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Published: Thursday, June 20 2013 5:30 p.m. MDT

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shorts
Payson, UT

RE:Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

"Coulda-woulda-shouldas are meaningless."

Yes, that said BYU would of won most of the that you are hanging your hat on. Utah has lost to more bottom feeders then BYU. Look at both team I would agree with Eagle and say BYU would not of done more then one game better(Colorado) more likely about the same. BYU and Utah are both good teams. Neither are great teams. BYU has had several Great teams in the past. Utah has had two Great team much more resent. Throw out the 54-10 game and pretty much all of the last 12 games between BYU and Utah were a toss up. I think there was another game Utah one easy don't remember if it was in the last 12 though.

shorts
Payson, UT

RE:Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

I was talking BCS teams.

MUSSing with U
Baltimore, MD

Hondo

"How does Roscoe feel about exposing himself on ESPN?"

Who's Roscoe? Utah's latest QB experiment?

FelisConcolor
North Salt Lake, UT

Howard

I can understand why you would want to ignore reality, but Utah has been in a BCS conference now for two years and they haven't come close to having a winning record against BCS competition.

Instead, they've suffered 7 double-digit losses to PAC-12 foes. That is more indicative of Utah's position relative to other BCS programs than Kyle's overall record against BCS teams while a member of the MWC.

I can also understand why you would ignore the significance of last year's USU game. BYU fans didn't understand the significance of the 34-31 Utah win in 1993 either; they consoled themselves at the time with the fact they had clobbered Utah 14 out of 15 times prior to that game.

In reality, the 2012 USU game showed just how much USU had improved, while it showed just how far Utah had fallen. It will become obvious to everyone that times have changed after the Aggies come in to RES this season and paste a blowout loss on the overconfident Utes.

FelisConcolor
North Salt Lake, UT

One more thing: If anyone wants to see just how much "respect" the Utah program has among national pundits, then check out the college football page on ESPN.com where they predict the power rankings in the PAC-12 over the next three seasons.

Where do they rank Utah? Near the bottom at #11, just above Colorado. It almost seems like the main reason Larry Scott invited Utah and Colorado was to give the rest of the conference the opportunity to pick up a couple of easy "BCS wins" every season.

Hondo
Scottsdale, AZ

"Comparative scores aren't a great predictor of success against other teams."

Exactly! The best indicator for which team is better is who wins in a head-to-head game.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

"In most cases [opposing coaches] say, 'No, I'm not interested in playing,' which is a compliment to our program." -- Bronco mendenmidmajor

Is that so? Well, according to Jeff Call...

"the Cougars have scheduled teams from nine different conferences, including the Big Ten, the Big 12, the Atlantic Coast Conference and the Pac-12. Those featured on upcoming schedules include Virginia, Texas, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Michigan, Arizona and West Virginia."

So I guess those would be but a small sample of the schools that have absolutely NO respect for our Indy-WACey little brother.

Hondo
Scottsdale, AZ

"BYU is and always has been a 2nd tier power with a broad but shallow church based following... nothing more... nothing less."

What's funny is when I see people in my neighborhood here in AZ sporting BYU gear and start a conversation about the upcoming football season and they can't even name players or basic facts about the program. These are your fervent fans, your "international" fanbase........

Rockwell
Baltimore, MD

howie

"On the field Utah has a winning BCS record and BYU has a losing BCS record."

You're still hiding behind labels. Sorry to burst your delusional crimson bubble, but beating a losing team doesn't impress ANYBODY, regardless of whether they wear a "bcs" logo on their jersey or not.

On the field - wins against teams with winning records
Bronco 25
Kyle 25

On the field - losses to teams with losing records
Bronco 4
Kyle 6

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

"Looking at future games that have been announced, the Cougars have scheduled teams from nine different conferences, including the Big Ten, the Big 12, the Atlantic Coast Conference and the Pac-12. Those featured on upcoming schedules include Virginia, Texas, Wisconsin, Nebraska, Michigan, Arizona and West Virginia." You forgot Utah. I guess it's still a sore spot with the DN staff to put Utah and Pac-12 in the same sentence. lol. I can't wait to see what happens when Dr Hill tells Holmoe the next series will be a 2 for 1.

“lots of conversations, not a lot of takers...”

"BYU has plenty of help with scheduling thanks to its broadcast partner, ESPN."

Sounds like byu would be no where as an independent without ESPN.

jimmypage
Meridian, ID

@ MyPerspective

"Sounds like byu would be no where as an independent without ESPN."

Uhhh, are you just now figuring that out?? In other news, the sky is blue, the ocean is big, and ute obsession with everything BYU is alive and well.

Hondo
Scottsdale, AZ

MUSS,

Roscoe is your beloved head coach. At least that's what your committed TV partner, ESPN, thought his name was on one of its broadcasts.

Fashion Police
Olympus Cove, Utah

"Comparative scores aren't a great predictor of success against other teams."

@Hondo: "Exactly! The best indicator for which team is better is who wins in a head-to-head game."

Sorry, but your hill logic class failed U. There's absolutely no conclusion that can be drawn from the first statement that confirms the second statement.

The best indicator for which team is better is overall record and ranking, unless you believe that Team Y(1-10) is better than Team U(10-1) just because Team Y won the head-to-head.

ekute
Layton, UT

To MyPerspective's point...What is ESPN going to think about byu after the end of this season when they've experienced what it's really like to play a big boy schedule?

Go Utes.

Ufan
Salt Lake City, UT

DistortedPerspective

And where would U be without the PAC 12? You've obviously forgotten who televised some of Utah's games during their first year in the PAC before the PAC net existed.

BYU didn't blindly choose to go Independent.

As you'll recall, BYU announced its 8-year partnership with ESPN the same week it announced its Independence.

BYU's backup plan is BYUtv, which has wider distribution than the PAC net.

What would be your backup plan, KUED?

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

MyPerspective:
"You forgot Utah. I guess it's still a sore spot with the DN staff to put Utah and Pac-12 in the same sentence".

Yep they forgot, just like the rest of the media around the country has forgotten U.

"I can't wait to see what happens when Dr Hill tells Holmoe the next series will be a 2 for 1".

I can already tell you...the rivalry won't happen for a long time. When Utah commands that kind of respect then maybe Holmoe will talk about it, but that's certainly not the case now. Who knows maybe that's the hold up to future scheduling?

STuFOO
Korea, AE

Gotta love ute trolls.

They want everyone to believe that utah's 2004 and 2008 season and the 3 of 4 over BYU are set in stone indicators that they are a top tier, power house "BCS" team...

All the while telling BYU fans, on BYU comment boards that their accomplishments for not only the past 8 years, but the past 28 years don't matter.

Fine, here is the only things that matter, because college football changes every year!

1. What did you do last season?
2. What did you do in the last game?
3. What did you do in the last head to head competition?

and

4. Conference Titles.
5. National Championships.
6. Individual national awards.
Because they last forever.

The reason utah's BCS bowls don't matter is because, well the don't matter.

You can't name the 2002 second and third tier BCS Bowl winners without looking it up, because no one cares, unless your team was in it. No one cares who comes in 3rd place, or 4th. That's why ute fans thumping their chests about it is silly.

No one cares outside of utville.

Swoop
Salt Lake City, UT

ekute

"What is ESPN going to think about BYU after the end of this season when they've experienced what it's really like to play a big boy schedule?"

You might be very surprised. Stay tuned.

It's obvious what the rest of the PAC 12 thinks of U - bottom dwelling patsies to pad their conference records.

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

I really don't mind all the Ute comments, but what doesn't make sense to me is that many of U say U have moved on, and this isn't a rivalry any more, and U don't care about the Cougs; but yet U continue to comment. Occassionally, I pop open the Denver Post or LA Times. I have yet to ever see any of U comment on the articles about the Buffs or the Trojans. Face it, U can't leave the Cougs alone.

TrollPolice
Salt Lake City, UT

Hondo

BYU's head coach is BRONCO!

Only desperate BYU-haters from the hill would still be clinging to a typo made by an ESPN stringer TWO YEARS after the fact.

Grow up already!

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