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Published: Thursday, June 13 2013 12:30 p.m. MDT

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jsf
Centerville, UT

The FBI branded them terrorists, the FLA has claimed responsibility for numerous attacks, the NSA has claimed they have stopped many terrorist plots from their spying, and yet no one has been caught or prosecuted for conspiracy to commit acts of domestic terrorism. They emailed and mailed how many copies?

A Guy With A Brain
Enid, OK

Article quote: "Anonymous animal rights activists have published a “guide to destroying the fur industry,” which lists numerous Utah fur farms as targets. The publication, titled “The Final Nail #4,” is associated with the Animal Liberation Front, a group known for extreme animal rights actions against fur farmers including vandalism, arson, harassment and raids during which thousands of furbearing animals are set free."

Are these the nice, unconditionally loving, "let's all hold hands and sing Kumbaya together" liberals I keep hearing about?

I mean, I hear about 'em.....I just never see 'em.

Now, I ask you....is my comment "uncivil" or is the behavior this group exhibits "uncivil"? I'd catch these thugs and let them rot in jail, surviving on bread and water until they realized that A) they have NO right to destroy other peoples' property and B) that animals were made for the benefit of man and not the other way around.

How long, Lord, how long?....

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Not that I agree with their tactics but what's the point of the fur industry? It does seem rather crude to kill animals just to add a fur collar to a jacket for nothing more than vanity.

DN Subscriber 2
SLC, UT

Some terrorists are more equal than other terrorist groups.

Obviously, since ALF targets evil right wing capitalists and fur wearers, they are more like "freedom fighters" to the leftists in the Obama administration.

I think we can see that not a darn thing will actually be done to track down and prosecute the ALF terrorists. No IRS audits, no phone taps and surveillance. No harassment by the EPA or BATFE.

Sadly, not mush more gets done to Islamic terrorist groups. But, those scary "tea party" types, they seem to get the full treatment.

Stalwart Sentinel
San Jose, CA

ALF/ELF = true stewards of the planet. Thank you.

hermounts
Pleasanton, CA

Why do you even put the word terrorist in quotes? And, do those people really think the minks, etc., can survive in the wild? They have been bred for fur, so why should they be left to die for nothing?

Aggielove
Cache county, USA

What material are burkenstokes made from ?

coleman51
Orem, UT

Although I do not agree with the tactics of ALF, I have no sympathy with the mink industry in Utah. They frequently have their farms in residential areas that create a smell and extremely unsanitary conditions within the adjoining neighborhoods. Little care is taken of the creatures and many die in those conditions. They do escape frequently, creating a menace to neighborhoods. The market for mink is extremely limited and has zero impact on our economy. They are, in essence, a public nuisance that should be eliminated anyway. It would be preferential if they are eliminated by statute, but I can totally understand why any animal rights group would seek their elimination also.

plainbrownwrapper
Nashville, TN

@Aggielove --

"What material are burkenstokes made from ?"

You can get them in leather or non-leather.

I was a vegetarian for years. It's not terribly hard to find leather-free shoes.

taxed2death
Sandy, UT

@coleman51
They frequently have their farms in residential areas that create a smell and extremely unsanitary conditions within the adjoining neighborhoods. Little care is taken of the creatures and many die in those conditions. They do escape frequently, creating a menace to neighborhoods. The market for mink is extremely limited and has zero impact on our economy.

The mink farms were there first; your homes intruded on them. As for "the market for mink is extremely limited and has zero impact on our economy" shows your ignorance. The market has never been stronger, one of the few industries exporting 90%+, mostly to China and Russia while repatriating hundreds of millions of dollars that you spend at Wal-mart. They pay taxes and provide jobs, and unlike other agricultural industries, they receive no subsidies. How many jobs have you created?

HaHaHaHa
Othello, WA

"It does seem rather crude to kill animals just to add a fur collar..."

Not too me! I kind of like the idea! Why don't you leftists just take a page out of your own predictable, nutjob, response manual, that you usually consult, in response to conservatives. That would be...if you don't like the ides of using fur, then don't buy it! Don't hunt it! Don't use it! Keep your morality to yourself! Don't try to push it onto everyone else! Enough said!

plainbrownwrapper
Nashville, TN

@taxed2death --

"while repatriating hundreds of millions of dollars that you spend at Wal-mart."

You're exaggerating just a bit there.

The gross sales for the US mink industry were $230 million in 2011 (the 2010 crop of furs). That's **gross**, not net. I don't know what their profit margin is, but the net can't be all that high. Certainly not "hundreds of millions."

Incidentally -- between 1990 and 2011, the number of mink farms reporting to NASS fell from 771 to just 268.

Bob Pomeroy
Bisbee, AZ

why all the inflammatory self-righteous comments? can't it just be wrong, without adding on Obama, leftists, especially everything to the left of the uber right, etc? what's wrong with wrong. how long Lord, how much longer indeed.

Cato
Spanish Fork, UT

The comment about these farms being in residential areas just drives me nuts. That perspective scares me. It's called urban sprawl and is why we're losing so much farm ground. You think these farmers want to be next to any people? You encroached on them. Same thing with people building their homes next to dairies or canals -- they were there first! These farmers generate great economic activity locally and regionally. I don't wear fur, but that doesn't mean I have to destroy someone's property because they do. No respect. Those ALFers should be put in jail.

GreenerJulie
Quebec, 00

I don't understand. When did animal rights trump human rights? Did I miss something? Because it sounds to me like the ALF is urging their followers to commit felonies, and to destroy the livelihoods of their FELLOW Americans. Guess what guys? These PEOPLE are hardworking farmers who contribute big dollars to rural economies. And what does the ALF contribute?

Do you know what is going to happen to these ALF followers when they get caught? They are going to learn first hand what its like to spend life in a cage. Its called jail.
Just another way that the ALF and other terrorist animal rights groups ruin it for everyone else who is concerned about animal welfare, but are not criminals.

Rynn
Las Vegas, NV

I've seen how some places treat the animals used for furs and it's downright horrific.
I just think it's cruel and unnecessary. We are no longer in a time where animal skin is the only way to keep warm.

Redshirt1701
Deep Space 9, Ut

To "Stalwart Sentinel" how are they good stewards of the environment. They are unleashing a surplus of minks into areas that lack the animal population for the minks to survive. So, rather than the mink being being killed humanely, they are going to either starve to death or be killed by larger predators.

Think of your yard, would you be considered a good steward if you planted invasive species of plants in it and stopped caring for it. That is what ALF/ELF do, they release animals into environments they are not prepared for, then do nothing to care for those animals.

plainbrownwrapper
Nashville, TN

@Redshirt --

"They are unleashing a surplus of minks into areas that lack the animal population for the minks to survive. So, rather than the mink being being killed humanely, they are going to either starve to death or be killed by larger predators."

Believe it or not, I agree with you here 100%.

No matter what one's views are in relation to fur farming, releasing animals into the wild like this is a deeply stupid thing to do. Aside from the economic damage it causes the farm owner, it causes a vast amount of suffering as those released animals starve to death and/or get eaten by predators and/or eat native animals and/or get hit by cars, on and on ad infinitum.

**And** it damages the environment by introducing non-native animals into the local ecosystem.

It's a bad idea all around.

If you oppose fur farming, oppose it through legal and rational means. Don't go doing stupid things like this just to make yourself feel better.

nomoretaxes
Draper, UT

If the farms need any help patrolling the area I'll volunteer to help hunt down little elf sitters

A Guy With A Brain
Enid, OK

@ "Stalwart Sentinel - San Jose, CA - ALF/ELF = true stewards of the planet. Thank you."

Hey, 'Stalward Sentinel'...YOU be a 'steward of the planet'....while you also destroy your neighbors.

I'LL be a good steward towards my neighbors. And in the process I'll become a good steward of the planet, too.

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