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High school football: Reigning Mr. Football Austin Kafentzis commits to Gary Andersen, Wisconsin

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  • Striker Omaha, NE
    June 22, 2013 3:53 p.m.

    "But Utah is not winning the head-to-head recruiting battle over any BCS programs, Colorado and Washington State included."

    Of course they are. Look at how Utah is "dominating" the in-state competition!

    By the way, ESPN has Utah being the 2nd worst team this year in the PAC. WSU's recruiting being the key factor to jump Utah.

  • 4601 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 22, 2013 9:56 a.m.

    Yes he is attending a prestigious BCS school, as opposed to a not prestigious BCS school.

  • IndianaCoug Bloomington, IN
    June 21, 2013 12:30 p.m.

    RE: AZEUTE1

    "Regarding byu/usu, UTAH/WISC would never regularly be in serious competition for recruits, overall, since latter 2 are routinely in competition for recruits with 3+ Stars, while the former 2 will be routinely in competition for recruits with 2- Stars."

    I would love to know how Utah/Wisc are "routinely in competition for recruits with 3+ stars"? They have only gone head-to-head for five recruits (Bart Houston, Walker Williams, Allan Havili, Ula Tolutau, and Austin Kafentzis), the first three are 3 star recruits, Tolutau is a 2 star recruit, and Kafentzis is not yet ranked (although according to the tone of your posts, I suspect you would give him zero stars). I don't know if would say five head-to-head battles constitutes a "routine."

    The truth is that BYU, USU, and Utah go head-to-head much more frequently, and lately Utah has been winning that battle. But Utah is not winning the head-to-head recruiting battle over any BCS programs, Colorado and Washington State included.

  • fender Washington, UT
    June 21, 2013 11:26 a.m.

    VegasUte

    Stott did not sign a LOI @ Arizona, but he was enrolled. He has to sit out a year @ Utah, but gets 4 years of eligibility after that, if he decides to play. The word is that several things turned him away on Arizona. First off Anae was the one who recruited the kid, while Mike Stoops was head coach. He was not a Rodriguez recruit. Anae got the BYU job and left the same day that Stott, as a mid-year high school senior, arrived in Tucson. He had no other connection with the coaches and players and felt isolated. Also felt that the Az program under Rodriguez had changed in ways that did not suit him as a player. He is enrolled @ Utah and deciding if he wants to play next year or just get on with his education.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 21, 2013 11:01 a.m.

    I love you Mildred!!

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    June 21, 2013 1:51 a.m.

    @AZUTE1
    "I'm utterly speechless right now"
    Lol! You don't sound very "utterly speechless" because you're still talking about it. You're apparently very angry that you lost this kid from your backyard to the former Utah St head coach. Hoo-hoooooooooo...ute fans are full of angst and extremely bitter over losing those kids. Keep coming with the "we never wanted him" comments, or the "he's not very good" comments.

    (Methinks thou doth protest too much)

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 20, 2013 4:09 p.m.

    Oh no...the stars are out again. I will take a 2 star that shines brighter on the field and becomes an all American bowl game winner and national award winner vs a 3 or 4 star that implodes into a black hole void of championships, bowl games, or trophies any day. It's unfortunate all these 3&4 star players AZUTE and NV boast about can't beat a PAC12 team with a winning record or win any nationally recognized trophies or awards. Que the SOS spin.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 20, 2013 3:18 p.m.

    "As it stands right now GA grabbed the highest rated non-LDS prospect in the state (not expected to go to BYU) right out of Kyle's backyard. It's looking like he can come to Kyle's neighborhood and grab any kid he wants and leave the leftovers for Utah, Weber St and Utah St to fight over."

    As it stands, Coach GA has exactly 1 recruit out of UTAH for 2014 and 1 recruit for 2015, neither of which UTAH ever even remotely seriously pursued. For instance, go to any of the recruiting websites and see for yourself what each one's insiders are stating regarding UTAH's QB prospects. Not only was this particular kid never mentioned as a QB-target for UTAH, he was also never mentioned as a kid UTAH pursued seriously even just simply as an ATH.

    Regarding byu/usu, UTAH/WISC would never regularly be in serious competition for recruits, overall, since latter 2 are routinely in competition for recruits with 3+ Stars, while the former 2 will be routinely in competition for recruits with 2- Stars.

  • Mildred in Fillmore Salt Lake City, UT
    June 20, 2013 3:17 p.m.

    BYU didn't need this guy. We're stacked for years to come on both sides of the ball.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 20, 2013 3:10 p.m.

    "I think they're suggesting it because both kids came from Coach Whitt's backyard and the RB from East High is practically in Whitt's back pocket he's so close. If he starts getting kids from Bingham High or Utah Valley schools to come to Wisconsin then it will look more like what you said is true."

    I'm utterly speechless right now. I don't believe I'll ever again meet another person who believes a HC's ability to recruit will be judged upon the recruits he does/doesn't receive commitments from between 2 different schools [1 versus the other], due to distance, which happen to be located within the same, exact county, not to mention within the same, exact state, to boot. WOW.

  • Utah'95 FPO, AE
    June 20, 2013 9:03 a.m.

    Keep in mind that I say this as a lifelong, loyal Ute fan:

    With Utah's recent (since 2008) history at the quarterback position, it shouldn't surprise anyone that top high school QBs in the state of Utah go somewhere other than the U.

    "Losing" a prospect from the state of Utah to play for Alabama or Wisconsin also shouldn't surprise anyone. Alabama is currently the best program in the nation, and is on the short list for the best all-time program in college footbal. Wisconsin has also had two solid decades of great football.

    It sounds as though there are several good quarterbacks in the Utah system now, but until they deliver on the field, it doesn't mean much.

    I am hoping Travis Wilson has a productive season and helps the Utes exceed expectations.

    Go Utes!

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    June 19, 2013 8:41 p.m.

    "Chris B
    Salt Lake City, UT
    Congratulations on choosing a prestigious BCS power conference school. We would have liked you, but you'll probably get more playing time at Wisconsin as we're pretty loaded at running back right now. Gary Anderson is a great coach. Good luck!

    Sincerely,

    Fellow Power Conference Member Pac 12 University of Utah Utes"

    That's what Chris B posted last month when another high profile recruit in Utah's backyard decided to go to a "prestigious" BCS school at Wisconsin instead of going to a non-prestigious BCS school like Utah. Sounds pretty familiar...

    Well Chris...I don't know what to tell you. Maybe win a few games in the Pac12 and the top local players will start thinking of the UofU in those same terms. Right now it looks like Gary Andersen is stealing Whittingham blind.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    June 19, 2013 8:27 p.m.

    @VegasUte
    "It would have been very nice for Utah to get Kafentzis on the team, but he would never have played at QB. Blechen is a prime example of what Whitt can do with high school QBs."

    Bad example, I don't think Blechen's well-documented problems are Kyle's doing or should be blamed on him. Brian needs to own his own baggage there.

    On a different note, I find it extremely hilarious to read all the sour grapes coming from die hard ute fans like AZUTE1, Chris B (he's not really a ute fan, just a BYU hater), etc. All the comments like he's old, he'll never play QB, etc just show how bitter you are that Gary Andersen came into your backyard and stole another high profile recruit (like the RB from East High).

    Don't get mad at the kids, get mad at Chris Hill and Kyle for joining the Pac 12 and promptly running the ute's ship right into the ground. If they were winning games and actually looked like a BCS program then local kids who aspired to play for a BCS caliber school would commit to utah.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 19, 2013 8:18 p.m.

    @Cougar Passion--

    You make a fair point, but I'll take it a step further. I'm close friends with 2 former byu All-Americans from the '80s down here, and it's a consensus sentiment among them.

    bm is why byu can't reel-in non-LDS players with the same frequency as LE did. His priorities are in the reverse of what's required, in order to achieve it. One guy had an equally robust laugh at bm's expense, but no matter one's stance on level of importance Firesides, etc. deserve, this mentality has relegated byu to gradually falling further-and-further behind., across-the-board.

    Right on cue, a succession of the expected, typically regurgitated spin-based vitriolic responses to me will immediately ensue, but fact remains, long gone are days when byu's win-total included 2-3 wins over decent teams, annually, whereas excepting a 3-point final margin over usu at home and not up there in Logan, byu has padded their win-totals in recent memory primarily with College Football's absolute bottom-feeders. Only just in 2013, does their SOS seemingly jump slightly upward toward a respectable level, yet still ripe with weeks off.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    June 19, 2013 8:03 p.m.

    @AZUTE1
    " but for those suggesting he's successfully raiding all of UTAH's top-tier talent, this article only mentions 2 kids"

    and

    " it's the other in-state schools which'll be negatively-impacted by Coach GA/WISC, NOT THE U."

    I think they're suggesting it because both kids came from Coach Whitt's backyard and the RB from East High is practically in Whitt's back pocket he's so close. If he starts getting kids from Bingham High or Utah Valley schools to come to Wisconsin then it will look more like what you said is true.

    As it stands right now GA grabbed the highest rated non-LDS prospect in the state (not expected to go to BYU) right out of Kyle's backyard. It's looking like he can come to Kyle's neighborhood and grab any kid he wants and leave the leftovers for Utah, Weber St and Utah St to fight over.

  • BigCougar Bountiful, UT
    June 19, 2013 7:55 p.m.

    @Chris B
    "Great choice to attend a prestigious BCS program.

    We would have liked to have you, but with Chase Hansen among others in our pipeline, you will likely get more opportunity at playing time elsewhere."

    Nice comments, they bring some questions to mind:

    1. Hmmm...how on earth did Coach Whittingham manage to whiff on this kid? Gary came into Kyle's backyard and stole ANOTHER recruit right out of Whittingham's back pocket. Why don't any of these kids want to go to the BCS school in their own backyard?

    2. I noticed you complimented him on his choice to attend a "presitigious" BCS school, are you implying that the UofU is the opposite of prestigious?

    3. I know it's killing you that Kyle whiffed on another local H.S. star that went to Wisconsin and former Utah St HC Gary Andersen, isn't it?

    Last is a comment, you mentioned with Chase Hansen in the pipeline that Austen wouldn't get much playing time but I think you're wrong there because Hansen will be playing Linebacker and Austen is more athletic and would've been playing in the secondary at Utah under Kyle.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 19, 2013 7:38 p.m.

    @wiscfan

    --Any ideas on why the "scouts" feel that way. He just turned 17 and most experts say that men grow until they are 18-21 and sometimes until age 25. At 6'1" and 195 lbs he's already big enough to play as a D1 quarterback, but I suspect he'll tack on another inch or two. I don't know if he really needs to bulk up, he already can bench 340 and squat 500 lbs. That's more than adequate for a quarterback. His 4.42 forty time isn't half bad either. Also, kid won't "be 20 entering college," he'll be 19 and turn 20 after his freshman season has concluded... you should probably do a little research before spouting off.--

    WOW....Hold the presses everybody! Somebody who's 1,500 miles away, doesn't know this kid from Adam, has ZERO experience within the recruiting business, has most likely never even so much as seen this kid play in person, refuses to acknowledge what's 100% blatantly obvious to everybody else, knows nobody outside UTAH/with UTAH-Roots has offered him, etc., etc., etc., etc., knows precisely what lays ahead for this kid, above all others, UNEQUIVOCALLY!

  • Stang08 Cedar City, Utah
    June 19, 2013 6:45 p.m.

    Whoever said Mitch Jessop has sour grapes is really dumb. USU never looked at him and he made a great choice going to a great school. Awesome team, great education, and respectful fan's to boot. The aggie team is ok. Probably won't be this year. Don't know about the education. And to know what the fan's are like you need to go to the games. Big difference between the two of us. But the point it this high school kid making the choice to go to Wisc. Again very very good choice kid.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 19, 2013 5:31 p.m.

    Naval Vet:

    It is my understanding that Stott has enrolled at Utah for Summer classes. Nobody I know knows yet what exactly happened with Arizona, nor when he will be eligible to play. Hopefully, when all is cleared up, he will explain what happened. I am very glad he is a Ute, though, and didn't try to follow Anae. Smart kid!

    Go Utes!!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 19, 2013 5:08 p.m.

    @uu32

    Comprehension on your part would help. I am simply playing on what utah "fans" like to tell BYU fans, that BYU cannot get non LDS recruits, that no top recruit wants to go to BYU, that utah gets nothing but top recruits, that pac12 membership would seal the deal for ALL top instate recruits, etc.

    YOu and I both know all of those things are false and it is times like this that make it fun to point out the utah "fan" hypocrisy.

    As for KVN, yes he is LDS. Hoffman and Williams are not. And the fact those BYU players are out of staters does not "drive home the point". In fact it proves my point which is kafentizis is an instate kid, and he is non LDS, and those are the kids those illustrous utah "fans" told us utah would be getting lock, stock, and barrel. It appears that is not the case. They also tell us BYU will not get those kids so for BYU this means nothing.

    BYU gets plenty of top QB recruits, just about every year they sign a top 20 guy. utah does not. utah needs kids like that.

  • Cougar Passion Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2013 4:55 p.m.

    @UU32: Not being from Utah myself, but now seeing the dynamic here with regard to religion, I would think that religion or lack of it does indeed play a significant factor in the decision to commit to BYU. It is true that McMahon and Detmer came to BYU as non-LDS (as did Robbie Bosco), but that was when BYU was second to none in developing quarterbacks, and, in the case of Catholic McMahon, he nevertheless viewed BYU as a consolation prize because he couldn't get Notre Dame to take him. Also, Utah was essentially a non-factor in the recruiting wars at the time due to their relative lack of success. Now, for BYU to get top non-LDS talent, they either need to specifically want to be at BYU for the environment as was the case with Jamaal Williams, or be entirely overlooked as was the case with Hoffman. Incidentally, I also thought KVN was not LDS, but have been told by more than one person that in fact is false; one commentor said he knew personally from Nevada that KVN was indeed LDS.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    June 19, 2013 3:40 p.m.

    Duckhunter - I don't think that it is fair to say that because a recruit is non-Mormon that religion is the deciding factor. Two of the best QBs in BYU history came to campus as non-Mormons -- Ty Detmer, Jim McMahon. Ty ended up converting, but Jim did not. Jim wasn't exactly a "Sunday school boy" while on campus in Provo. Pretty sure the Y's best returning player, KVN, is not a member of the church. Is Cody Hoffman? Jamaal Williams? (yes I get you were referring to Utah kids - but these names drive home the point).

    I don't need to go through the long list of good LDS kids that play or have played at Utah or Utah State because you already know them. I'm missing something - unless you are just trying to carry on a debate with Chris B - in that case - you two should carry on . . . The rest of you -- nothing to see here, move along.

  • MurrayMike Murray, UT
    June 19, 2013 2:48 p.m.

    @ Chris B

    Yeah the mighty Pac 12 and a bcs conference. How's that PAC-12 treating you Chris? Oh you say 7-11 the past two years, wow what a powerhouse the uTes. lol

  • Naval Vet Philadelphia, PA
    June 19, 2013 2:21 p.m.

    AZUTE1:

    "As part of the class, the Utes will add Pine View offensive lineman Logan Stott (ranked No. 3)..."

    Neither the DNews nor the SLTrib really spoke much on the Logan Stott issue, so I still don't know...

    Rivals shows him as having signed his LOI with Arizona, but I've heard other rumors that he hadn't. So what's his deal? Do you know if he will be eligible to play in the Fall, or will he have to sit out until 2014? Might there be any mission plans? What can we expect out this kid?

  • Aloha Saint George Saint George, Utah
    June 19, 2013 1:30 p.m.

    Are there kids in Utah that can play well for BCS schools? Absolutely. Many programs are bringing in Utah because they are good athletes but also come from stable homes. This equates to stability for the team. A lot of schools are looking to Utah as a recruiting option. Will he do well in Wisconsin?? This is unchartered turf. The main problem I see is how these kids will respond to being so far away from home. Hard from families to come watch and be involved; especially in such a pro-family community. BYU is not looking as much in state as out of state for recruits.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 19, 2013 1:18 p.m.

    "When was the last time UTAH beat byU for a top LDS qb?"

    Does Jake Heaps count? "LOL"

    Go Utes!!

    Where is Fangupo??

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 19, 2013 1:09 p.m.

    Reno - I know all about Chris B. I was just giving you guys a hard time because, although he didn't use the letters "byU" in his post, we all knew what he was thinking. I was just joking too. It was with "tongue firmly planted in my cheek".

    UteLusters: "Chase chose Utah because BYU was honest enough to admit that they wanted him to play defense. Kyle, on the other hand, is well known for switching his QB's to defensive, regardless of what he promised while they were being recruited."

    I find that line of thought quite funny. To outright state that Roscoe is honest and Whitt is a liar, and that is the only reason Chase committed, just makes me chuckle. You obviously have no actual information about how Whitt dealt with Chase. Your views are just conjecture and byU spin. I have talked with Mrs. Hansen personally, and so has my brother (who is a stanch byU fan), and her views on Whitt and the Utah staff are exactly opposite of yours. I tend to trust her judgement a tad more than a jealous kewg with an agenda.

    Go Utes!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 19, 2013 12:51 p.m.

    AZUte -- remember Danny Almonte? I think the same principal applies here. There is a reason he dominated in the little league world series. Where is he now?

    It would have been very nice for Utah to get Kafentzis on the team, but he would never have played at QB. Blechen is a prime example of what Whitt can do with high school QBs. My guess is that he never plays a meaningful down at QB for Wisconsin. He will be like Cooper Bateman at Bama, mired in the depth chart. I still think Bateman will be a successful QB, just not at Bama.

    Go Utes!!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 19, 2013 12:40 p.m.

    @uu32

    That he is non LDS matters because the presumption is that a non LDS kid will not want to attend BYU. Maybe you don't read other utah "fans" comments here about "sunday school boys" or that BYU cannot get non LDS athletes? Well that means a kid like Kafentzis is unattainable to BYU so what Kafentzis does is of no matter to them, according to utah "fans".

    utah on the otherhand has no honor code and can recruit drinkers, fornicators, dope smokers, etc. to their hearts content, or at least kids that have no religious aversion to those things. When a recruit like that is sitting right in utah's backyard it is imperative they get that kid and don't allow him to run off to the SEC or the Big 10.

    As for bateman being 5th string at alabama, let's be honest, 5th string at alabama is 1st string at utah especially when we look at utah's abysmal qb recruiting and performance over the last several years. utah needs bateman and kafentzis so not getting them is a blow.

    When was the last time utah beat BYU for a top LDS qb?

  • AgVikBronc Preston, ID
    June 19, 2013 11:08 a.m.

    Mitch Jessop,

    Just curious why you have such animosity towards your hometown Aggies? Your comments about Wisconsin being a better choice pretty much applies to all three major in state schools or Weber (no need to even mention SUU) so why only single out USU? You seem to like to take a shot at USU every chance you get and I'm just curious why the sour grapes?

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 19, 2013 11:03 a.m.

    Duckhunter,

    I wonder what it feels like to have a graduating class that never knew it was like to beat your rival.

    the byu 2013 class is about to find out!

    LOL

    0-4

    How embarassing

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    June 19, 2013 10:55 a.m.

    Duckhunter - Cooper Bateman is at Alabama, not LSU. He's also sitting at about 5th string QB and Bama just recruiting another kid

    Why does it matter if the kid is Mormon or non-Mormon?

    It's not a blow to either BYU or Utah. Unless both are looking for defensive back depth.

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 19, 2013 10:48 a.m.

    @lloyd braun

    Your "frantic and emotional" attempt to try and claim azute is a BYU fan was the funniest post on this article. You utah "fans" are in full blown meltdown mode over this.

    LOL!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 19, 2013 10:45 a.m.

    @azute

    Do you spend even one half of a second thinking about the stuff you post before you post it? Kafentis did not spend the last 2 years being a 16 year old beating up on 14 year olds, he was the VARSITY qb for the last 2 years so he spent both of those years beating up on 17, 18, and 19 year old VARSITY players. So even if he is older he was at minimum playing against kids his own age or a year or 2 older than him, not kids younger than him. Your "frantic and emotional" attempts to falsely claim otherwise not withstanding.

    The utah "fan", like you and christina's, attempts to downgrade this kid because he spurned utah and the pac12 are really funny though. Please keep it up as your obvious angst supplies me with no end of delite.

    LOL!

  • Duckhunter Highland, UT
    June 19, 2013 10:35 a.m.

    This means nothing to BYU but it is a definate blow to utah. This is the kind of kid utah must get, an instate non mormon national recruit.

    The fact is that as this state grows in population there will be more good athletes and more good recruits and a good portion of them are going to get offers from out of state schools. utah needs to get kids like this, he is exactly what they must have, and this is the 2nd one in 2 years they have lost. Let's not forget the kid from cottonwood that picked lsu. When a non Mormon national qb recruit comes out of utah then utah needs to get that kid, not lose him to an out of state school. And let's not ignore the fact that neither of these kids went to another pac12 school, they blew utah and the pac 12 off completely and went to the SEC and Big 10.

    Yes this is a blow to utah.

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    June 19, 2013 9:41 a.m.

    This is not a loss for BYU or Utah. Kafentzis is not a big time talent and would have likely changed position at either the Y or the U. He's undersized and is the product of a system (sound familiar BYU fans? - I'm sure he has grit and would be willing to cover kickoffs in practice). He will put up big numbers the next two years in high school, but I will be very surprised if he ever takes a live, first team snap for the Badgers.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 19, 2013 9:06 a.m.

    RE: AZUTE1

    "Kid will be 20 entering college and to those scouting him, he's well-built, strong but the feel is he's done growing vertically."

    Any ideas on why the "scouts" feel that way. He just turned 17 and most experts say that men grow until they are 18-21 and sometimes until age 25. At 6'1" and 195 lbs he's already big enough to play as a D1 quarterback, but I suspect he'll tack on another inch or two. I don't know if he really needs to bulk up, he already can bench 340 and squat 500 lbs. That's more than adequate for a quarterback. His 4.42 forty time isn't half bad either.

    Also, kid won't "be 20 entering college," he'll be 19 and turn 20 after his freshman season has concluded... you should probably do a little research before spouting off.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 19, 2013 8:56 a.m.

    Kid will be 20 entering college and to those scouting him, he's well-built, strong but the feel is he's done growing vertically.

    Hence, not the loss for UTAH/gain for WISC Twitter indicates.

    Of course, he could be a few years out of H.S. working in The DFWI Airport as Dennis Rodman was and--

  • Ernest T. Bass Bountiful, UT
    June 19, 2013 7:54 a.m.

    Will he serve a mission? If he serves a mission maybe we can get him back when he comes back.

  • EdGrady Idaho Falls, ID
    June 19, 2013 7:52 a.m.

    What? I thought the Pac-12 team in Utah was slurping up all the top talent. I guess you need more than a Pac-12 patch to be relevant.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 19, 2013 7:31 a.m.

    05/08--

    “The players and coaches treat me like I’m already a part of the team. (Utah) just feels like home. It’s also a big deal because the campus is just 30 minutes from my house. It felt like home to me,” Havili told UteZone.com after his commitment.

    Kearns athlete Amone Finau is another committed player who earned a scholarship offer after standout performances in last summer’s camp circuit. Like Havili, Finau valued the opportunity to play in front of friends and family.

    “The U. has a good program and it’s close to home, so family can come watch me,” Finau told UteZone.com around the time of his commitment in July of last year.

    ----Not to mention Kenyon Frison. DS might opt to stay home and become a homegrown-legend playing for the state's premier football program, too, as playing for UTAH and against the week-in, week-out competition our conference of champions affords us, is obviously second-to-none.

    These are the types of kids we've targeted from Day 1, within our process of building-up the talent/depth required! GO UTES!!!!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 19, 2013 7:21 a.m.

    More from 05/08--

    "The class of 2014 is shaping up to continue the trend of Utah’s in-state recruiting success. Jackson Barton is No. 61 on the Rivals.com national recruiting radar, the state’s top prospect in 2014 and a Utah commit. He is regarded as the best football prospect to come out of the state of Utah in the last decade and is the type of player that will not only anchor the Ute offensive line when he arrives on campus, but will help attract more elite talent.

    One such player Whittingham hoped Barton would attract is Stansbury defensive tackle Allan Havili, another in-state recruit with multiple offers from out-of-state BCS conference schools. Havili was dominant at last summer’s All-Poly camp, and caught the attention of coaches from Arizona, Wisconsin and Hawaii, but the opportunity to play close to home in front of friends and family was too much to pass up."

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 19, 2013 7:18 a.m.

    sammyg
    Springville, UT
    LOL

    B-b-but I thought all the BCS caliber talent in Utah was lining up to play 'big boy' ball at the U?

    From 5/8 DNews article--

    "Utah is executing its strategy very well in preparation for the coming years. In the recruiting class of 2013, the Utes landed five of the top 10 players in the state of Utah as rated by Rivals.com. As part of the class, the Utes will add Pine View offensive lineman Logan Stott (ranked No. 3), Bingham defensive tackle Lowell Lotulelei (4), Cottonwood tight end Siale Fakailoatonga (5), Brighton linebacker Uaea Masina (6), and Alta tight end Harrison Handley (7) to their roster.

    By way of comparison, in-state rival BYU only landed two of the state’s top 10 players — receivers Talon Shumway (9) and Inoke Lotulelei (10), with only Shumway holding an offer from the Utes. Utah State didn’t land any players on the list, despite its successful 2012 season. Utah’s recent recruiting dominance over its in-state rivals is a trend that would have been unthinkable a little more than a decade ago."

  • Lightening Lad Austin , TX
    June 19, 2013 5:07 a.m.

    BYU is loaded as far as future quarterbacks are concerned. Tanner Mangum out of Idaho, the MVP of the Top 11 camp/competition will step in when Taysom Hill finishes. To have a soph QB solidly in place gives you three years of stability other teams lack and then to have a terrific kid coming in when he finishes is as good as it gets. Billy Green will also be in the mix, I think he has a great upside, and there will be others coming in or already in the program to cover injuries. Best wishes to the young man from Jordan, the Badgers sound like a good home for the guy, and then with two years before he can sign who knows. I suspect Anderson will move his recruiting more toward the Midwest where the numbers are and leave Utah in the rearview. But for now, that's where he has the connections.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    June 19, 2013 12:34 a.m.

    LOL

    B-b-but I thought all the BCS caliber talent in Utah was lining up to play 'big boy' ball at the U?

  • poyman Lincoln City, OR
    June 19, 2013 12:29 a.m.

    It's a mistake... A decision made on impulse... He should have waited till he finished all the camps and focused on the 2013 season... He probably would have ended up with alot more offers and he would have had a chance to evaluate the programs who did offer a little more closely than he has...

    I wish him the best, but my hunch is that he won't finish his college career with the Badgers.

  • Uncle Sam West Jordan, UT
    June 18, 2013 11:24 p.m.

    He will make an excellent defensive back for the Badgers!

  • Cougar Passion Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2013 11:14 p.m.

    @Down under: I couldn't tell you about Utah's recruiting, but BYU offered him *very* early. Given that I didn't hear any mention of him being LDS, I suspect BYU figured their only chance at landing him was based on the early offer. Of course, that's a gamble, but it doesn't mean they would have had to stick with him at QB if he didn't pan out--we only have to refer to Jake Heaps for that.

  • lloyd braun ogden, utah
    June 18, 2013 10:50 p.m.

    AZUTE 1
    I really don't know what the heck your comments even mean. I've watched Jordan K. 5 times live, and I don't care what age he is in relation to everyone else, he is one of the most impressive "high school" players I've ever watched. As a "16 year old" freshman as you say, he wasn't competing against 14 year olds, he was dominating 18 year olds. What is your point? The growth potential? Oh, so all the 19 yr. old freshmen out there are done learning. Please try to make sense if you're going to comment. I'm a Ute fan, but don't wish the kid bad luck because he didn't go to Utah. That's what is annoying about BYU fans like yourself. He let you down somehow? What a great opportunity for a "19 yr. old" from Utah. I hope he wins a national championship. That's if he can beat your Cougs.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 18, 2013 10:20 p.m.

    AZUTE:
    "Anyway, you're being contrary for no reason at all, but just simply for the heck of it. I'm not biting beyond my 2 rhetorical-questions above".

    Lol, I was actually just ribbing you and poking fun. You obviously took it too serious. Enjoy your night as well.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 18, 2013 10:08 p.m.

    My words--

    "It's said he's a decent all-around athlete, but not widely considered to be top-tier talent as a QB."

    Outside of the state, he has offers from 2 other UTAH Coaches, UH/UW.

    Again, ENORMOUS difference between 16-14/17-15, whether you openly acknowledge this irrefutable-fact or not. This is the advantage he's had over the past 2-years.

    Hey, I could proclaim the sky is blue on any given day it happens to be blue, and I'd have people surfacing left-and-right, insisting it's black, orange, etc., any color other than blue! :)

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 18, 2013 9:54 p.m.

    RE: AZUTE1

    What are you talking about? The "gist" of your post was clearly that Austin is not, as you said "a top tier talent". My response refuted that claim. I didn't say anything about age because I don't deem it as relevant as you do. Whether he's 18, 20, or 22 when he starts college he's projected to be a major talent, which is why is he is receiving so much recruiting attention now, after his sophomore season. Once he's given stars/rankings and breaks a few more records this attention will only intensify.

    Now you do bring up a valid point about his athletic ability, as judged by your friends, the "recruiting-insiders" (still no actual sources). I haven't seen him play so I can't contradict you (or them), but sports writers seem to be really high on him. Whatever the case, I'm glad we got him.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 18, 2013 9:47 p.m.

    "Do you also love your BYU coaches, Kyle Whittingham and Aaron Roderick? After Utah has a rough season again, maybe we can welcome them home as DC and WR coach...we would be more than happy to see the prodigal sons return."

    Have you forgotton Coach KW's sentiment expressed recently right here on this website? How about AR's abrupt 180 recently on bm/byu?

    Anyway, you're being contrary for no reason at all, but just simply for the heck of it. I'm not biting beyond my 2 rhetorical-questions above.

    Enjoy your debate and the remainder of your evening tonight, either way!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 18, 2013 9:31 p.m.

    @Wiscougarfan--

    Par for the course.

    I suggest you going back and re-reading what I wrote and not presuming my intent to be what it's not. You didn't catch the entirety of my gist.

    Yours actually supported his older age....There are recruiting-insiders who know him personally and confirm his hype stems from being not only quite talented athletically, overall, but being at an age where 2 years is a significant leap [i.e., 14-16].

    They feel, based upon his stature, that he won't grow to the extent he needs to and how most incoming FR do as 17-18 Y.O. And they feel his numbers are misleading because of both factors, but especially his age.

    Not certain why anybody would find 2 years during this crucial growth-period in a kid's early life to be insignificant?

    Anyway, these people who actually do this for a living don't feel his future lays at QB, but rather elsewhere.

    Your choice to see it other than a 16 Y.O. kid dominating 14 Y.O.s.! LOL

    p.s. FYI--Coach GA is a fellow-UTE of mine. Think about it.

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 18, 2013 9:28 p.m.

    AZUTE:
    "I love my fellow-UTE, Coach GA..."

    Do you also love your BYU coaches, Kyle Whittingham and Aaron Roderick? After Utah has a rough season again, maybe we can welcome them home as DC and WR coach...we would be more than happy to see the prodigal sons return.

  • talkinsports Gilbert, AZ
    June 18, 2013 8:37 p.m.

    Hondo

    "Anyone who has been on these boards for any amount of time knows that Chris B is a BYU fan trying to make Utah fans look bad."

    You obviously don't recognize a significant portion of Utah's fan base.

    Chris B. is a classic BYU hater / Utah fan, who roots for Utah mainly as a foil for BYU.

    As for Kyle promising one thing, then doing another, don't hold your breath on Chase ever starting a game at QB for the Utes, especially if Kyle manages to recruit somebody better than Hays before before Chase returns from his mission.

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    June 18, 2013 7:08 p.m.

    "My concern for Kafentzis is playing for Andy Ludwig. He has proven time and time again he really isn't a BCS caliber OC."

    I didn't know he was at Wisconsin. That further solidifies in my mind how much Wisconsin will struggle this year.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 18, 2013 7:00 p.m.

    RE: AZUTE1

    "This kid was 16 as a freshman and will be 19 as a senior. From what I've heard, he'd be a nice-to-land type, but not a show-stopper to lose. It's said he's a decent all-around athlete, but not widely considered to be top-tier talent as a QB."

    I'd love to hear who your sources are. All I've read (DeseretNews, Sports Illustrated, MaxPrep) indicates otherwise. While he's not yet rated by scout, rivals, and ESPN (because he's only a sophomore), he has a 4.42 forty time, can bench 340 lbs, has a 35 inch vertical, and is on track to break several Utah state football records (in addition to the state record he already holds for the javelin). It's no surprise that MaxPreps, who named him the national freshman and sophomore player of the year, have him ranked as the #30 HS player (as a sophomore). He was on USA today's all-america second team this year and is seeing interest by all the big boys (Alabama, USC, Florida State, Oregon, Texas, etc.). I don't know how much more "top tier" one can get.

    Go Badgers!

  • Striker Omaha, NE
    June 18, 2013 6:22 p.m.

    "Is there any question who was the best college football coach in the state of Utah the past 5 years?"

    You've got to be kidding. How many losing seasons did he have in one of the easiest conferences? How many did others have their first few years in a conference rated above BCS conferences? Yeah, when he had losing seasons, Bronco had 10 win seasons. Anderson is very unproven. Wisconsin was very average last year and most of their good talent from that team is gone. Getting bowl eligible will be a good season for them. This isn't the WAC anymore, this is the big time. Besides the two patsies to begin the season, the only other wins might be Illinois and Indiana. 5 win season for Wisky this year.

  • Wayne Rout El Paso, TX
    June 18, 2013 6:17 p.m.

    Coach Anderson is going to be a fine at Wisconsin. I wonder if he will be ooaching there when this prospect is a college freshman. Why did he did not consider the PAC 12 & Utah? Maybe Anderson will be at Utah in 3 years?

  • UtahUte16 Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2013 5:59 p.m.

    I don't blame you for wanting to play at Wisconsin. Camp Randall is a place I'd like to visit eventually. Good luck kid.

    As a former javelin thrower, I wouldn't risk your college football career by continuing to throw. So many people mess their arms up throwing jav. You already took state, just focus on getting a stronger football arm. I hurt my arm my senior year and it's never been the same.

  • Northeast Kingdom Portland, OR
    June 18, 2013 5:54 p.m.

    Not surprising that Andersen is recruiting players out of Utah. He spent a great deal of time there, and is probably very familiar with the current crop of high schoolers. Assuming he stays at Wisconsin for a while, I would expect this down the road in 4 or 5 years.

    My concern for Kafentzis is playing for Andy Ludwig. He has proven time and time again he really isn't a BCS caliber OC.

  • Snack PAC Olympus Cove, Utah
    June 18, 2013 5:52 p.m.

    AZUTE1

    "And it's becoming a well-known fact that UTAH's H.S.-Talent has been improving over the years..."

    Unfortunately for U, talent alone doesn't guarantee success as we saw last season with the first of many PAC 12 era seasons ending without the Utes being good enough to play in a bowl.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 18, 2013 5:47 p.m.

    This kid was 16 as a freshman and will be 19 as a senior. From what I've heard, he'd be a nice-to-land type, but not a show-stopper to lose. It's said he's a decent all-around athlete, but not widely considered to be top-tier talent as a QB. He'll be 20 when he enrolls in college and has essentially maxed-out his growth-potential. He's dominated significantly younger kids while in H.S.

    He'll end-up elsewhere, other than at QB. In terms of offers, to date all 3 in-state schools offered, along with Hawaii/WISC, per Scout.

  • Hondo Scottsdale, AZ
    June 18, 2013 5:37 p.m.

    Busta,

    Anyone who has been on these boards for any amount of time knows that Chris B is a BYU fan trying to make Utah fans look bad. It's painfully obvious. Yet you and others continue to fall for it. Sooner or later, you'll catch on.

    As for claiming that Kyle promises one thing and then does another - please substantiate your claim with cold hard facts. Neither speculation nor conjecture stand as evidence.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2013 5:26 p.m.

    Gamer,
    Utah would still not compete in the PAC11+U with the kid. Does anyone know if was recruited haevily by either bYU or Utah?

  • canadiancougar624 Provo, UT
    June 18, 2013 5:23 p.m.

    @VegasUte

    They were joking cause he only ever comments on BYU articles!

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 18, 2013 4:52 p.m.

    I love my fellow-UTE, Coach GA, but for those suggesting he's successfully raiding all of UTAH's top-tier talent, this article only mentions 2 kids. I was under the impression UTAH had double-digit top-tier recruits?

    THE U is going to get the vast majority of these in-state kids, it's the other in-state schools which'll be negatively-impacted by Coach GA/WISC, NOT THE U.

    And it's becoming a well-known fact that UTAH's H.S.-Talent has been improving over the years and this is being recognized by more and more top-tier schools, other than Coach GA/WISC, nationwide.

  • uteBusters Park City, UT
    June 18, 2013 4:33 p.m.

    VegasUte

    "must be lost here, and I NEVER defend Chris B, but I don't see any mention of BYU in his post."

    It's quite obvious to anyone who's seen Chris B.'s endless spamming of every article even remotely connected to BYU, that his post, though only implied this time, is just another weak dig at BYU.

    Chase chose Utah because BYU was honest enough to admit that they wanted him to play defense. Kyle, on the other hand, is well known for switching his QB's to defensive, regardless of what he promised while they were being recruited.

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    June 18, 2013 4:26 p.m.

    VegasUte
    I was poking fun at Chris B because he is usually the very first to comment on any article that has even the remotest chance of being about BYU directly or him making it about BYU and giving him a chance to bash them!!! So my comment was with my tongue firmly planted in my cheek!!! I am a Cougar fan first but have family and friends that like and support the Utes so I root for them except when they play BYU!!!

    Go Cougs!!!
    GO Utes!!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 18, 2013 4:01 p.m.

    I must be lost here, and I NEVER defend Chris B, but I don't see any mention of byU in his post. Yet, Gamer and Reno post as if he did. Is that a conditioned response? Now that I've said that, his next post will probably be a poke directly at byU.

    I wish the kid luck. We'll see over the next two years whether or not this was a good pickup by GA. Hopefully, he'll be as good as advertised.

    Go Utes!!

  • dhsalum Saint George, UT
    June 18, 2013 3:06 p.m.

    I seriously wonder what all the Wisconsin fans over there think of Andersen bringing in Utah players. From what I've heard and read, most BCS-level programs dont consider Utah HS recruits anywhere near their level. Not that these 2 are not good enough, I think they are, but I wonder what fans in Wisconsin are thinking

  • Hondo Scottsdale, AZ
    June 18, 2013 2:53 p.m.

    Even though Andersen has moved on to the BIG 10, he is coming in and stealing recruits. Somebody's got to put an end to that. Pronto.

    Obviously, Utah being in a "big boy" conference isn't enough and all the "exposure" BYU gets, its "national legacy brand," and its "internationally-renowned fanbase" isn't cutting the muster, either.

  • Down under Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2013 2:48 p.m.

    he should do well at Wisconsin.
    Long live the BCS, well at least for this year. Next year we will have to come up with something new for Chris to crow about.

  • YBALL Provo, UT
    June 18, 2013 2:39 p.m.

    Maybe when we beat Wisconsin this year he'll change his mind to the join the best PROGRAM in the state of UTAH.

    LOL

    GO COUGS

  • FB Fan #2 Grantsville, UT
    June 18, 2013 2:31 p.m.

    Wisconsin is a pretty good fit for this kid. Good Dual-Threat Quarterback too, can't wait to see what numbers he puts up the next 2 years.

  • Reno Cougs Fan 68 Reno, NV
    June 18, 2013 2:28 p.m.

    Chris B
    You must be lost this article has nothing to do with BYU! Why are you reading and commenting on this article? By the way haven't you heard the news, the BCS is dead!!! It has been replaced!!! I thought only BYU fans lived in the past!!!

    Go Cougs!!!
    Go Utes!!!

  • Stang08 Cedar City, Utah
    June 18, 2013 2:23 p.m.

    Way to make a great decision kid. If you were thinking about USU when he was there it may not have been as good for you. You have a shot to be on a national championship team now. If you went to USU you'd only have a shot to be on a team that wins the Potato Bowl. I think we all know which is the better senario.

  • gamer PROVO, UT
    June 18, 2013 2:13 p.m.

    Yeah Chrissy B.

    Its true that BYU wanted Chase Hansen very bad, BUT only as LB because he wouldn't have be able to compete in a passing offense with the likes of Mangum and Co. I was surprised Chase didn't seriously consider Air Force or Navy seeing that he had an uncanny ability to run the ball.

    Chase is a great athlete- I for one just won't be surprised if we see him playing on the defensive side of the ball when he returns from his mission.

  • Wiscougarfan River Falls, WI
    June 18, 2013 2:12 p.m.

    We're thrilled to have you Austin. Welcome to Badger nation!

  • gamer PROVO, UT
    June 18, 2013 2:05 p.m.

    This is just the beginning of recruits that Gary Anderson is going to steal from the Utah Schools. I respect him as a coach but wish he would stay off our turf so Utah would have a chance to compete in the Pac-12.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 18, 2013 1:47 p.m.

    Great choice to attend a prestigious BCS program.

    We would have liked to have you, but with Chase Hansen among others in our pipeline, you will likely get more opportunity at playing time elsewhere.

    After Whittinham and other dropped the ball the last couple years at the QB position, we're pretty stocked there for now.

    Good luck kid,

    fellow BCS program University of Utah Utes

  • Cougsndawgs West Point , UT
    June 18, 2013 1:37 p.m.

    Is there any question who was the best college football coach in the state of Utah the past 5 years? I think top Utah HS players committing to Wisconsin only affirms what we already know. Gary Andersen did more and got more out of his players than any other coach in the state during his tenure here.