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Published: Thursday, June 20 2013 5:30 p.m. MDT

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Hondo
Scottsdale, AZ

Must have struck a chord with you, given that a lot of the comments are directed at me. I love it!

Busta,

"I hate to burst the Utah bubble but I live and work smack in the middle of PAC and have for 15 years. I can tell you that the rest of your beloved conference barely know you exist and hardly even talk about you. Theydo however enjoy the easy wins. Utah makes WSU look like a powerhouse."

Your credibility goes right out the window when you claim to live outside of Utah, but your screen name suggests you live in SLC. Oops. If you live in SLC everything you said is complete garbage. If you really live elsewhere, one has to question why you claim you live in Utah, but really don't. All other "claims" you make are rubbish.

Then you go on to claim that you've lived in PAC country for 15 years. Utah has been in the PAC for 2. Not sure what your point is. As for the WSU comment, Utah has beaten WSU both years so I'm not sure where you're going with that comment and I bet you don't either.

SportsFan
Orem, UT

WACpaddled

"PAC 12 also has new contracts with ESPN and Fox."

But unlike BYU, who is guaranteed to be on ESPN, Utah has to wait for the ESPN/FOX/PACnet lottery to find out if they've been found worthy of an appearance on ESPN.

The following BYU games have already been scheduled for national broadcast - remember, the BYU-ESPN contract only applies to BYU home games:

at Virginia - ESPNU
Texas - ESPN2
Boise St - ESPN
at Notre Dame - NBC
at Utah St - CBS SportsNet
at Nevada - CBS SportsNet

Utah's current broadcast schedule:

Utah St - FOX Sports 1
Weber St - PACnet
Oregon St - FOX Sports 1
UCLA - FOX Sports 1

Fortunately for U, the BYU-Utah game is at LES, so you're guaranteed at least one appearance on ESPN.

Hondo
Scottsdale, AZ

"Utah will be playing Weber State this coming season. But I'm trying to take a higher road than some of my Utah counterparts by not mocking them for it."

Yet, you brought it up. It's nothing to be ashamed of. Utah is playing Weber State. There, I said it too. However, it's one thing to play one or two easy games and quite another to play the soft schedule BYU has played the past two seasons.

I can't wait to watch BYU play a more rigorous schedule (even though it still won't be as challenging as Utah's) and lose.

skywalker
Palo Alto, CA

Hondo

I live near and work with hundreds of Stanford, California, UCLA, USC, Washington, Oregon and other PAC 12 fans and I can honestly tell you that Utah is the invisible man in the Bay Area.

Except for an occassional Utah fan wearing a Utah hat or t-shirt with a PAC 12 logo, you wouldn't know that the Utes are members of the conference.

NOBODY even mentions the Utes.

On the other hand, I see BYU fans all the time and often hear BYU sports being discussed, even amongst PAC 12 fans.

BYU sports on TV in Missouri
Lebanon, MO

All you have to do is compare the award winners list to see which program has the most national recognition.

BYU... Doak Walker award, Davey O'Brian awards, Heisman Award, Maxwell Awards, Outland Trophys.

Utah... Home Depot Award to Coach Urban...

Luke Staley won more national awards in one year than the combined total of Utahs players since Utah started playing football. Ouch... That's gonna leave a mark...

Dr Rush
Saint George, UT

ESPN is embracing BYU for one reason and one reason only they have a big following which makes for better ratings, Same reason Norte Dame has an exclusive with NBC. Since I'm a USC fan you guys can biker back and forth about the BYU vs Utah thing, but just in observation Mendenhall is one of the worst coaches in D1 and because of that BYU with him at the helm will never play in a meaningful bowl game.

redfeather
Palo Alto, CA

Dr Rush

Thanks for your opinion. Coming from a "USC fan", I guess we're supposed to be impressed with your vast football knowledge.

btw, what's "biker" got to do with discussing football?

BYU Furnitureman
Lebanon, MO

It was no secret that BYU going independent was going to present some challenges with the schedule. If BYU wins more games it will probably get harder. BYU will probably have to string together 4-5 really good seasons in a row against good teams to get over the hump so that the rewards of playing BYU outweigh the downside of losing to BYU. ESPN has been a good partner. Glad to have them on board.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

Hondo,

Would you believe me if I told you that I actually don't live in Riverton, and actually haven't for almost a decade?

Your head-to-head comment was also a little inaccurate, but people have already pointed out the weakness in that argument.

SoonerUte
Salt Lake City, UT

CG says... "Ironically, Utah isn't even considered a top-10 team"

I don't recall the article mentioning anything about Utah. My comments certainly didn't. The topic is BYU and their schedule.

As you Cougar fans are drawn in to the usual Utah-BYU dribble, you ignore the article. You should read it. It lays out for fans very clearly that BYU is not interested in playing for another national title. Oh sure, if the game were handed to them, yes they would participate. But those days are over. Now teams have to earn your a spot in those games, and as both Tom Holmoe and Bronco indicate, they're not interested in putting together a schedule that puts them on that path.

So, yeah, I totally get why you'd want to change the subject.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

SportsFan said:

"Hondo

If rankings don't mean anything, then why do Utah fans beat their chests every time Utah beats a ranked team?

* crickets *"

Probably because BYU has a horrible record against ranked teams the past several years.

Go 2013 ranked opponents!

*blame the refs*

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

SportsFan said:

".....BYU's partnership with ESPN is a symbiotic relationship (look it up) that was created with the plan already in place for ESPN to help broker made-for-television games for BYU. What's good for BYU is good for ESPN.

It's gotta be tough for jealous Utah fans to finally be coming to grips with the fact that the World Wide Leader considers BYU to be such an attractive sports product that ESPN willingly signed BYU to an exclusive 8-year contract.

ESPN executives have stated many times since how thrilled they are to have BYU as a partner."

Investors will say anything to make their investment look good. Especially since BYUs TV ratings were not great last season.

Call it what you want, there is nothing "exclusive" about the ESPN contract. If that was the case, BYU would be the only college game on the network. It's just an agreement between BYU and ESPN. There are many games that gained higher TV ratings than BYU.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

BYU sports on TV in Missouri said:

"All you have to do is compare the award winners list to see which program has the most national recognition.

BYU... Doak Walker award, Davey O'Brian awards, Heisman Award, Maxwell Awards, Outland Trophys.

Utah... Home Depot Award to Coach Urban...

Luke Staley won more national awards in one year than the combined total of Utahs players since Utah started playing football. Ouch... That's gonna leave a mark..."

Compair all you want. All that fluff you are talking about, has never given BYU an official conference invite the past 40+ years.

NightOwlAmerica
SALEM, OR

SportsFan said:

".....But unlike BYU, who is guaranteed to be on ESPN, Utah has to wait for the ESPN/FOX/PACnet lottery to find out if they've been found worthy of an appearance on ESPN."

Guaranteed is one thing, winning is another. Something BYU seems to have in front of a national audience.

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

NightOwlAmerica:
"Call it what you want, there is nothing "exclusive" about the ESPN contract. If that was the case, BYU would be the only college game on the network. It's just an agreement between BYU and ESPN. There are many games that gained higher TV ratings than BYU".

Exclusive means ESPN has exclusive rights to BYUs home games. It also means BYU is the ONLY program in America that has a PARTNERSHIP with ESPN, not just a contract. That's what Sports Fan was saying (if not he can correct me). Who knows what you're talking about above, but ESPNs contract with BYU is indeed exclusive. If that WEREN'T the case anyone else would have a partnership with them, and any other network could compete with them for home rights to BYU games.

poyman
Lincoln City, OR

BYU will win 9 gmes this year... Utah may not win 3... If Utah played BYU's schedule this year, they would not win 3...

EdGrady
Idaho Falls, ID

Who needs ESPN when you have blow torch networks like PAC-12 Network and Fox Sports 1?

Bluto
Sandy, UT

Heisman, Maxwell, Outland, Walker, O'Brian and Baugh trophies, are nothing more than fluff to Ute Nation?

National Championship, Legendary HOF Coach, 23 Conference Championships, College Hall of Famers, Consensus All-Americans, etc.. More fluff?

Stands to reason for Ute fan, what U will never attain, you can never really fully appreciate.

BYU's achievements constitute a "Legacy".
A resume, if you will, of generations of achievement.

BYU has checked the necessary boxes, over decades, to become a National Brand and Legacy school. And Utah, despite it's backdoor approach, has not.

While taking 50 years to win it's first Outright Conference Championship, Utah had 6 good years.
and now all they have to boast of is a fraternity patch.

Now the rubber has met the road and U are the road.
Your "Mask of False Bravado" has been removed and U have taken Wazzu's place as your Conference doormat.

BYU will march to the beat of "their" drummer....
Because.........
THEY CAN!

As for BYU's exclusive deal with ESPN, only Notre Dame has such a deal with a "Major" Network..
BYU plays on a Major Network nearly every game. While Utah is rarely "chosen" at all.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@nightowl

"Guaranteed is one thing, winning is another."

Good point 5-7 and 7-11. Losers.

ekute
Layton, UT

@skywalker

Palo Alto, CA

"On the other hand, I see BYU fans all the time and often hear BYU sports being discussed, even amongst PAC 12 fans."

Would that be in the ward house? lol.

Tell the truth, outside of the LDS community, is byu discussed any more than Utah?

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