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Published: Sunday, June 16 2013 5:15 p.m. MDT

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Springville, UT

I always chuckle at the Utesies for running down the very bowl games that Commissioner Larry Scott negotiated for his sixth and seventh place teams.

Sure is disappointing when you don't go bowling in these 'third tier' custom created bowl games huh?

I've said it once, I'll say it again... Had there been a Laramie Bowl in late January, Utes would have been proud to have gone... if they could have won enough games. LOL

Marysville, WA

@Elmer Fudd
"Why don't you try and read and comment on Utah only articles. You'll be surprised how many Utah-haters you'll find on those articles! Sorry, but hating goes both ways not just Utah fans hating BYU!"

Because I don't give a flying rip about the U, and I can't imagine wasting time trolling their stories. If we never play Utah again, that would be just fine with me.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

@Just Truth
Saratoga Springs, UT

Did I say 5 times?

Oh, and as for Utah's tough PAC12 schedule... did you know that Bronco has a losing record against BCS teams?

East Salt Lake City, Utah


BYU will be bowling and Utah won't.
BYU goes 11-1, 12-0 they're in a big bowl.


You mean like in 2001?

"BCS denies Cougars; BYU headed to Liberty: A 12-0 record, top scoring offense proves not enough"

I think BYU has a better chance of ending their 40+ years of discussions with a "Big 12" invite then getting a "big bowl".

West Point , UT

CO Ute:
I agree. How an article about Utah's "former" rival, and a team Utah fans "don't care about" could garner so much crimson attention is beyond me. As with most of their lives, the ute trolls are living in some fantasy where they believe BYU is no longer a rival and no longer their concern, yet show up without exception on articles about BYU to resoundingly prove otherwise...hilarious and sad at the same time.

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

Howard S.

"Major college football is defined by... and will continue to be defined by the five power conferences..."

Unfortunately for U, the only relevance U have in one of those five power conferences is as a punching bag for the big boys of the PAC to pad their conference win totals.

Your conference may be a "power broker", but you're nothing but a bottom feeder, forced to live in the reflected light of programs that have actually accomplished something in the PAC.

Wins over PAC opponents with winning records: ZERO
Losses to PAC opponents with LOSING records: TWO

The fact that you're here trying to minimize the bowl accomplishments of a team that actually won a bowl game against a pretty good opponent last season speaks volumes for just how irrelevant U really are.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

Marysville, WA

"If we never play Utah again, that would be just fine with me."

Amen... and Amen.

Utah shouldn't be granting BYU a BCS game... much less on a home and home basis.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

Pretty good opponent???

Please.... it was San Diego St.

But the truth is that BYU has a great record against the mid-low/major WAC/MWC.

When BYU plays the big boys of the BCS it has a losing record.

Let's see how the Cougs do against a schedule that isn't padded with WAC cupcakes.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

@Snack PAC
Olympus Cove, Utah

Speaking of relevance, how will you claim Cougar relevance when the five power conferences split from the NCAA to form an elite division excluding the likes of SDSU and BYU?

Marked it Down
Park City, UT


Did you know that Kyle is 7-11 in the conference and hasn't beaten a single PAC 12 team with a winning record since joining the conference?

Utah can't even beat the little boys of the conference - two losses to PAC teams with losing records including a home loss to 10-loss Colorado, one of the worst teams in the country.

FOUR of BYU's five losses last season were to Top 25 teams, 3 of them by a combined 10 points on the road.

FIVE of Utah's seven losses last season were to UNRANKED teams, 4 of them by 10+ points.

The USC team that easily handled the Utes in RES, was overpowered in the Sun Bowl by the same Georgia Tech team that BYU destroyed on the road.

West Point , UT

"But the truth is that BYU has a great record against the mid-low/major WAC/MWC.
When BYU plays the big boys of the BCS it has a losing record."

And this makes them different from Utah how? Bronco has a better record against BCS and ranked opponents than Kyle W. Were you trying to elevate Utah's status with that comment, or just testing how your foot tasted?

Anaheim, CA


"Pretty good opponent??? Please.... it was San Diego St... the truth is that BYU has a great record against the mid-low/major WAC/MWC."

LOL at your frantic and emotional spin.

The truth is Utah is only 17-12-1 all-time versus SDSU, while BYU has dominated the Aztecs 27-6-1.

In 2012, the Aztecs(9-4) tied for the MWC championship and, unlike the Utes, SDSU actually qualified for a bowl. While the Utes were getting CRUSHED by Washington 15-34, the Aztecs were actually competitive against the Huskies, only losing 12-21 at Washington. Also unlike the Utes, the Aztecs beat a Top 25 team, #18/#14 Boise St. 21-19.

Anaheim, CA

"Speaking of relevance, how will you claim Cougar relevance when the five power conferences split from the NCAA to form an elite division excluding the likes of SDSU and BYU?"

IF that happens, the Utes will become nothing more than the Ole Miss of the PAC, the Indiana of the BlG or the Iowa St of the Big 12 - a perennial losing team and conference bottom dweller that will never play in another bowl game again.

The Deuce
Livermore, CA

I have a unique idea for the Cougars: Win and you will have a choice of bowl games. Keep on the same path as last year and we will be talking about this same topic next year. Take a page out of the Boise State play book - win!

Billy Budd
Saint George, UT

If BYU plays a bowl game in California, Arizona or Texas, in Dec/Jan etc., it's all good.
Getting to watch any fb in Dec/Jan takes the sting out of Dec/Jan weather even in Saint George.

LaMont Levi Hansen
Provo, UT

I suspect you will see conferences go away and with our fanbase and national reputation we'll start signing exclusive agreements with the cream of the crop of the SEC, Big12, and PAC12--our bowl games every year will be BYU vs. Alabama, BYU vs. Oregon, BYU vs. Oklahoma. Also, we have a better football program than everyone in the PAC except for Oregon... that's really why we were excluded.

Palo Alto, CA

bottom line:

16 photos celebrating BYU's exciting Poinsettia Bowl win over SDSU.

0 photos of Utah's couch potato bowl.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

West Point , UT

Bronco has a better record against BCS and ranked opponents?

Uhhh Nooooo.... Making up your own facts again?

In 36 games against BCS opponents Whit has a 56% record with two victories against teams ranked in the final polls.

In 26 games against BCS opponents Bronco has a 46% record with no victories against teams ranked in the final polls.

The amusing thing is that with a losing record against the BCS the Cougar Nation thinks that the Cougars will sail through a schedule with six BCS games like it was the typical WAC heavy schedule.

If history holds BYU will lose 3-4 of the BCS games plus Boise and then have to struggle against Utah St. Houston, and Nevada just to qualify for a 3rd tier bowl game.

Howard S.
Taylorsville, UT

LaMont is a true visonary.

Beck to Harline
Provo, UT

If only the DNews could disable comments until a year after an article is written. Maybe then all this pathetic bickering wouldn't exist..

Utah knew the first few years in the PAC would be rough. BYU knew that the first few years of independence would be (contingently) filled with WAC opponents.

Everyone shut your PC/Mac down and wait until the dust settles. Both sides have their respective Pitt's ('84 and '04)/Michigan's (once again, '84 and '08)/Oklahoma's that seem like quality BCS-title contenders before the season ends.

Hindsight is 20/20.

Foresight is well......apparently perfect.

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