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  • Cougar in Texas Houston, TX
    June 29, 2013 5:59 p.m.

    Robertson Daniel is a good pick up. He was team MVP and a JC All American in 2011 before sitting out last year.

  • WON84 PLANO, TX
    June 25, 2013 9:58 a.m.

    "byu's gone 0-2 against UTAH."

    No one outside of Salt Lake really counts Utah as a power conference team. Perhaps that's the reason for the discrepancy.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 24, 2013 7:13 p.m.

    AZUTE:
    For the last time. I am using the only apples to apples argument available and that is what the coaches did when they were in the same boat. I do realize that playing these opponents every week vs once in awhile is different, so I used the period of time when both coaches played them once in awhile. Bronco 7-4, KW 4-3. What part of that logic are you not understanding...or are you simply avoiding it by saying pre 2011 doesn't count? As I said, logically the time that was the same for both coaches is the only fair comparison. FACT- BYU/Bronco vs the PAC10 7-4, Utah/KW vs the PAC10 4-3. That's the only logical and fair comparison, and the fact that Bronco had a better record can't be disputed despite all your spin and desperation at changing the discussion/argument (Wiscougar was talking about records against the PAC...not defense, not offense, not 54-10...records against the PAC).

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 24, 2013 1:42 p.m.

    @couglifer--

    Huh? I stated our key-injuries as fact, nothing more. Why would I feel the need to make excuses when my team won the game?

    Regarding games played in years past, I've made clear my stance on it in the context within which I posted my previous comments.

    Regarding byu's D, I've equally made my stance on it clear within my previous comments on this website. Football is multi-faceted, not limited to rushing the football/Rush-D. Within your comment you hit upon JWIV not playing, one of PAC-12's top RBs, and you referenced other key-injuries. These included QB, across our O-Line, WRs, etc. Yet, what is perceived to be the byu rush-D "prowess" is entirely irrelevant here, since UTAH won the game. Confusing regarding what point you're attempting to make here? Are you laying claim to some sort of moral victory, since UTAH didn't need lots of rushing-yards, in order to end-up victorious? The point is to end the game with the most points, correct? Please explain to me what your point is, because what I know is exclusively relevant is the following --

    FINAL--UTAH 24 byu 21.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 24, 2013 1:14 p.m.

    @cougsndawgs--

    Any explanation in refutation to any byu fan making vain attempt to elevate his team above mine becoming misinterpreted as somehow constituting, "crying"/making "excuses", couldn't be further from the truth! It's a necessary part of the obvious refutation in pointing-out the difference between playing PAC-12 teams randomly, with the likes of the Weber States/NMSUs/Hawaiis/Idahos of the College Football world mixed into it as breathers in-between, as opposed to facing them back-to-back in a week-in, week-out capacity! Posting records which have a 4-game disparity between them in total-games played is inherently incomparable! Why not go the next step in posting their head-to-head record, as well?

    It's quite curious never seeing byu's performance against these 5 PAC-12 schools directly addressed by DesNews' posters! If this is all TDS can manage to "accomplish", just imagine how they'd fare facing UTAH's annual PAC-12 slate!

    bm's incapable of ever winning big games/taking byu to the extent nationally which Coach KW has taken UTAH! Sure, he avoids the choke-jobs pretty consistently, but any byu fan being honest would trade places in a heartbeat!

  • couglifer South Jordan, UT
    June 24, 2013 1:14 p.m.

    cont.

    Know body was challenging the outcome of the game what was being talked about was BYU’s defense. Yes Utah won the game but can’t you and you other BYU hater fans agree that BYU had a solid defense

  • couglifer South Jordan, UT
    June 24, 2013 1:13 p.m.

    @AZUTE1

    So what you are saying is what happened before 2011 is now irrelevant your own words. So the next time you start yapping about the 2008 and 2004 season it is in your own words irrelevant right. Or am I missing something here?
    Also you and navel vet keep saying that all BYU fans keep giving excuses for losing what I would like to know is why all the excuses for BYU defense holding your pacwhatever rushing attack under average if BYU is so wac-ish then why this comment
    UTAH was significantly more disadvantaged by key-injuries/suspension in last year's game, by miles and miles, yet still won the game, yet again.
    JWIV took nearly 1/2 the season to recover and shouldn't have even seen the field against ASU down here, either.
    All I ever hear are excuses made by byu fan as to why they registered their annual loss against UTAH in 2012.
    Why would we as the winning school ever need to make excuses, ever? Huh?

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 24, 2013 11:37 a.m.

    wiscougarfan--

    The logic is flying overhead. First of all, what took place back in 2005 in now way impacts what the teams are today. Furthermore, given byu's lackluster performance against The PAC-12 today by virtue of these 5 games, just imagine how they'd fare playing against UTAH's PAC-12 slate! This is why it's utterly ridiculous to point-finger! You can point to one, single irrelevant game against CU, which is in fact an entirely different conversation, but this unrelated game in no way, whatsoever, mitigates what I can point to in easily topping you people, namely--

    54-10 on byu's homefield during the same, exact season! Not to mention, byu's significantly weaker SOS! It's a no-win debate for you! 2011 CU is not only 100% irrelevant/unrelated to UTAH/byu, it amounts to a poor-man's distraction-tactic you people employ in avoiding reality out of utter desperation to cope, nothing more! I guarantee you, you'd trade places in a heartbeat, and you know it!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 24, 2013 9:26 a.m.

    AZUTE:
    "I compared what byu has done against The PAC-12 during this same 2-year period. Spin it all you want, but while byu fan points his finger at UTAH while playing against this legitimate weekly-grind, byu's played a total of 5 PAC-12 schools, in between their steady-diet of cupcakes, yet can produce merely the following in going 2-3, overall--"

    LOL..U can make all the excuses you want about weekly grind, and cry about how tough your conference is (as NV pointed out...it's because you're a WAC school in a major conference). Bottom line: BYU under Mendenhall has a winning record against teams in your conference while Kyle doesnt. Stop trying to make up excuses for that very simple FACT. If you're worried about apples and oranges, lets look at what Bronco and Whit did against the PAC before U went...Bronco 7-4, Whitt 4-3...advantage BYU/Bronco. And as you said comparing your "weekly grind" is apples and oranges...so why did you only use the last 2 years? Your frantic and desperate attempts at trying to disprove BYUs superiority against your conference is what's "truly priceless"..."LOL".

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 24, 2013 9:03 a.m.

    RE: AZUTE1

    "LOL....You predate UTAH's PAC-12 membership for byu, yet don't state it accurately for UTAH. Their time in the conference is an entirely different deal, when they're playing these schools, week-in, week-out. Before becoming a member, these games were played every once in a while. Apples-to-Oranges. Nice try....LOL."

    Yep, I do predate Utah's PAC-12 membership. I was talking about the Mendenhall era... YOU are the one that changed the subject--because you had no favorable response. That's what trolls do, so you're holding up your end.

    Concerned about the easy wins BYU has had vs PAC 10/12 in the Mendenhall era? Don't be, BYU has a better winning percentage against winning PAC teams (.333 to .143). BYU beat three teams with winning records, and their two losses were to 6-7 UCLA and 5-7 Utah. Utah beat two winning teams and lost to 3-10 Colorado.

    Now in all fairness, Utah's overall SOS vs. PAC 10/12 teams is slightly higher (.485 to .465). As far as your "week-in, week-out" grind? Let's talk after you beat a team with a winning record.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 24, 2013 8:53 a.m.

    "Oops, you're right, caught me on a technicality. Let me rectify my wrong. In the PAC 10+2 during the Mendenhall era BYU has a winning record, while Utah does not."

    More of the same, Apples-to-Oranges, with UTAH's PAC-12 membership rendering this comparison no longer possible. LOL

    But showing what byu has done during same 2 years against smaller sample, although not having to endure PAC-12 back-to-back weekly-grind, but rather playing them separated by the typical cupcakes featured on byu's annual-schedule, yet they still manage to produce utter-futility, beating only 2 cupcakes, getting annihilated at home by the lone 2 teams finishing above .500 and going 0-2 against UTAH!

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 24, 2013 8:29 a.m.

    RE: AZUTE1

    "BYU has a winning record against the PAC12 in the Mendenhall era."

    This is incorrect--

    byu is 2-3 against The PAC-12."

    Oops, you're right, caught me on a technicality. Let me rectify my wrong. In the PAC 10+2 during the Mendenhall era BYU has a winning record, while Utah does not.

    BYU vs. PAC10+2 teams (2005-present): 9-8 (.529)
    Utah vs. PAC 10+2 teams (2005-present): 11-14 (.440)

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 24, 2013 5:42 a.m.

    ImaCaMan

    "Re: down under

    With that schedule of yours most any team would have the same results. Look out! Here comes SJSU!"

    What's truly priceless, is that we all know SJSU was originally scheduled to add yet another cupcake to byu's schedule, in order to assist in ensuring bowl-eligibility! Then it freaking blew-up in byu's face when SJSU, to byu's utter surprise, happened to be good, which of course is precisely the type of team byu never beats, unless it's against usu by 3-PTS at home!

    SJSU didn't behave and just simply lay-down as expected to do when they were initially scheduled! I absolutely love it!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 24, 2013 5:23 a.m.

    "BYU has a winning record (9-7) against the PAC10/12, while Utah in the Whittingham era does not (11-14). Satisfied? This display of straw grasping reaks of desperation. Face it...BYU is better against your conference than U are."

    LOL....You predate UTAH's PAC-12 membership for byu, yet don't state it accurately for UTAH. Their time in the conference is an entirely different deal, when they're playing these schools, week-in, week-out. Before becoming a member, these games were played every once in a while. Apples-to-Oranges. Nice try....LOL

    I compared what byu has done against The PAC-12 during this same 2-year period. Spin it all you want, but while byu fan points his finger at UTAH while playing against this legitimate weekly-grind, byu's played a total of 5 PAC-12 schools, in between their steady-diet of cupcakes, yet can produce merely the following in going 2-3, overall--

    Beating only 2 bottom-feeders, getting utterly destroyed at home by the only 2 schools finishing the season above .500, to the tune of 96-34 combined, and going 0-2 against UTAH!

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 23, 2013 10:32 p.m.

    AZUTE:
    "byu is 2-3 against The PAC-12. They beat 2 schools, at '11 OSU and '12 WAZZU at home"

    Seriously? You're going to get hung up on a technicality? Ok, in the Mendenhall era (as Wiscoug said) BYU has a winning record (9-7) against the PAC10/12, while Utah in the Whittingham era does not (11-14). Satisfied? This display of straw grasping reaks of desperation. Face it...BYU is better against your conference than U are.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 23, 2013 10:28 p.m.

    Note on my previous comment--

    "Spin away, but only the loser, by definition, is qualified to make excuses!"

    Yet, it in no way means these excuses even remotely are valid, particularly the excuses byu fan's become notoriously infamous for making over the decades!

    I've yet to witness, during my entire lifetime, byu fan acknowledge byu lost the game, ANY game lost, because the other school was actually better than them and just simply outplayed them!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 23, 2013 9:52 p.m.

    UTAH was significantly more disadvantaged by key-injuries/suspension in last year's game, by miles and miles, yet still won the game, yet again.

    JWIV took nearly 1/2 the season to recover and shouldn't have even seen the field against ASU down here, either.

    All I ever hear are excuses made by byu fan as to why they registered their annual loss against UTAH in 2012.

    Why would we as the winning school ever need to make excuses, ever? Huh?

    No, we point-out all of our key-injuries merely to punctuate the fact we were playing at significantly less than 100%, easily more so than byu, yet we still beat byu. Spin away, but only the loser, by definition, is qualified to make excuses!

    This is an annual tradition for byu as the annual loser!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 23, 2013 9:40 p.m.

    wiscougarfan--

    "BYU has a winning record against the PAC12 in the Mendenhall era."

    This is incorrect--

    byu is 2-3 against The PAC-12. They beat 2 schools, at '11 OSU and '12 WAZZU at home, which both finished at the bottom of conference standings. They played against 2 schools which finished the season with a winning record, '11 UTAH and '12 OSU, and got absolutely brutally curb-stomped by both schools at home, combined to the tune of 96-34! Their 5th game was yet another loss against UTAH, this time at '12 UTAH.

    byu's gone 0-2 against UTAH.

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    June 23, 2013 9:27 p.m.

    Koloss,

    Really? Pretty weak. BYU's qb played the game with a broken back. Utah wasn't the only team in that game with injuries. Nice try though.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 23, 2013 9:05 p.m.

    Koloss:
    "Utah didn't have John White that game. The year before JW4 had 176 yards alone against BYU".

    John White didn't have a great season last year. His best games came against the weaker defenses on Utah's schedule. I doubt he would have had much success against BYU had he been healthy. Comparing stats from 2011 is apples and oranges...BYUs defense was ranked much higher, and was much better in 2012. Also, you're above statement is exactly the problem with Utah in the PAC12. If someone goes down you have to have depth to recover...Utah obviously didn't/doesn't. BYUs starting RB also went down with a broken arm last year. We had a freshman stud that filled his shoes and then some. Where were all your 4 star athletes to fill for White? We also had multiple injuries on the offensive line, and an injured starting DE going into the Utah game, but we choose not to make excuses.

  • Koloss Hampton, VA
    June 23, 2013 7:00 p.m.

    @Cougsndawgs

    Utah didn't have John White that game. The year before JW4 had 176 yards alone against BYU. Utah was also without Blechen, Rowe and Wynn. BYU couldn't even beat a depleted Utah team.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 23, 2013 2:14 p.m.

    RE: Naval Vet

    "It's not amazing at all. Your defense was stifling the weakest teams in the WAC while Utah's was going up against a slew of much more prolific Pac-12 Offenses."

    Then, in the same discussion thread...

    "No, no, no, no! Final Score! THAT's the only "stat" that really matters."

    Your credibility is shot when you make contradictory statements. But here's some FACTS...
    BYU had one of the best defenses in the country last year. BYU had a top 5 pick in the NFL draft from their defense. BYU's defense is projected to have another first rounder this year. BYU has a winning record against the PAC12 in the Mendenhall era. Can your team claim any of these things? NOPE. Go Cougs!

  • Y Grad / Y Dad Richland, WA
    June 23, 2013 12:22 p.m.

    Cougsndawgs
    West Point , UT
    Naval Vet:
    "It's not amazing at all. Your defense was stifling the weakest teams in the WAC..."

    BYU vs Utah stat line: first downs- BYU 25, Utah 14, total offense- BYU 312, Utah 245, rushing BYU 106, Utah 49, passing BYU 206, Utah 196. There were only 2 teams that held Utah to less yardage in their "big boy" schedule ute fans always brag about, ASU & Washington.

    Just goes to show you, U can take the team out of the WAC, but you can't take the WAC out of the team (or some of its nv-ous fans).

    Or maybe more to the point, it's easier to put the team in the PAC than it is to put the PAC into the team!

  • ImaCaMan Oceanside, CA
    June 23, 2013 12:12 p.m.

    Re: down under

    With that schedule of yours most any team would have the same results. Look out! Here comes SJSU!

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    June 23, 2013 11:39 a.m.

    "No, no, no, no! Final Score! THAT's the only "stat" that really matters."

    So, the year UNLV(2-10) shut out Utah, they were clearly the better team? By a long shot! I'm ok admitting that Utah was the better team last year, as long as you admit that UNLV was better than Utah that year; and not just in that game, but for the whole year because they won the head to head.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 23, 2013 11:22 a.m.

    Naval Vet:
    You missed the point of my post. I'm saying BYU held Utah to less yards rushing and less total yards (except ASU & Washington) than anyone else on Utah's so-called "big boy" schedule. So if BYUs defense was only ranked high as a result of "stifling the weakest teams in the WAC", yet BYU stifled Utah...what does that say about U? Utah= weak WAC team masquerading in a "big boy" conference...you nailed it NV! Lol

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 23, 2013 10:08 a.m.

    Cougsndawgs:

    BYU vs Utah stat line?

    No, no, no, no! Final Score! THAT's the only "stat" that really matters.

    Utah was simply the better team. Period. Just like we've been in at least 8 of the last 11 meetings. Now go wipe your tears.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 23, 2013 12:45 a.m.

    Naval Vet:
    "It's not amazing at all. Your defense was stifling the weakest teams in the WAC..."

    BYU vs Utah stat line: first downs- BYU 25, Utah 14, total offense- BYU 312, Utah 245, rushing BYU 106, Utah 49, passing BYU 206, Utah 196. There were only 2 teams that held Utah to less yardage in their "big boy" schedule ute fans always brag about, ASU & Washington. There was NO ONE in said "big boy" schedule that held them to less yards rushing than BYU. Considering these facts and the "stifling" the Cougars did on the Utes, if one were to evaluate Naval Vets quote above, they would agree that he just made the best argument for how Utah is a "WACish" program masquerading in a "big boy" conference.

  • Rockarolla West Jordan, UT
    June 22, 2013 11:04 p.m.

    For once Chris B might be right. The BYU secondary has been suspect for a while now. The biggest problem is finding athletes who can qualify academically. As you may or may not know, BYU doesn't take partial academic qualifiers. It's true that allot of great athletes cannot take the academic pressure put on by schools like Notre Dame, BYU and the Ivy league schools. If the academic standards were relaxed these schools would probably have a little more success in recruiting the elite athletes. Schools that will accept poorer academic proformers(like Utah fore instance) will always have a better shot at a larger pool of athletes. That's just a fact of life.

  • deductive reasoning Arlington, VA
    June 22, 2013 11:32 a.m.

    Naval Vet

    "Your defense was stifling the weakest teams in the WAC while Utah's was going up against a slew of much more prolific Pac-12 Offenses."

    LOL at your constant whiny excuse making.

    Georgia Tech (playing in a "big boy" conference) finished 2012 as the #2-ranked rushing offense in the country with 311 rushing ypg.

    On October 12th, BYU visited Georgia Tech and completely shut down Georgia Tech's offense, holding the Yellow Jackets to 117 yards rushing and 157 yards total.

    On December 31st, USC played Georgia Tech in the Sun Bowl. Georgia Tech ran all over the mighty Trojans racking up 294 yards rushing and 369 yards total offense in a 21-7 win.

    BYU Opponent Rushing Yards
    Wash St -5
    Weber St 115
    Utah 49
    Boise St 116
    Hawaii 41
    Utah St 41
    Oregon St 118
    Notre Dame 270
    Ga Tech 117
    Idaho 61
    SJ St 59
    NM St 29
    SDSU 119

    BYU's run defense was stout against everybody they played, including FIVE Top 25 teams.

    Even Notre Dame, which had the most success, spent most of their time chewing up yardage between the 20's, while only managing to score 17 points.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    June 22, 2013 12:24 a.m.

    Name calling, rankings and "it must be the coaches" doesn't get you a win on the field vs the Utes. lol

    Go Utes.

  • kaysvillecougar KAYSVILLE, UT
    June 21, 2013 5:38 p.m.

    Naval Vet is a star watcher. You should come out to the sundance film festival, hang out with Robert Redford. Come on, get out of philidelphia once in a while.

  • But seriously folks! Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2013 4:49 p.m.

    Naval Lint, and other BYU haters,
    Since BYU can be a national leader in defense with your so called 0 and 2 star recruits it must mean that the BYU coaches can get more out their players than the Utah coaches with their 5 star players.

  • But seriously folks! Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2013 4:27 p.m.

    Naval,
    Agree with the Tator. BYU coaches do more with less. Utah ranked much lower in all defensive stats. Must be the coaches.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 21, 2013 4:27 p.m.

    Tators:

    It's not amazing at all. Your defense was stifling the weakest teams in the WAC while Utah's was going up against a slew of much more prolific Pac-12 Offenses.

    It's also not amazing that the Utes beat our Indy-WACey little brother in 8 of the last meetings, while simultaneously recruiting better classes in 9 of the last 12. The teams with the most "star" recruits win the majority of the time. It's only amazing when those teams with the most "stars" lose.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    June 21, 2013 4:23 p.m.

    Naval lint,
    OUCH. Tators took it to you.

  • panamadesnews Lindon, UT
    June 21, 2013 4:04 p.m.

    @Chris B: Maybe there is a conspiracy to discourage all good cornerbacks from signing with BYU so as all of their opponents will be able to pass on BYU. lol Seriously, Chris B, what is your take on your question? We would like your thoughts on the subject. Please don't spew the usual diatribe. We would like to hear your honest thoughts on the subject without you being political(Utah is in the PAC 12 and BYU is independent. We already know that. Tell us something we do not know! If you can.

  • Tators Hyrum, UT
    June 21, 2013 1:52 p.m.

    To Naval Vet:

    Isn't it amazing how BYU, with it's low-star defense athletes (that you like touting about), were nationally ranked so much better than Utah's defense. In fact BYU's was a top 5 defense while Utah wasn't even ranked in the top 50. Sounds like you are the one that should be worried about adding some more depth.
    There comes a time when you should be a bit more careful with the can of worms you open so often. It usually comes right back at you... and with a thud!

  • ekute Layton, UT
    June 21, 2013 1:21 p.m.

    @Cougsndawgs

    Too late...Chris already felt that tug on his line. lol.

    @Thats what I thought

    The cougs were strong on the defensive line and at linebackers...thanks to bronco...that's where their pass defense came from. They're always hurting for more athleticism at corners and to some extent at safeties.

    Go Utes.

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 21, 2013 11:39 a.m.

    "Junior college transfers Sam Lee and Robertson Daniel are set to arrive on campus next week and could both add significantly to the overall depth of BYU's defensive backfield." -- Brandon Gurney

    That they COULD. Rivals lists both athletes as having received no other offers, and as a 2-star athlete, Daniel is JUST the sort of player our midmajorey little brother looks for. As a 0-star, Lee also possesses the sort of pedigree that's necessary to attract Indy-WACey coaches' attentions.

    Ya gotta love it when a 0- and 2-star athletes are being touted for to "add...overall depth".

  • FelisConcolor North Salt Lake, UT
    June 21, 2013 9:16 a.m.

    StevenSJarvis:

    Actually, Utah needs to first focus on beating Utah State this year.

    Because the MWC Aggies are definitely better than the PAC-12 Utes and will likely make it two in a row, and since the Utes haven't been able to beat a BCS team with a pulse since 2009 they are going to need every non-conference win they can get.

    This game will be relatively easy for USU, because not only do they return most of their starters and have more talent overall, Utah will once again be looking past them to the BYU game -- which is the only game Ute fans care about anyway.

  • thebigsamoan Richmond, VA
    June 21, 2013 7:30 a.m.

    Welcome news! Hope the kid will be a great asset to the team and have a great career as a cougar! Here's hoping he'll also continue to keep his academics status on the up and up.

    I'm a huge Cougar fan but I also like the Utes and root for them when they're not playing BYU. I'm anxious to see what happens come September when the two teams meet. I'm hoping this year the outcome will be different if for nothing else just to silence the incessant and hateful vitriol from the haters. For this reason I'm pleading with all of you my fellow Cougar fans who are predicting a BYU win to please stop. Of course I'm hoping you're right but there's no guarantee that we will so please don't keep making the same mistake of underestimating C. Whit and the Utes! They have proven over and over that they are a formidable opponent to us. Let's stay classy and not make silly predictions that keeps hurting us when they don't come true.

    Go Cougars! And good luck to the Utes too!

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    June 20, 2013 10:27 p.m.

    Another great addition to a top 5 defense. If our offense can get us 14 points a game, we go undefeated.

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    June 20, 2013 10:25 p.m.

    With these guys and the ESPN contract we could have a huge year. Hard to beat when we're always on ESPN.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    June 20, 2013 7:12 p.m.

    The utes took some bruising in the wood shed last year. Look for some big time licks this year starting with Utah State. Maybe a bowl game in a few years will be possible, but not this year.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 20, 2013 7:09 p.m.

    I think even ute fans have disowned Chris B. I won't bite on his typical ridiculous commentary.

    It will be nice to get these two going in fall camp and see what they can do. Losing Trammel was a big blow to BYU...our secondary may have been the best it's ever been if trammel were healthy. Hopefully these two guys (Lee especially is supposed to be pretty good) can make up the difference. And I agree with other posters...they'll easily be enough to beat Utah's powder puff offense.

  • Steven S Jarvis Orem, UT
    June 20, 2013 5:53 p.m.

    Chris,

    Utah State was the only team wearing big boy pants last year in football in this state. They took your little boy team from the big boy conference and taught them a lesson. Utah won't be all grown up till they win their division, or end the season ranked five years running. That won't happen anytime soon. They need to first work towards being bowl eligible.

    A true Ute fan would not hinge their entire year on whether or not they in the BYU game.

  • Spider Rico Greeley, CO
    June 20, 2013 5:30 p.m.

    What did U's offense do against BYU last year? Basically nothing. The D is great. This is a great addition. Add to that a quarterback on offense and it's time for B to eat some crow. Yes you have won the most recent games, but not this season. Taking from your old posts "Mark it down." Oh yeah, I forgot, LOL.

  • Thats what I thought South Jordan, UT
    June 20, 2013 5:29 p.m.

    If I had an extra 500 people on the field for the last couple of plays in a close game, I could win a whole bunch of games too.

  • Thats what I thought South Jordan, UT
    June 20, 2013 5:20 p.m.

    If I had an extra 3000 bodies on the field for the last couple plays of a close game I could win any game.

  • Thats what I thought South Jordan, UT
    June 20, 2013 4:39 p.m.

    @Chris B. In case you forgot, BYU was ranked #10 nationally in passing defense last year. The U? 64th. Rushing defense? Why- that would be BYU at #2 and the U at #22. Total defense? BYU #3, U at #36. BYU ranked higher in the nation in defense that the U ranked in the Pac-12.

  • AltaHawkFan Sandy, UT
    June 20, 2013 4:36 p.m.

    Chris B commenting first on a BYU article ? That couldn't be possible. Why is it Chris that the rest of ute nation has supposedly moved on from the BYU rivalry but you seem to be stuck in neutral ?

    Good luck Robertson ! Glad to have you on the team. Go BYU !

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    June 20, 2013 4:32 p.m.

    I like Daniels comments on education and what he has learned through an experience in life. I wish him success both off and on the field for BYU this year.

    Go UTES!!

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    June 20, 2013 4:13 p.m.

    Nice additions to the program. Should be enough to beat Utah this year.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 20, 2013 3:58 p.m.

    byu, thin in secondary?

    That couldn't be possible.

    Why is it byu fans that you are always thin in talent at secondary?