU insults. Those resonate the most with BYU fans---not talking about the past. Talking about the past with BYU fans will just bring up 1984...and we all know how much Utah fans hate 1984...

Go Cougs!
Go Utes! (Except in Provo this September)

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

Blue Cougar--

"But yes, the Utes "dumped" BYU for Fresno State in their effort to reach a bowl game."

Please allow me to break-down what in fact took place--

UTAH strategically-targeted FSU exclusively due to recruiting-advantages. Fertile recruiting-ground, extra-game before family/friends, since 2015 has us at USC/UCLA at home, w/2-YR rotating-schedule still pending, although a game against Stanford would be at home, as well. Besides, FSU is a competitive-team, whereas it's clearly become anti-climatic against byu in terms of the outcome being a W for us, annually. Yaaaaaaaawn!

BTW, byu absolutely needed Weber State, Hawaii, Idaho and NMSU in 2012, in order to ensure bowl-eligibility, since it's common knowledge that, other than struggling mightily to beat usu by 3-PTS at home, byu doesn't beat good teams, particularly with SJSU misbehaving and not laying-down/playing bottom-feeder as expected when initially scheduled. Instead, they happened to be good, which of course virtually always equates to yet another L for byu!

FYI--During this current BCS Era, UTAH's 10-1 in bowl games, while byu's struggling at 6-5! Good times!

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

RE: Naval Vet

"Remind us all how many of those impressive 10 bowl wins were big name bowls against top competition?"

And here are some of the Bowl games you left off your 10-year list

Utah squeaked by WAC powerhouse Fresno State 17-16 in the 1999 Las Vegas Bowl
Also squeezed by Independent Navy 35-32 in the 2007 Poinsettia Bowl
They beat Conference USA Tulsa in the 2006 in the Armed Forces Bowl (25-13)
And don't forget the one you lost was a shell-shacking from another WAC team 26-3 (to BSU in 2010).

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

"4. Utah shouldn't enhance the strength of BYU's schedule by granting them a BCS game..."

Yet you laugh and make fun when BYU schedules teams like Virginia, West Virginia, Connecticut, Cincinnati, Ole Miss, etc. You guys have such a double standard. When BYU schedules a "BCS" team with a losing record, it lowers BYU's strength of schedule. However, when BYU schedules Utah (also a "BCS" team with a losing record), it "enhances the strength of BYU's schedule by granting them a BCS game". So, which is it?

By the way, at least BYU can beat a 2-10 team.

And since you guys say head-to-head record proves who is better, then BYU is better than Texas and Oklahoma. Thanks for bestowing such honors upon us.

It also seems to Ute fans as if all football history matters EXCEPT from 1979-2001.

Justmythoughts
Provo, UT

@azute

Yes..it is a good thing Utah dumped BYU to play Freso State and that fertile California recruiting ground.....oh wait ... I guess playing UCLA, USC, Cal, and Stanford didn't give them enough California exposure......please

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