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Published: Sunday, June 16 2013 5:15 p.m. MDT

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Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

West of I15, UT

To borrow a phrase from my Utah friends (yes, I have many), "what have you done lately?"

Take your smack and go sit in a corner. Keep repeating to yourself, "we MIGHT go to a bowl game, we MIGHT go to a bowl game."

Sometime before 2020.

Las Vegas, NV

I love you Mildred!!

Layton, UT

We Might beat Utah in football, We Might beat Utah in football. lol.

The Big 10 Might call, The big 10 Might call. lol.

Independence wasn't a Mistake, Independence wasn't a Mistake. lol.

Go Utes!

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

@ Rockwell

The numbers are very similar. I noticed you left out the head to head comparison. I'm sure it's just an oversight.

@ Y Grad

No kidding, I mean Utah has only been to a 9 of the last 10 years.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT


Speaking of trends....

I find it amusing that Cougar Nation sees an irreversable trend in one missed bowl game for the Utes....

Yet, they see no trend at all in having lost three in a row and eight of the last eleven to Utah.


Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

Y Grad

You act as if going to a bowl game is a given. You may want to take a look at your schedule before popping off. Six wins is far from a gimmie; especially the way both Utah and BYU played last year; and especially considering this years schedule(s).

West Point , UT

@Nav Vet
"So essentially, Whittingham trumps mendenmidmajor both in "quantity" of wins, and in "winning rate/percentage". Do you see what happens when you start getting all frantic and emotional again? You get embarrassed."

Please see my post to Howie before this post of yours. I was counting ranked opponents, not BCS opponents, and apologized for the error. I was also counting wins against ranked opponents at the time of the game which I indicated. See what happens when you post before you read?...now who's embarrassed?

"Bronco has beaten 0 BCS opponents ranked in the final polls. While I disagree with your count of records against BCS opponents... the point stands that Whit has a winning record against BSC teams and Bronco has a losing record".

Correction, he beat Oregon State who was ranked 18 in the final BCS polls of 2009. While we're at it the only BCS team ranked in the final BCS poll that Whit beat was Alabama.
I also didn't include Louisville or Pitt as BCS opponents on Utah's schedule (an oversight on my part which exposes my bias against the big least ever truly being a BCS conference...again my mistake).

West Point , UT

I'm sure that ND also notices the trend with Boston College having owned them over the last decade. However, as long as ND is going to championships and ending seasons ranked while BC is not, why should they care? No difference between BYU and Utah. Grats to Utah for beating BYU lately, but "Cougar Nation" is more concerned with the overall performance of their program. This is just another example of how it's really BYU fans that have "moved on" and give much less regard to Utah than the other way around.

East Salt Lake City, Utah

@Rockwell: "Kyle had a great year in 2008, but has done precious little before or since."

I guess these teams disagree with your analysis:

"Utah's Whittingham reportedly was offered Tennessee job" -- USA Today

"Utah football: Whittingham on Miami's target list" -- SL Trib

"ASU Coaching Search Stalls: Kyle Whittingham To Stay In Utah" -- Seth Pollack (SB Nation)

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA


"See what happens when you post before you read?...now who's embarrassed?"


As for myself, I DID notice that you had backpedalled a bit with Howard, but I hadn't read your recantment at the time I responded. That said, there was nothing inaccurate about my post, whereas yours was a frantic and emotional, grossly overstated, and utterly inaccurate statement, so don't go and try to turn this around on me. I was "right". You were "wrong". Ergo, YOU are the embarrassed one who's having some difficulty in getting the taste of his own foot out of his mouth.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA


Notre Dame has 4 in a row vs. Boston College, and 4 out 5 since 2005. They are 4-4 vs. each other over the last 10 years. Not sure how that equals "getting owned"?

West Point , UT

You feel better now? Lol. Breath, don't hyperventilate.

East Salt Lake City, Utah


Final BCS ranking don't take into account bowl games. So what's your point?

Unlike Boston College, Utah was ranked a top 10 program the last decade by CBS Sports. I guess that's what happens when you finish ranked 6 times (with two top four finishes).

West Point , UT

Naval Vet:
Do you feel better now? I find it humorous how much you call everyone else emotional, yet you seem to be the most emotional person on here...it's entertaining though, so don't stop posting.

West Point , UT

Spokane Ute:
Over the last 10 years BC is 6-4 against ND, but won those 6 games 6 years in a row. 5 out of those 6 years the Irish ended the season ranked higher and with a better record than BC. The point is ND wasn't concerned about losing those 6 in a row because they were the better team the majority of the time. Also those 4 in a row that the Irish have recently won were close games except the 31-13 win ND had.


Utah fans,

Thanks for your fascination with everything BYU, especially your temper tantrum like anger about BYU leaving the MWC for independence.

Baltimore, MD


Bronco was also reportedly pursued/interviewed by Colorado, Arizona State, and UCLA before he withdrew his name from consideration.

Other teams pursuing Kyle still doesn't change the fact that Bronco has out-performed Kyle 5 of the 8 years they've been head coaches; that Bronco has a better record and that Bronco has more Top 25 Finishes

AP Top 25 Finishes
Bronco 4
Kyle 2

AP Top 15 Finishes
Bronco 3
Kyle 1

Top 25 Finishes AP or Coaches
Bronco 5
Kyle 3

Conference Championships
Bronco 2
Kyle 1

Overall Record
Bronco 74-29
Kyle 70-32

Bowl Games
Bronco 8
Kyle 7

And, while Utah fans pretend that only the winning side of the ledger counts, let's not forget:

Losses to 10-loss Teams
Bronco 0
Kyle 2

Losses to conference bottom dwellers:
Bronco 0
Kyle 6 (Colorado, New Mexico(2), Wyoming, Colorado State, UNLV)

Losing Seasons
Bronco 0
Kyle 1


Watch out. Naval vet is going to make sure nobody gets too "emotional." Yet he will capitalize and place exclamation points and degrade and demean and write phrases like, "end of story!" I echo the comments from a previous poster. You make occasional good points but they are blurred by your hatred toward your church school. Go figure.

West Point , UT

LOL! I'm really having a bad day. I shouldn't post while I'm at work. I was going between schedules between ND and BC and it's actually the other way around. BC had better records and was ranked higher than ND 5 out of those 6 years in a row...so apparently there is no point, and I'm just going to quit posting when I'm working...lol, I've even confused myself.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

Actually, BC is 4-4 over the last 10 years; they didn't play in 2005 & 2006. Over the last 12 years; they are 6-4. So BYU isn't concerned about losing to Utah because they think they were the better team? Really? What in the world makes you think Notre Dame wasn't concerned about losing to their rivals 6 times in a row? Now I've heard it all! That's pretty cool knowing what the Notre Dame and BYU football programs think! What a talent.

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