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Published: Monday, June 17 2013 6:45 p.m. MDT

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BlueCoug
Orem, UT

I hope Bronco signs a new 3- to 5-year contract soon.

Informed Voter
South Jordan, UT

When Gary Crowton was let go, he received a large buy out payment. I think it was reported as $500,000. At the time I figured the Board of Trustee members were likely not happy with that. At the same time, the Men's Athletic Director also was sent packing. My guess is there was a connection with that untypical BYU contract. So for what it is worth, I do not see BYU giving Bronco such a deal.

PMSmith
SANDY, UT

Yes - He is a UTAH Man!!

PMSmith
SANDY, UT

Yes - It takes a UTAH Man to get all that done!!

Riddles in the Dark
Olympus Cove, Utah

Waiting for a new president to be announced makes some sense, but I'd prefer to see Bronco's contract renewed as soon as possible.

BYU DUDE
Provo, UT

This BYU fan says ,

Let Bronco Go Into that Dark Night he Can be Replaced !

Vladhagen
Salt Lake City, UT

I think that this does bring up a good point. I think that truly what is going on is that they re waiting for a time when they can announce the contract with more gusto and press.

SLC BYU Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

I really hope the BYU community will appreciate the job Cecil O. Samuelson has done throughout his tenure at BYU. It is a VERY difficult job being the "go between" those senior brethren who desire to freeze or even contract or furulough a program and then telling faculty deans and directors no to post-graduate program expansion. This can and often is a hapless job in acadamia, especially at a school like BYU with as much faculty scholarship skills and ability, as well as an undergraduate studentbody any big AAU research school desires to have.

As for Athletics, if BYU were to drop its football program then the likely scenario is Utah Valley University starts one. It would not help Utah State one ioda.

Vladhagen
Salt Lake City, UT

Why is it that people somehow have the idea that the "Brethren" want to ax football? BYU has no desire to become an androgynous school with no sports or mascot! And besides, you cannot pay for as great of advertising as playing on ESPN. PMSmith......yes Cecil was born in Utah. You have made a very astute observation.

canadiancougar624
Provo, UT

What are we going to say after BYU makes a free throw at basketball games if Cecil retires?? :O :O :O

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

SLC BYU Fan
"This can and often is a hapless job in acadamia, especially at a school like BYU with as much faculty scholarship skills and ability, as well as an undergraduate studentbody any big AAU research school desires to have."

AAU schools already have that and byu is not a research school. Keep dreaming...LOL!

"...if BYU were to drop its football program then the likely scenario is Utah Valley University starts one. It would not help Utah State one ioda."

So, if byu drops it's football program (won't happen IMO) your contention is that UVU would start a football program to fill the need. Is that correct? You base this theory on what? That byu fans want a football program and UVU is located in Utah Valley so UVU will start a program? You do realize that UVU is a state school and an extension of byu, right? byu fans should be getting used to hearing...'we don't care what you want.'

Whoa Nellie
American Fork, UT

PMS, yes Cecil went to utah. Nice of you to acknowledge that. You probably don't realize that Utah's head football coach and others on his staff are BYU men. Does that mean takes a Cougar to bring recognition to the U? BYU supporters don't really care about President Samuelson's credentials as much as you might, but he has done an excellent job so far and we're happy about that. My point is, neither of us have a point.

Esquire
Springville, UT

Samuelson has been a great President. A welcome change to the immediate predecessor. HOwever, what's the point of this column?

Marked it Down
Park City, UT

MyPerspective

two words: reading comprehension

BYU is classified as a High Research University by the Carnegie Foundation.
Utah is classified as a Very High Research University.

Interestingly, however, in the most recent 2011 Report of Top American Research Universities:

National Merit and Achievement Scholars

BYU ranked 30th with 76 scholars
Utah ranked 112th with only 17 scholars

The Top 200 Institutions – Median SAT Scores

BYU ranked 109th at 1240
Utah unranked, didn't even place in the Top 200

Malihini
Northern, UT

Just another article from Mr. Harmon that makes no sense. Saying that the school is waiting to get a new president before it extends a contract to Bronco is saying that the football program at BYU is so important, more important that building construction, school expansion, faculty employment, etc. that it has to wait for a new president to sign off on the deal. No way! First of all, it is the Board of Trustees that run the university and bring consistency to the school through administrative turnover. They are the ones that dictate the existence of the entire athletic program.

To say that President Samuelson is waiting to be replaced is to suggest that he is shortsighted, which is hardly the case. It is just not the way BYU, nor any large institution goes about it's business. Mr. Harmon should know this. This article seems to me to be a dig at BYU from a frustrated beat writer who has a great "love-hate" relationship with the school.

WON84
PLANO, TX

"SLC BYU Fan

Salt Lake City, UT

I really hope the BYU community will appreciate the job Cecil O. Samuelson has done throughout his tenure at BYU. It is a VERY difficult job being the "go between" those senior brethren who desire to freeze or even contract or furulough a program and then telling faculty deans and directors no to post-graduate program expansion. This can and often is a hapless job in acadamia, especially at a school like BYU with as much faculty scholarship skills and ability, as well as an undergraduate studentbody any big AAU research school desires to have.

As for Athletics, if BYU were to drop its football program then the likely scenario is Utah Valley University starts one. It would not help Utah State one ioda."

As a non-practicing LDS BYU fan, I think Samuelson has done an excellent job at what is a difficult job for the reasons you listed. I don't understand the resistance to expanding post-graduate programs at BYU though - Maybe they could put a stop to the large number of graduates heading to the devil's layer in Berkeley and Palo Alto. Just a thought.

CougFaninTX
Frisco, TX

Mendenhall is probably on a surf board somewhere. Signing a contract is not at the top of his priorities for Summer, nor is it the top priority for Cecil. I believe a contract will be signed before the season begins, but there are others who think the brethren will wait to see how the season goes. Let's face it, the entire O coaching staff was let go. The head coach has to have some accountability for the poor production of the offense also. If the offense struggles again, we may not see a new contract for Bronco.

I normally wouldn't read or comment on an article like this, but we're in the doldrums of Summer starved for anything we can read about college football.

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

Marked it Down
There is clearly an enormous difference between a high and a very high research institution. What do you suppose the criteria is for such a distinction? That must mean that UVU is classified as a research institution. Sure, why not! Every school in the country conducts surveys. That's research. Well done, byu...well done indeed!

As for the faculty, I guess I would have to ask what their role is and what type of research they do. If they are as talented as you want to believe, why aren't they at a "very" high research institution? It would be interesting to know in what field they have achieved "scholar" status. It can make a big difference regarding the institution they are at.

54-10
Salt Lake City, UT

Sign Bronco for 20 years - PLEASE.

BlueHusky
Mission Viejo, CA

Re BYU's graduate programs: I was on the faculty at Yale (1970s) when the AAAS journal Science had a front page article on BYU's strategy for funding. BYU would not accept government funds directly, but filtered them through an external non-profit organization. This was intended to insulate BYU from direct government oversight and interference. When my daughter matriculated at BYU in the early 1990s, they explicitly described the program as focused toward undergraduate education. I have no professional contact with BYU so I don't know what the focus is, but BYU has emerged as a major player in business, finance, computer science, etc. These fields typically do not seek funding from government sources.

Not having a medical/dental school precludes much medical research and the vast funding available. Their basic physical and biological science teaching is very well respected and they do offer Ph.Ds in those fields. BYU grads have a better than average acceptance rate into professional schools and grad schools around the country.

Basic science is hard to fund (see high energy physics, for example). I suspect that BYU will continue with their undergraduate focus.

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