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Published: Wednesday, June 12 2013 8:52 a.m. MDT

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poyman
Lincoln City, OR

@VegasUte...

So then you are saying that if a program (or sport) is shut down by the University for misconduct they can still score high on these measurements??? Sounds like a real accurate Reporting program for determining the Socio-Academic Strength of a University and its Sports Programs...

But then, y'all want to use recruiting points to determine the success or failure of your FB program instead of the actual W-L record so this is probably a big deal for you guys... Congrats.

Unfortunately for you, BYU FB will also out point you in this measurement once the 18 year missionary eligible program kicks in... Just like they have in Track, Softball, Baseball, Mens and Womens Basketball, and beginning this year Football once again...

Good thing you guys do so well in Gymnastics or things would really be tough for fans on the hill.

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

poyman - what I am saying is that it is a club sport - just like it is at byU. They do NOT appear on the APR report. I have no idea what your comments are about, other than to reflect your love for all things Ute!

Go Utes!!

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

Fred44: "The Utah football team scored a 964 in 2011-12, giving it a 962.5 rolling four-year average."

Utah doesn't need to learn anything from USU, we already practice it and are nowhere near close to being in danger. What USU knows about recruiting student athletes it learned from Gary Anderson, who learned it at Utah from the master, Kyle W.

Go Utes!!

VAggie
Bristow, United States

@ Vegas,

Not so fast. USU is doing well because USU invested money into the program. Gary came because of this. Good players came and are coming because of this.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

VAggie:

Andersen came to USU because his options were to be either a Head Coach (in Logan) or a Defensive Coordintor (in SLC).

Head Coach > Defensive Coordinator.

VAggie
Bristow, United States

Yes, that was a factor, however Gary would not have come without the increased commitment of the school. He was given plenty of tools from the school for success.He did well, I wish him well, however I predict USU continues to do well.

Plus your comparison isn't apples to apples. USU's program in the Guy years was far inferior to the U's program during the same period. I think some coaches would prefer to be the D-Coordinator for a team that won the sugar bowl than the HC for a perennial 1-4 win team. The money in the positions are similar too.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

VAggie:

"I think some coaches would prefer to be the D-Coordinator for a team that won the sugar bowl than the HC for a perennial 1-4 win team. The money in the positions are similar too."

Not outside the SEC it isn't. Whittingham raised Utah's DC salary to $500K last year. Pac-12 coaches can afford to do that. Erickson makes $250K. Andersen left after the 2008 season...back when we were in the MWC, so it would not be reasonable to expect Andersen was making more THEN than Erickson is now. Andersen's first contract with the Aggies payed him between $354K to $400K/yr. So no, the money isn't that similar.

USU HC salary > Utah DC salary

Furthermore, even if USU HC salary = Utah DC salary, a "good coach" wouldn't settle for less, but would rather run his OWN team. Andersen is a great coach. Leaving SLC for Logan was the right choice for him. Your gain was our loss. Sitake is a good DC, but not as good as Andersen was.

Go Aggies!

GO UTES!!!

VAggie
Bristow, United States

I'm sure the usu head coach did make more. My point is it comes down to preferences. The money may have been similar enough. And I'm comparing it with Brent Guy, Andersens salary is part of the school putting more money into the program.

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