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Published: Saturday, June 22 2013 6:37 p.m. MDT

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Utah_1
Salt Lake City, UT

Why Keep the Utah Neighborhood Caucus and Convention System?

The caucus system in Utah is the best way to make sure a grassroots process can win over large amounts of money. It is the only way someone with $100,000 can go against someone with $2 million in election funds.

We have a system that that does NOT favor the incumbent, wealthy or famous. This is a good thing.

Our only problem with voter turnout is it has not kept up with the population increase. The voter turnout keeps going up but not as fast as the population. Some of that is the younger voters, where Utah has a larger percentage of them and they aren't, as a group, as involved. Some of that are those moving in and not understanding our system.

If you are going to run as a Democratic candidate, you have to comply with their rules. If you are going to run as a Republican, you have to comply with their rules. If you want to run and not have those rules, you can run as an unaffiliated or independent, or run as a 3rd party candidate.

Utah_1
Salt Lake City, UT

We already have a "bypass" system. It is called filing as an unaffiliated candidate. You go straight to the general election. So if Mr. Jowers, or Mr. Leavitt don't think they can win if vetted by average citizens asking one on one questions, they can run that way and spend the money. Why should they be a party nominee if they are going to bypass the party?

When people realize this "Count My Vote initiative will give them less of a chance to participate but give media and power brokers more power, they will not sign any initiative. This is a power grab by Lobbyists, and those that want to run for office but don't believe they can win if vetted by average citizens asking one on one questions.

The 60% threshold to avoid a primary works, allowing a shot of a challenger to eliminate an incumbent and yet requires a challenger to be a strong candidate.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

I think it's funny when all the lefty commenters on this board scream how rotten the repubs are for keeping the caucus system, but their own party is doing it, too.

for the record, I oppose teh caucus system and favor a party primary

Esquire
Springville, UT

I frequently disagree with lost in DC, but on this we agree. Even Utah Democrats are too conservative to change. I think this state is even more of a lost cause than I thought.

FelisConcolor
North Salt Lake, UT

Utah_1 is correct: The caucus system actually favors the challenger.

Recent efforts to change the system can be labeled "The Empire Strikes Back"; both Party Establishments are trying to lessen the influence of grass-roots activists. The Republican BigWigs have never forgiven the party activists for kicking out Washington Insider FatCat Bob Bennett, and they're vowing to never let it happen again.

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