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Published: Thursday, June 20 2013 5:30 p.m. MDT

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ekute
Layton, UT

Utah and byu are not scared of each other, nor is either team scared of any other team.

Dr. Hill dropped byu from his schedule because he can. He stuck it to you. Simple as that.

Utah is in a position to set the terms for any future meetings,
and byu has the free agency to accept or decline.

byu is not in a position to make any demands on Utah.

Go Utes.

Rockarolla
West Jordan, UT

ESPN is the best network when it comes to college football. BYU is lucky to have such a partner. Plus ESPN is on Direct tv, which is the best satellite or cabel company for sports. I would live the see the PAC 12 get a deal done but I won't drop Direct tv just to see PAC 12 games. The trade off isn't worth it. Maybe if the Utes could start winning I might have a change of heart. For now I'll take BYU on ESPN and direct tv.

scenic view
Baltimore, MD

ekute

"BYU is not in a position to make any demands on Utah."

And neither is Utah in a position to make any demands on BYU.

BYU built its legacy without any help from Utah, and the Cougars will continue building on that legacy with or without Utah being included in the picture.

If the Utes want to run away and hide from the rivalry, the Cougars will be just fine. It's obviously that to soothe your fragile egos, U need us much more than we need U.

ekute
Layton, UT

@scenic view

I didn't say Utah was in a position to make demands on byu.
Neither team needs the other...but...any future meetings will be on Utah's terms.

Sooth you're own fragile ego by pretending that Utah is running from a 20 year domination, 8 out of the last 11 and 3 years in a row. lol.

Rumor has it that holmoe is giving up on independent football and focusing on an international soccer team. lol.

Go Utes.

scenic view
Baltimore, MD

ekute

"Neither team needs the other...but...any future meetings will be on Utah's terms."

Any future meetings will be on mutually agreed upon terms, which means they'll either be home-and-home or NOTHING!

During the Bronco/kyle era, Bronco has finished with a better record and higher ranking (which includes SOS) than kyle 5 of 8 seasons.

13 of the last 16 games have been decided by a touchdown or less in the final minutes of the game or in overtime.

Any delusional utah fan who believes that proves any sort of domination by the utes is only fooling themselves.

ekute
Layton, UT

Any byu "fan" that can't admit to head to head domination is in deep delusional denial and is only fooling themselves.

Rumor has it that construction has started to turn les it into an international rugby and soccer stadium. lol.

ekute
Layton, UT

Utah might settle for 2 games at RES and 1 in Canada if byu pays all expenses and mr. hall wears a Block U Hat and a Drum And Feather sweat shirt. lol.

iNKSpot
Wilsonville, OR

Will the Cougars ever get another shot at beating Iowa State for the first time?

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

iNKSpot

Will the Utes ever get another shot at beating Westminster College for the first time?

ekute

The Utes can't even beat WAC teams; what makes U think they could compete in the CFL?

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

Cougsndawgs

West Point , UT

My favorite quote:"The great teams don't back away from anybody"--Tom Holmoe
Hopefully Chris Hill heard that and saw it for the jab at Utah it unintentionally was...or was it?

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I hope Chris Hill heard that at started LOL, then pointed Holmoe to great teams like:

"Notre Dame will not be playing Michigan from 2015 to 2017. The school informed Michigan in September that it is exercising its three-year out clause and is taking a hiatus from the rivalry game series that was first played in 1887."

"The rivalry began in 1894, when Texas blanked A&M 38-0, and continued through the 2011 season. [The rivalry took a hiatus in 2012]."

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

Uteology:
Let me get this straight. Are you seriously suggesting Utah's situation is similar to ND/Michigan, or Texas/TAMU? First of all Michigan isn't NDs only rival, and they are keeping their biggest rival on the schedule, USC. Having to schedule 5 ACC games has caused them to evaluate ALL their rivalries and look for solutions (hardly the case with Utah and their ONLY rival...one could argue Utah state but I don't believe Utah really thinks the aggies are a rival).

Second, there's bad blood between Texas and TAMU and neither side is willing to budge for the other. Thats the reason for the stoppage in their rivalry, not because theyre great teams "backng away from each other". Last I checked, there isn't bad blood between Holmoe and Hill...they both "want to get it done". You're comparison is obviously apples to oranges.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@Cougsndawgs

Yes I am seriously suggesting that historical rivalries mean nothing when it comes to conference realignment regardless of the teams involved.

It has NOTHING to do with "The great teams don't back away from anybody". I know it's hard for BYU fans to understand this concept specially since we canceled the series.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

Outside of things pertaining strictly to a Rivalry [i.e., bragging-rights, securing our annual gimme W against 2-Star byu, etc.], 2-Star byu offers us ZERO benefit, ZERO.

A school such as FSU, however, benefits us significantly, recruiting-wise, which was the primary reason they were strategically-targeted for a series, particularly with our return-game scheduled for 2015, when we're at USC/UCLA at home and, while still pending confirmation of our 2-YR rotating North schedule, a game against Stanford would also be at home. Unsure about CAL, although should they return to our schedule, our 2012 game against them was at home.

My point is, in addition to being a competitive program/team, they're located in fertile recruiting-ground and it offers yet another incentive/selling-point for us in being able to play another game in front of family/friends.

Notching our annual gimme W against 2-Star byu is rapidly becoming less-and-less meaningful, especially when considering the big picture and the actual impact of the schools we schedule [i.e., Michigan for obvious reasons]!

Uteanymous
Salt Lake City, Utah

AZUTE1

"A school such as FSU, however, benefits us significantly, recruiting-wise,..."

bwaaahaha!

Fresno State has TWO lifetime AP Top 25 finishes - #24 1992 and #22 2004.

For a program like Utah, which only has FIVE lifetime AP Top 25 finishes themselves, that probably sounds pretty "competitive".

Of course, we all know that your recruiting spin is nothing but a frantic and emotional smoke screen. The ONLY reason the Utes dropped BYU to play FSU, was because Hill didn't think the Utes were good enough to handle playing Michigan and BYU in the same season.

In Chris Hill's own words:

"What we have to do is make sure we don’t come close to overscheduling," he said.

In Hill’s mind, playing both Michigan and BYU in the same years would have put the Utes in that situation.

"I can’t expect us to play 11 really, really difficult games in a season," he said.

Hill wasn't talking about Utah's annual Big Sky opponent, in those 11 really, really difficult games, and he mentioned 11 only because he didn't want imply that WSU and Colorado are really just patsies, which clearly, they are.

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

Uteology:
"It has NOTHING to do with "The great teams don't back away from anybody". I know it's hard for BYU fans to understand this concept specially since we canceled the series".

Yes it does have to do with "not backng away from anybody" as evidenced by other rivalries (outside of ND and Texas) that have been maintained despite difficult schedules in different conferences. I've already established why ND and Texas/TAMU have had to stop, if only for awhile. It's actually a very easy concept to understand for BYU fans...Utah doesn't want to play another difficult opponent (which uteanymous so thoroughly pointed out using Hills own word). You don't see Georgia backing down from GT, or Florida backing down from FSU. Or Kentucky backing down from Louisville....every team that doesn't have the issues ND and Texas have, has maintained their non conference rivalries. In the end, I don't care...as AZUTE wants to say about BYU, Utah does absolutely nothing for BYU in terms of national respect, recruiting or anything else...I do enjoy the rivalry, but it wouldn't hurt BYUs brand not having it.

GD
Syracuse, UT

Why do comments always down downing the Y or the Utes. They're both good schools. They both have fans that we all would like to ignore because of their obnoxious comments. Seriously I like to see all of the Utah schools do well against good opponents. Utah has a recruiting advantage which in the long run will probably make them a stronger school. However the Y is starting to get some interest from recruits not LDS which should help them get stronger as well. I enjoy good football and basketball especially when played here in Utah. I hope the schedules don't get so strong that we can't compete.

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