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Published: Sunday, June 16 2013 8:40 p.m. MDT

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Curmudgeon
Salt Lake City, UT

"In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established." 2 Corinthians 13:1.

Give it up, Mr. Swallow. You too, Mr. Shurtleff.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

Are the swallow apologists going to continue to attack the dnews and other media outlets calling them LIBERALS and describing this as a "witch hunt?" Or are they finally going to drop the charade and join the rest of us in reality? It's pretty obvious that Swallow and Shurtleff were acting unethical, completely corrupt, and criminal.

To me, the question isn't who should step down but who is going to jail?

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

"In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established." 2 Corinthians 13:1.

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Bang on!
Agreed!
I was thinking the exact same thing.

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt
Beverly Hills, CA

So according to the logic of some people, if you are LDS and Conservative you can do no wrong because everyone will blame the "liberal media" for your wrongdoings. All Swallow and Shurtleff need to do now is proclaim they are being persecuted for being religious men being persecuted by evil forces. Wake up apologists, you have been duped by the people who claim to stand for values.

Mainly Me
Werribee, 00

Where there's smoke....

stevo123
slc, ut

@ Real Maverick, The apologists have now got the full backing of the famed and feared Eagle Forum phone tree! Gayle Ruzicka has weighed in!

Esquire
Springville, UT

The mere fact that the AG and his side kick were hanging out with a felon who was again under scrutiny is beyond the pale. Talk about corruption. This must be cleaned up now. Where are the leaders in our state? Where will we find integrity in this cesspool?

FatherOfFour
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

@The Real Maverick

Exactly! It always drives me nuts when a politician gets caught doing something illegal he risks losing his job. If I get caught doing something illegal, I go to jail. And I don't get to handpick my replacement either.

crbullseye
Saint George, UT

I'd bet that the far right Utah legislature won't impeach Swallow, I do think they will give him a standing ovation and hugs from Gayle! The leadership in this state is extremely weak and spineless, oops my bad just business as usual for the conservatives. Vote independent!!!!

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

Three CREDIBLE accusers might be believable. But these three are not at all credible.

The two new guys both worked directly for convicted felon Jensen, and while that may put them in a position to know something, their former boss could probably "tell prosecutors some interesting stories about their involvement in his own misdeeds, ya know?"

The punch line for this entire charade is given away in the story: "Jenson’s attorneys are now asking a 3rd District judge to disqualify the entire attorney general’s office from prosecuting him..." That is their strategy.

As for the Democrat politicians' high dudgeon and indignation, let's just admit that this is a great way to discredit Republicans and try to get a Democrat elected. They love all this free publicity and campaign advertising and will encourage it all day long.

Honest people will wait for the investigations to see if Swallow did anything wrong. It is immoral to try him in the biased media, which poisons the jury pool if there are any charges ever actually filed (as opposed to self-serving cheap shots).

Repeating a lie a million times does not make it the truth.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

The response from both Swallow and Shurtleff has been to "consider the source." Why, then, would they have meetings, discussions, go to fancy resorts, and anything else with the "consider the source people?

If they were that dumb, then how did they get elected or vie for elections, continually?

All elected Utah top officers potentially have involvement in this process as they have avoided the big questions and decisions as money flows around them from the same sources.

AlanSutton
Salt Lake City, UT

I'm not troubled (so far) by the allegations against Mr. Swallow and Mr. Shurtleff. After all, they are public figures and should expect such things. Besides, the ones making the allegations are for the most part untrustworthy or have been concocted with those untrustworthy people by way of employment. However, I can't understand why two men like Swallow and Shurtleff would involve themselves - in any way - with convicted felons like Mr. Jenson. They should know better.

As for the question of impeachment, the Legislature should not go there. They should let the current investigations run their course before taking such drastic action. That will be difficult for them because they need to be perceived as people who take action; but they are best off resisting those instincts. Sometimes we just have to live with our votes, at least until the next election.

juni4ling
Somewhere in Colorado, CO

If Swallow did wrong, then lock him up...

But the "two witnesses" work for the current convict...

If Swallow did wrong, then lock him up...

But I am taking the word of a convict with a grain of salt. He is in Prison for lying. A Judge and Jury (twice) decided that he is a swindler and a common modern robber.

Of course the swindler (and his employees) are going to say that he was wronged by Swallow...

Find me someone with no personal stake in the matter who is willing to call-out Swallow...

But right now you have the word of a (twice convicted) swindler and his "two witnesses" employees. Swallow might not look good in a court of public opinion with so many convicts who don't like him...

But if the only word against him is the word of a twice-convicted swindler, and the swindlers employees...

Swallows political enemies can jump on the word of a two-time convict (and the convicts employees)...

But if the only word against Swallow right now is a (two-time) convict...

Don't judge me for not taking the word of a swindler and jumping on the bandwagon...

dlw7
LOGAN, UT

A very famous poet said, "Oh what tangled webs we weave, when first we practice to deceive". This is a "tangled web" if ever there was one and finding the truth will be a difficult thing as lying and deceit are 2nd nature for some people in politics.....or life in general for that matter.

k-Hud
Provo, UT

From Websters:
Definition of SHYSTER
: a person who is professionally unscrupulous especially in the practice of law or politics

Ding Ding Ding! we have some winners folks!

I need a shower simply after reading this article! :)

Shelama
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

The qualifications and credentials satisfactory to get elected as AG in Utah are pitiful

wendell
provo, UT

"As for the Democrat politicians' high dudgeon and indignation, let's just admit that this is a great way to discredit Republicans and try to get a Democrat elected"

As a Liberal, I will gladly admit that, as soon as all the Conservatives who are bending over backwards to defend these men will admit that if Shurtleff and Swallow were Democrats, that the Republicans would be up in arms over the obvious misdeeds and clear lack of ethics.

Cincinnatus
Kearns, UT

Here's a few questions that need to be asked by those still fiercely defending John Swallow (that means you DN Subscriber 2):

Have these two employees of Jensen been convicted of, or implicated in, any wrongdoing? If not, why are their sworn statements not considered credible? Just because they worked for Jensen? If the tables were turned and they were testifying against Jensen and defending Mr. Swallow, would you suddenly believe them?

Why were the AG (Shurtleff) and his "heir apparent" (whether as fundraiser or as chief deputy) spending so much time with individuals (Jensen AND Johnson) if these men were either convicted or under investigation for possible crimes? Why were they spending time, either with them at posh resorts (California) or using their expensive property (Lake Powell), if they were criminals or even alleged criminals?

Why is Swallow, who represents the government (or was about to), giving legal advice to, advising for, or putting "fraudsters" in contact with lobbyists, who could help them when dealing with charges or potential charges coming from the government?

I would think the credibility issues have to be applies to both sides. Swallows' associations don't seem to help his credibility issues.

mightyhunterhaha
Kaysville, UT

Ignore the Eagale Forum! They do not represent Utah. They are a bunch of zealots that hold the puppet strings of many elected officials. The legislature needs to do the right thing for once. Swallow now has to contend with a personal lawsuit. He cannot effectively represent the State. Since is is unwilling to step down and save the State; the legislature needs to remove him from office.

AC_68
Provo, UT

Jon Swallow ?
He's still around?

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