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Published: Thursday, June 20 2013 5:30 p.m. MDT

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WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

But seriously folks!
Salt Lake City, UT
ESPN is a great partnership. I am glad to see that they recognize a quality and a class-act program that they want to be connected to. The exposure is the best in the state, much better than the PAC 11+U network.
GO COUGS

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PAC 12 also has new contracts with ESPN and Fox.

Wiscougarfan
River Falls, WI

RE: Howard S.

“On the field Utah has a winning BCS record and BYU has a losing BCS record.

Fact...”

On the field BYU has a winning record against the PAC12 (9-8, .529) and Utah has a losing PAC 12 record (11-14, .440).

Fact...

Hondo
Scottsdale, AZ

Fashionista,

You're arguing against your own. I pulled that statement from one of yours. And your argument is a massive failure because you've presented a strawman. If head-to-head does not indicate which team is better, then why even play games?

Troll,

ESPN doesn't get Nick Saban's name wrong. BYU is irrelevant and you know it. Every time you read about Roscoe, it stings because it's a painful reminder that you're not as important as you think you are.

WACPaddingOurSchedule
pocatello, ID

spokaloo
Adin, CA
@Howard S

Yes, ND is a 4 for 2 schedule. BYU has to do that because they are not ND. However, Utah has only been to South Bend. ND would not agree to play at Utah and never will. Utah is too small of a fan base, stadium, and lack of tradition. Like it or not, to even get ND to visit once is a compliment for BYU. Funny how a non-bcs school like BYU can get ND to visit, but a BCS school like Utah can't (although after next year, BYU and Utah are back on the same level playing field...no more BCS) Once ND starts scheduling Washington State, Iowa State and the likes for home and homes, Utah has hope.

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Why does Utah need to schedule ND to be relevant? They play in a BCS conference. BYU needs ND to get noticed.

ND is playing Temple and Navy on the road in the future. They are non-BCS. So much for your BYU special treatment. With the new ND/ACC agreement, ND has already said they will play mostly road games in places with high catholic concentrations.

Hondo
Scottsdale, AZ

Messing with Texas,

Oh the hypocrisy! You can't leave the Utes alone, either. And I'm sure that you frequently hit the Denver Post and LA Times, given how much time you spend on this site.

RojoRules
SOUTH SALT LAKE, UT

BYU could have a decent season next year if they could hold onto to their stout D and provide some good O. Even though they have the toughest schedule in years and have more BCS opponents than usual, they are still playing some weaker teams with Mid Tennessee, Virginia, GT, Houston, Idaho St, Utah St. and Nevada. If they can win all of those and pull out possible win with Texas and Nevada, then that will be success. Good luck cats.

Honestly Utah is probably not going to have that great of a season. They have a stretch of 8 games starting at BYU and ending at Oregon that they could possibly lose every single one. Hopefully they can pull out two or three in there. Winning the BYU game may be the only thing we'll have to brag about by the end of the season. Though that game is going to be tough.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@silverstateute

"Holmoe knows that to be nationally relevant, BYU — especially as an independent — needs to have a perennially attractive schedule." Correction, national relevance does not come from an attractive achedule. Beating "attractive teams" on the schedule (not teams from Idaho not named Boise) is what brings national relevance."

I couldn't have said it better myself, but you're going to have a hard time convicing your fellow utah "fans" like lint, chrsitina, and howie of that fact. They seem to think it is all about your SOS and winning has nothing to do with it.

Chiro
Portland, OR

It seems like ESPN felt like they had to step in to protect an investment. ESPN probably didn’t have faith in BYU to make their own schedule and stepped in to help. I guess ESPN got sick of BYU/New Mexico ST or BYU/Idaho on their channel.

JCC75
SEATTLE, WA

Love being able to see the Cougars play every week on TV here in Seattle. Let's make it a great year, Cougs!

SportsFan
Orem, UT

Hondo

"If head-to-head does not indicate which team is better, then why even play games?"

Who was better in 2007, Utah(9-4) or UNLV(2-10)?

Who was better in 2011, Utah(8-5) or Colorado(3-10)?

Who was better in 2012, unanimously selected national champion #1 Alabama(13-1) or #5 Texas A&M(11-2)?

Who was better in 2012, #2 Oregon(12-1) or #7/#6 Stanford(12-2)?

If rankings don't mean anything, then why do Utah fans beat their chests every time Utah beats a ranked team?

* crickets *

giantfan
Farmington, UT

Hondo,

You're right, head-to-head is everything. That's why in 2011 Colorado was a better team than the Utes. It doesn't matter that the Buffs finished 2-10 and the Utes finished 8-5. It's also proof that 2007 UNLV was the better team than Utah, even though they finished 2-10 and their only other win was against 2-10 USU.

But then there's the example of 2011 where Alabama won the national championship by beating LSU. The conundrum is that LSU beat Alabama earlier in the year @ Tuscaloosa! How is it even possible that LSU could've lost to Alabama after proving they were better by beating them just a couple months before? Perplexing.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Between the $6M to $8M per game and ESPN, I personally know of several 5 star recruits coming to BYU because of ESPN.
ESPN has made it clear that BYU is the best program in the US.

SoonerUte
Salt Lake City, UT

"Right now we’re not a top-10 team." -- Tom Holmoe

That sets the tone for making a schedule. Since they're not a top-10 team, they don't need to worry about impressing the BCS or Playoff committee. They can focus on the number one goal of exposure, which means playing in different parts of the country and parking the Granite Flats HD Truck in exotic locations.

Tators
Hyrum, UT

To Hondo:

If BYU is so irrelevant as you say, then why do you and other Ute fans get so extremely excited whenever Utah beats them? Seriously, why would beating BYU define the entire season for so many Utah fans if BYU is irrelevant? It's because obviously they are not.

And yes, one team can beat another and not be the better team. The Jazz beat the Spurs this season, but no one with any sense considers the Jazz the better team... except maybe just on that day. And so it is with Utah and BYU.

There is an ebb and flow to the rivalry. Utah beat a very close game last year based on fewer turnovers. Before the current mini-run, BYU beat Utah 3 out of 4 games. It goes back and forth. Neither "owns" the other as some tout.

Chiro:

Try to become informed. ESPN never has broadcast any of the New Mexico or Idaho type games that BYU (like most other big programs) use for filler. Nor is there any plan to. Did you forget that Utah is playing Weber State this season?

STuFOO
Korea, AE

Hondo writes:

"because it's a painful reminder that you're not as important as you think you are."

That's rich.

So let me get this straight. You improperly used the BYU coaches name to illicit just such a response from a BYU fan, on a BYU comment Board, on a BYU article, then you want to lecture to a BYU fan that they are not as important as they think they are?

So by you using the improper name of the coach and being disrespectful, and a BYU fan correcting you, it is a reflection on the BYU fans about their teams importance?

Wow, can't argue with that logic.

Ute buster
Salt Lake City, UT

I hate to burst the Utah bubble but I live and work smack in the middle of PAC and have for 15 years. I can tell you that the rest of your beloved conference barely know you exist and hardly even talk about you. Theydo however enjoy the easy wins. Utah makes WSU look like a powerhouse.

Tators
Hyrum, UT

OK... attempt #2, toned down.

To Hondo:

If BYU is so irrelevant as you contend, then why do you and other Ute fans get so very excited whenever Utah happens to beat them? Seriously, why would beating BYU define the entire season for so many Utah fans if they considered BYU irrelevant? It's because obviously BYU is not.

And yes, one team can beat another and not be the better team. The Jazz beat the Spurs this season, but no one with any savvy considered the Jazz the better team... except maybe just on that particular day. And so it is with Utah and BYU.

There is an ebb and flow to the ongoing rivalry. Utah beat a very close game last season based on fewer turnovers. Before the current mini-run, BYU beat Utah 3 out of 4 games. It goes back and forth. Neither "owns" the other as some fans tout.

However, what will some die-hard Utah fans talk about after both USU and BYU beat them this year and especially if Utah still can't qualify for a bowl game? It will change the entire nature of these comment boards.

Tators
Hyrum, UT

To Chiro:

Had you been paying better attention, you would already know that ESPN wasn't stepping in to protect anything, since they never have broadcast any of the New Mexico and Idaho level of games played by BYU, nor will they in the future.

I'm a bit surprised that you haven't yet noticed that many big teams, even Oklahoma and Notre Dame play a few gimme games every year. FYI: Utah will be playing Weber State this coming season. But I'm trying to take a higher road than some of my Utah counterparts by not mocking them for it.

SportsFan
Orem, UT

Chiro

"It seems like ESPN felt like they had to step in to protect an investment. ESPN probably didn’t have faith in BYU to make their own schedule and stepped in to help."

It seems you're simply grasping at straws.

BYU's partnership with ESPN is a symbiotic relationship (look it up) that was created with the plan already in place for ESPN to help broker made-for-television games for BYU. What's good for BYU is good for ESPN.

BYU has a long-standing relationship with ESPN, in fact, the BYU-Pittsburgh game that opened BYU's 1984 National Championship season was the first nationally televised college football game on ESPN.

It's gotta be tough for jealous Utah fans to finally be coming to grips with the fact that the World Wide Leader considers BYU to be such an attractive sports product that ESPN willingly signed BYU to an exclusive 8-year contract.

ESPN executives have stated many times since how thrilled they are to have BYU as a partner.

CG
Orem, UT

SoonerUte

"Right now we’re not a top-10 team." -- Tom Holmoe

Ironically, Utah isn't even considered a top-10 team...

in their conference!

ESPN's Pac-12 future Power Rankings
1. Oregon
2. Stanford
3. UCLA
4. Washington
5. Oregon State
6. USC
7. Arizona State
8. Arizona
9. California
10. Washington State
11. Utah
12. Colorado

ouch!

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