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  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    June 17, 2013 12:39 a.m.

    Bluto

    #Hartzog held offers from Arkansas State, Texas State and from Iowa.
    No stars....two stars.

    Where is the false bravado now, Chris B?"

    Iowa STATE....And he's a 3-Star per 247, while not yet ranked by Scout, which I suspect will similarly issue a 3-Star ranking for him....Nice try.

    Byu clearly has the market cornered on 2-Star recruits....Good times.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 16, 2013 4:38 p.m.

    @CougFaninTX

    Please tell me which of your commits had an offer from Alabama.

    -----------

    I believe the comment was that Utah has in-state recruiting "battle" with teams like Stanford and Alabama for top recruits not BYU. Which is a true statement.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    June 15, 2013 11:45 a.m.

    Hartzog held offers from Arkansas State, Texas State and from Iowa.
    No stars....two stars.

    Where is the false bravado now, Chris B?

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 14, 2013 11:31 a.m.

    Phantom and Busters: Yet Utah STILL beat byU for a third straight year.

    Spin away!!

    And this year, with a big-boy schedule (which is STILL easier than Utah's), you will struggle to make your Kraft macaroni and cheese bowl, while Utah will return from it's one year aberration.

    But thanks for showing your support for all things Ute!! We love the little-brother obsession. It's so entertaining!!

    Go Utes!!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    June 14, 2013 9:19 a.m.

    @Redute365 - "UTE recruiting is BLOWING UP ! Utah is the ELITE team in this state. Overtaking BYU the past decade. Utah dominates in-state and the only battle we have is with Stanford, Alabama, UCLA etc."

    Please tell me which of your commits had an offer from Alabama.

  • Suhyun Ogden, UT
    June 14, 2013 7:40 a.m.

    Utah doesn't go to bowl games anymore....and apparently that's a selling point for this one.

  • DrUte Woods Cross, UT
    June 14, 2013 6:26 a.m.

    Msg to Bobby: Pls don't take any of the comments here personally. None of these bloggers know you, but all of passionate about their team & seem to believe any sort of history is indicative of future results on the field, which of course we all know is not necessarily the case.

    What IS the case is that you can carve your own future at Utah. One example of CB success in the PAC12 is USC's Nickell Robey, you should check him out on the Internet. He's a cornerback, and was 5'8" tall and 165 lbs when he checked in. He has the speed you have, and worked hard at his skills, to the point where eventually teams avoided his side of the field. I believe he was elected to be a Team Captain there, a well-deserved honor.

    Not much space here to embroider any additional details, but like Nikell at USC, rest assured you will have the facilities, coaching, and opportunity to succeed at Utah.

    So welcome to the Utah family! Have a blast, work hard, and enjoy what will most likely be a very memorable time in your life.

    It's GREAT to be a Ute!

  • uteBusters Park City, UT
    June 13, 2013 11:16 p.m.

    VegasUte

    "Sorry, I mistakenly lumped Hawaii in with the WAC instead of the MWC. I guess Hawaii will always be a WAC caliber team to me."

    It's laughable that a team that only managed to win two WAC championships during 37 years in the conference would be looking down it's nose at the WAC, especially when U LOST to the only WAC team U played last year.

    Utah's WAC record versus Hawaii: 5-9.

    You're not even WAC caliber.

  • Uteology East Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 13, 2013 6:36 p.m.

    Picking the Utes over the Cougars (regardless of location) is always a great choice.

    Welcome kid to the Ute Nation!

    Go UTES!!

  • phantomblade Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 13, 2013 6:21 p.m.

    VegasUte

    Here's a recap of your "third" best team in Utah:

    - unranked since joining the PAC 12
    - hasn't beaten a PAC 12 team with a winning record yet
    - finished with a losing record and no bowl after losing to the only WAC team U faced
    - 1-0 versus No Colo (lol)
    - only played two ranked teams, and lost to both
    - barely beat Colorado(1-11) 42-35
    - finished #61 in Sagarin (BYU was #26)

    Summation: as disappointing as BYU's season was, Utah's was far worse.

    While BYU was at least respectable in losing to three ranked teams on the road by a total of 10 points (including the San Jose State you're laughing at), Utah spent the season losing to unranked teams.

    A lucky 3-point win at home over BYU was your only win versus a team with a winning record.

    Not at all worried about Bronco, but the Utes have been in steady decline since 2008 and Kyle's seat could be getting very warm if he finishes with another losing record and no bowl.

    Go Cougs!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 13, 2013 6:18 p.m.

    Sorry, I mistakenly lumped Hawaii in with the WAC instead of the MWC. I guess Hawaii will always be a WAC caliber team to me. Doesn't matter though, still one of the many patsies byU played with last year.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 13, 2013 5:44 p.m.

    midwacsecondtier - yet your mighty kewgs are still 0-3 (54-10 last time at LES) and are getting out-recruited by this "supposedly" horrible team. AND, you are here on the Utah stories. Does not smack of confidence!!

    Here's a recap of your "second" best team in Utah:

    - 1-2 against the PAC (only win against Wassu, who Utah annihilated)
    - 1-1 against the MWC (.500 against the conference you traded for irrelevance)
    - 4-1 against the WAC (congrats on the NMSU, Hawaii and Idaho wins!!)
    - 0-1 against ND
    - 1-0 against GT
    - 1-0 against Weber St (Huge!!)

    Summation: One good win at home against USU. One marginal win against GT. A loss to a "bad team", Utah. Loss to San Jose St (LOL)! Losses to all other decent teams. And 6 wins over a bunch of patsies.

    And you are bragging? Can't wait for your first real schedule this year. Say good-bye to the Kraft Bowl!! Bronco better get that extension BEFORE the season starts, because Mid, Sammy, IRS Agent, etc., will be screaming for his job!!

    Go Utes!!

  • Wookie Omaha, NE
    June 13, 2013 4:50 p.m.

    I recently read that this guy outran Usain Bolt and actually lapped him in the 100m dash. In addition, he can supposedly dunk from the half-court line. There is a You-tube video where he actually catches a RPG missle mid-air. He is the best recruit ever!

    GO UTES!!

  • midpacmajor Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 13, 2013 4:39 p.m.

    Redute365

    "Utah is the ELITE team in this state."

    bwahahaha!

    Remind us again which bowl U played in last year.

    You're all talk, but no walk. In two full seasons, U haven't beaten a single PAC 12 team with a winning record.

    BYU beat USU which beat U, but the #16/#17 Aggies(10-3) were clearly the best team in the state, followed by BYU(8-5), with the lowly Utes(5-7) bringing up the rear.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 13, 2013 4:35 p.m.

    PACute - Pot, meet kettle!!

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    June 13, 2013 4:13 p.m.

    This kid will take us to our NC. He will also compete for the Heisman trophy along with many other trophies that will fill our trophy cases.

  • Redute365 SLC, UT
    June 13, 2013 3:33 p.m.

    UTE recruiting is BLOWING UP ! Utah is the ELITE team in this state. Overtaking BYU the past decade. Utah dominates in-state and the only battle we have is with Stanford, Alabama, UCLA etc.

    GO UTES !!

  • PACute_ Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 13, 2013 2:28 p.m.

    VegasUte

    Simply calling out Utah fans for their laughable crimson-colored inconsistency.

  • SUNNY ALL DAY Saint George, UT
    June 13, 2013 1:49 p.m.

    @Tom in CA

    "...blah, blah, blah...".

    Thank you for your usual articulate comment.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 13, 2013 1:05 p.m.

    PACute - yet here you are AGAIN on a Utah story.

    Like I said before - thank you for your support and your love for all things Utah!!

    Go Utes!!

  • Danish American Payson, UT
    June 13, 2013 12:03 p.m.

    I get a kick out of all the Ute and BYU trolls on these comment boards. Fact is, I want all recruits at all Utah schools to succeed. The more great programs we have in Utah the more top quality individuals in both skills and character we can attract.

  • PACute_ Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 13, 2013 11:48 a.m.

    VegasUte

    @Riddles: "You based your entire post on what one Utah fan said a year ago about someone that has nothing to do with this story?"

    Riddles' comment simply used ONE example from hundreds of similarly inconsistent comments from Utah fans when it comes to comparing BYU and Utah recruits.

    The exact same recruit praised endlessly by Utah homers after he's committed to Utah, would be labeled a bust by those same homers if the recruit had committed to BYU instead.

    The obsessive need of Utah fans to belittle EVERY BYU recruit is just one more example of the little brother syndrome that rages on the hill.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 13, 2013 11:27 a.m.

    Gone fishing: "A 2 star top recruit at wide receiver who is 5' 10"?"

    This is funny coming from a byU "fan". byU's top WR in their class is a lower rated two star that is 5'8". But Hartzog will actually be a DB.

    Nice try. Come again!!

    Go Utes!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 13, 2013 11:18 a.m.

    Riddles: You based your entire post on what one Utah fan said a year ago about someone that has nothing to do with this story? Wow! What Hartzog has to do with Trammel is beyond me. byU has to thank Utah for byU getting Trammel, though. If Davion Orphey hadn't seen the light and switched his commitment to the better school, like so many have done in the past, Trammel never would have been offered by byU. So, on behalf of Ute Nation - you're welcome!

    Go Utes!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 13, 2013 11:09 a.m.

    Cougar in Texas - I generally don't want to look at cougar stories, most of them don't interest me. So, you justify yours and other byU "fan's" negative comments by the fact that some people post negatively on byU stories? Pot meet kettle!! As far as whether there are more utah "fan" post on byU stories than byU "fan" posts on Utah stories, I highly doubt that.

    @ Agent: You wanted facts about Hartzog and I gave you one electronic time for the kid as a fact. He has posted faster, I just don't know they were electronically timed or not. There is a HUGE difference between electronic and hand timing. But your response it to bring up Dye? Neither this story nor my post is about Dye. What does he have to do with Hartzog?? Now who is responding on emotions?? Of course I don't care that much about Dye, this story isn't about Dye. But, if it makes you feel better: congratulations on getting a fast, 5'8" WR!

    Once again, thanks for coming on board and giving us your love for all things Utah! We truly appreciate it!!

    Go Utes!!

  • Just the FAX Olympus Cove, Utah
    June 13, 2013 10:34 a.m.

    u25

    "Hes rated as a 2 star receiver. Utah wants him as a Corner. when hes reevaluated as a CB he will get a bump up."

    Nothing but wishful thinking; Bobby's 2012 defensive stats:

    Tackles - 0
    Sacks - 0
    Interceptions - 0
    Fumbles caused - 0
    Fumbles recovered - 0
    Punts blocked - 0
    FGs blocked - 0

  • u25 West Jordan, UT
    June 13, 2013 8:38 a.m.

    Hes rated as a 2 star receiver. Utah wants him as a Corner. when hes reevaluated as a CB he will get a bump up.

  • Spokane Ute Spokane, WA
    June 13, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    @BYU Fan in DC

    Thanks for the civil and interesting comment; that Rocks! I thought the same thing myself. If it were my son, I'd at least advise him to wait until after the visit before making such a big move.

    Utah does very well in Texas. They seem to target Cali, Texas and JUCO's; which has worked over the years. Look forward to seeing Hartzog in a Utah Uni.

  • BYU Fan in DC Washington, DC
    June 13, 2013 4:51 a.m.

    good pick up for the U. Strange that he has never been to Utah though

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    June 12, 2013 10:20 p.m.

    Carson,

    I really think you're just fascinated with my deep insights into Ute football and other meaningless stuff.

    Many happy 2-3 star recruits to you. I'm sure USC, Oregon, and Stanford fans are humored at every post you Utes make about the 'superior' recruiting.

    You know I am.

  • Cougar in Texas Houston, TX
    June 12, 2013 9:41 p.m.

    Carson, Vegas Ute,

    Try visiting the comments sections to BYU recruits' articles and you'll see many more Ute fan comments than here lining up to disparage the latest BYU commit. Vegas Ute, you are one of the most frequent.

    It is fair to ask why you apply one set of criteria to your recruits and yet another to BYUs. Had BYU received a commitment from a player with the same credentials as Hartzog, you or your fellow Utah fans would be all over it with comments about how it is only fitting that Texas State was the prime competition since they and BYU (Utah) play at the same level.

    Hartzog may turn out to be a great player, but don't pretend you beat out Oregon, Texas, and USC for him.

  • Carson Provo, UT
    June 12, 2013 8:51 p.m.

    Your obsession with the Utes is truly fascinating Sammy.
    LOL at the Y fans who continue to come to Utah boards seeking validation
    The BYU meltdown continues.

  • Wwwookie Payson, UT
    June 12, 2013 7:58 p.m.

    Welcome to the ute nation Bobby. Lots of Utah secondary in the NFL.
    Obviously Scalley sees that potential in you.

    Go utes!

  • theDailyObserver Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 12, 2013 7:44 p.m.

    @IRS agent:

    "and of course you know he has speed because ......?"

    Because Bobby Hartzog himself says what his 40 time is in the video. Maybe if you had watched the whole thing, instead of instantly jumping to the comment board to troll, you would have picked up on that bit of information too.

    and Riddles my poor fellow:

    Let's keep things in perspective. Utah as a team has speed. byu does not. Bobby is just one of many recruits who is fast. Trent Trammel will be one of only a very few at the y who is fast. Don't worry though, I'm sure the U will gingerly peel the slow y players from the bottom of their cleats after the game come September.

  • Joey K Sandy, UT
    June 12, 2013 7:20 p.m.

    Honestly I was most impressed with his interview. He seems like an intelligent, humble, hungry kid. I hope he succeeds at the next level. It's always refreshing to see a football star who isn't full of himself.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    June 12, 2013 7:08 p.m.

    @VegasUte,

    And 2014 BYU recruit Dye was clocked at 4.48 as a junior, with 15 reps at 225 on the bench (which would have ranked him 10th at the NFL combine this year). So what? Since he doesn't have enough stars or isn't going to the U, those numbers mean nothing to you, because according to you and the hill gang, BYU can't get athletes with speed.

    It is hard to justify an arguement based on emotion versus one based on fact.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    June 12, 2013 7:04 p.m.

    Another 'run of the mill' recruit, sharing a quote from last week's Ute commentary on BYU's latest 3 star recruit.

    So I'm reminded of a famous line from Star Wars... "You're a little short for a StormTrooper."

    I'm sure this guy will single handedly carry the Utes to bowl eligibility.

    Hooray for U!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 12, 2013 6:48 p.m.

    IRS Agent: There are reporting services, other than the Deseret News, that report such things as 40 speed, and have game film. If you need facts to rebut an argument, you don't have to go far to find them.

    FYI - he ran an electronic timed 4.49 40 at the NFTC in Houston. He IS fast!

    Go Utes!!

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 12, 2013 6:32 p.m.

    Tom: "There's always a myriad of excuses why a 2 star player is going to be great at utah"

    And you are here reading them all! Thanks for your support, and come again!!

    Go Utes!!

  • Riddles in the Dark Olympus Cove, Utah
    June 12, 2013 6:28 p.m.

    theDailyObserver

    "Because technique can be taught. Speed on the other hand, cannot. That's the difference."

    What speed are you talking about?

    Utah soft verbal commit Bobby Hartzog runs a 4.46 40 and Utah fans beat their chests about his "speed".

    BYU signee Trent Trammel runs a 4.50 40 and Utah fans like Howard S. say:

    "The best part is he chose BYU over Utah and Boise? He would have been buried in the depth chart at both Utah and Boise... at BYU he's a star."

    Four hundredths of a second is that dramatic a difference?

    Get real!

    The truth is, in the crimson-colored world of the kids on the hill, EVERY Utah commit, regardless of the number of stars, is the greatest thing since sliced bread, and every BYU commit, regardless of the number of stars, would be nothing but a bench warmer at the U.

    The inconsistency of the kids on the hill is laughable.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    June 12, 2013 6:10 p.m.

    @theDailyObserver

    and of course you know he has speed because ......?

    There is nothing in the article or on the video that says what his 40 time is, or what his shuttle drill speed is. I don't know how you could possibly make the evaluation or come to that conclusion. I'm sure it is just that fact that Utah signed him that makes him far superior to anyone that BYU signs. It is hard to accept your arguement when it is based entirely on prejudice and not any facts.

  • IRS Agent PROVO, UT
    June 12, 2013 5:58 p.m.

    So let me see if I have this right. A video with one live play (subject making a couple of downfield blocks), some footage from a couple of scrimmage plays and drills (without a clock to see what the kid's times are)and an anecdotal comment that TCU is looking at him (he doesn't even mention it himself in the interview), all adds up to looking like "a great athlete", a "speedy athlete" and "the real deal".

    If those are the criteria, I believe BYU and every team in the state has a roster full of "great and speedy athletes" that are the "real deal". It's funny how the criteria for evaluating and classifying an athlete is so different depending on which side of the point of the mountain you are looking from.

    Chris B -

    We love your BCS membership. Enjoy it.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 12, 2013 5:53 p.m.

    @unreasonable thinker: "The top kids are going to the power teams in the other power conferences"

    That's debatable. What isn't debatable is that they sure aren't going to byU!!

    Go Utes!!

  • Tom in CA Vallejo, CA
    June 12, 2013 5:51 p.m.

    There's always a myriad of excuses why a 2 star player is going to be great at utah. blah, blah, blah.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 12, 2013 5:45 p.m.

    PAC man and Reasonable:

    How do you make time posting on Utah stories, what with all the tweets that need to be sent to Welker!! LOL

    Go Utes!!

  • theDailyObserver Salt Lake City, Utah
    June 12, 2013 5:34 p.m.

    @ CougFaninTX

    "Why is it? When a 2 star commits to the Cougs, the trail is filled with derogatory comments. But when a 2 star commits to the Utes, it's a good thing?"

    Because technique can be taught. Speed on the other hand, cannot. That's the difference.

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 12, 2013 5:22 p.m.

    Why is it that when a Utah story is posted, CougfaninTX has to make a post? Thanks for showing your interest in all things Ute, though. We appreciate your support!

    FWIW - 247 has him ranked a solid 3 star. It doesn't matter anyway, because in the end, our lowest ranked player in this recruiting class will still be ranked higher than most of byU's, just like last year. Hartzog is rated higher than 3 byU recruits on Rivals, and 4 (of 7) on 247. It's funny the smack talk that comes from byU when ALL of the ranking services have Utah ranked significantly higher than byU, and with less commits.

    Carry on, you byU faithful. We love the entertainment!!

    UU32 - Hartzog was playing behind Corporan last year at DB. He will have more play time his senior year now that Corporan is a Ute! Blazing speed. Love it!!

    Go Utes!!

  • Reasonable thinker Murray, UT
    June 12, 2013 4:11 p.m.

    PAC Mman,
    They are taking what they can get. The top kids are going to the power teams in the other power conferences.

  • Gone fishin Murray, UT
    June 12, 2013 4:07 p.m.

    A 2 star top recruit at wide receiver who is 5' 10"? I hope he can jump because he will be covered by by people just as fast and three inches, or more, taller.
    Does not sound like this is a good fit for success in a so-called power house conference.

  • PAC man Anaheim, CA
    June 12, 2013 4:01 p.m.

    What gives?

    Bobby Hartzog may be an excellent player, but Rivals only rates him 2-stars and Scout and ESPN didn't even rate him, so according to our naval recruiting "expert", Bobby couldn't possibly be any good. Why would the Utes waste a scholarship on a marginal player?

  • UU32 Bountiful, UT
    June 12, 2013 2:57 p.m.

    Must be an under the radar kid, his list of other offers isn't as impressive as some of the other recent recruits. Hopefully his switch from WR to CB will be a huge success. Scalley has a knack for finding great athletes from Texas that do well at the U.

  • ekute Layton, UT
    June 12, 2013 2:22 p.m.

    That Texas recruiting base is getting bigger with our Pac12 membership.

    Go Utes.

  • BlameItOnTheOfficials Cottonwood Heights, UT
    June 12, 2013 2:02 p.m.

    Sounds like a good addition. How is he ranked? 4 stars? 5? I want more details.

    GO UTES!

  • CougFaninTX Frisco, TX
    June 12, 2013 1:18 p.m.

    Why is it? When a 2 star commits to the Cougs, the trail is filled with derogatory comments. But when a 2 star commits to the Utes, it's a good thing?

  • VegasUte Las Vegas, NV
    June 12, 2013 12:55 p.m.

    Scalley is a recruiting beast in Texas!

    Welcome home, Bobby! Welcome to Ute Nation!!

    Go Utes!

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 12, 2013 12:05 p.m.

    Apparently TCU is coming hard at this kid.

    If Gary Patterson and Whittingham both like the kid, that's good enough evidence for me he's the real deal.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    June 12, 2013 12:03 p.m.

    Seems like a great athlete.

    Can never have too many speedy athletes

    Go UTES!