I'm sure the usu head coach did make more. My point is it comes down to
preferences. The money may have been similar enough. And I'm comparing it
with Brent Guy, Andersens salary is part of the school putting more money into
VAggie:"I think some coaches would prefer to be the
D-Coordinator for a team that won the sugar bowl than the HC for a perennial 1-4
win team. The money in the positions are similar too."Not
outside the SEC it isn't. Whittingham raised Utah's DC salary to
$500K last year. Pac-12 coaches can afford to do that. Erickson makes $250K.
Andersen left after the 2008 season...back when we were in the MWC, so it would
not be reasonable to expect Andersen was making more THEN than Erickson is now.
Andersen's first contract with the Aggies payed him between $354K to
$400K/yr. So no, the money isn't that similar.USU HC salary
> Utah DC salaryFurthermore, even if USU HC salary = Utah DC
salary, a "good coach" wouldn't settle for less, but would rather
run his OWN team. Andersen is a great coach. Leaving SLC for Logan was the
right choice for him. Your gain was our loss. Sitake is a good DC, but not as
good as Andersen was.Go Aggies!GO UTES!!!
Yes, that was a factor, however Gary would not have come without the increased
commitment of the school. He was given plenty of tools from the school for
success.He did well, I wish him well, however I predict USU continues to do
well. Plus your comparison isn't apples to apples. USU's
program in the Guy years was far inferior to the U's program during the
same period. I think some coaches would prefer to be the D-Coordinator for a
team that won the sugar bowl than the HC for a perennial 1-4 win team. The money
in the positions are similar too.
VAggie:Andersen came to USU because his options were to be either a
Head Coach (in Logan) or a Defensive Coordintor (in SLC). Head
Coach > Defensive Coordinator.
@ Vegas,Not so fast. USU is doing well because USU invested money
into the program. Gary came because of this. Good players came and are coming
because of this.
Fred44: "The Utah football team scored a 964 in 2011-12, giving it a 962.5
rolling four-year average." Utah doesn't need to learn
anything from USU, we already practice it and are nowhere near close to being in
danger. What USU knows about recruiting student athletes it learned from Gary
Anderson, who learned it at Utah from the master, Kyle W.Go Utes!!
poyman - what I am saying is that it is a club sport - just like it is at byU.
They do NOT appear on the APR report. I have no idea what your comments are
about, other than to reflect your love for all things Ute!Go Utes!!
@VegasUte... So then you are saying that if a program (or sport) is
shut down by the University for misconduct they can still score high on these
measurements??? Sounds like a real accurate Reporting program for determining
the Socio-Academic Strength of a University and its Sports Programs...But then, y'all want to use recruiting points to determine the success or
failure of your FB program instead of the actual W-L record so this is probably
a big deal for you guys... Congrats.Unfortunately for you, BYU FB
will also out point you in this measurement once the 18 year missionary eligible
program kicks in... Just like they have in Track, Softball, Baseball, Mens and
Womens Basketball, and beginning this year Football once again...Good thing you guys do so well in Gymnastics or things would really be tough
for fans on the hill.
The Aggie football team is improving in the classroom and on the field. Maybe
both the Utes and Cougars could go to Logan and how to recruit athletes that are
APR has been ruining our public schools.Why would the NCAA want such
a time bomb?
@Y Grad / Y DadWrong, you guys make a big deal out of any and every
little accomplishment you can come up with. lol.Go Utes.
ChrissyYet, you come to the boards to be preachy...To
BYU fans.Seems like you have become what you profess to hate.I love how BYU is wrong to set a preachy list of priorities, yet you
come to preach the gospel of utah football as you see it.
@CougFaninTXWhoever it turns out to be, they'll be more
competitive than byu. lol.Go Utes.
And if the numbers DO improve for BYU as the mission age situation begins to
settle, it will be a no-news thing, right?
Poyman - Just as at byU, Rugby is a club sport, so no - you would not see it in
the APR. If the team was to be included in the APR report, my guess would be
that it too would pass with flying colors, just like all the other Utah teams.
Thanks for showing your interest in all things Utah, though. We appreciate
it!!As far as using missionaries as a crutch, or an excuse for low
APR, Utah deals with the same issue, though not to the same degree. I am sure
this problem will be lessened by the reduction of the missionary age to 18.
Most missionaries will go on their mission now before they enroll at school,
which now will have zero negative effect on APR, if I'm not mistaken. If
byU still hovers around 930 in future years, then they will have a problem, and
it cannot be blamed on missions.Go Utes!!
@cb - Just curious, who is your new rival?
Congratulations to ALL programs. Go Utes!!
Not surprised at all that Utah's football APR is so high. Coach Whitt
legitimately cares about each one of his players and knows each of them by name.
I've talked to the man 3 times in my entire life and he didn't even
hesitate to remember my name, my major in school, and where I served my mission.
He doesn't have to say that football isn't his #1 priority because
it's obvious by the way he lives his life that he knows there are more
important things than football.
The Knignt Commission gives BYU a 100% for Men's and women's
basketball and a 100% for USU basketball. BYU gets a high 93.7 for Mem's
football, Utah has inproved to around 40% for football UU played Pitt in the
Fiesta Bowls pundants renamed it the "Shame Bowl" as both teams were
graduating less than 20% of their football players the lowest of any bowl
matchups. The NCAA figures cover fivef years for each athlete meaning that
missionaries are shown as non-grads if they take 6 yrs to complete their
eligibility. That should no longer be a problem with missions before the clock
As someone who is familiar with classes at both BYU and the UofU there can be no
doubt that General Studies at BYU were far more difficult.There were
some classes at Utah that were difficult, but looking at all the classes I took
at both schools I had to work 10x's harder at BYU just to achieve passing
grades let alone a good grade. I didn't take any upper level
classes at the UofU and I have heard they are more comparable to BYU in
difficult, but just looking at the general classes BYU is much more intense and
rigorous to the student.
Way to go utah football - if you can't win at least you can knock out those
killer exams in your General Studies majors.
This might explain why Austin Collie is so desperate to stay in football.Go Utes.
What we learned:Coaches don't need to have a preachy list of
"priorities"Why?Kids can be good students(See
university of Utah), be good in the community(See university of Utah), AND win
BCS games(see University of Utah)Some coaches try to use excuses for
not having won significant bowl games by claiming they focus on other areas.Clearly that does not need to be the case.Utah is the better
academic team.Better football team.Enough said.No
need for preachy list of "priorities"LOL
Wow, BYU really needs to improve its APR. For an academic institution of its
quality, there is no reason they shouldn't be doing a whole lot better than
those scores - especially the football team. BYU's rolling average is scary
close to the probation line.
And consistent with all other things in the FORMER rivalry,Utah
Proud University of Utah utes
Way to go Utah football score of 966 is second in the PAC 12 to Stanford.
Props to you all. Keep up the great work.
I didn't get to see the scores for the Utes Rugby and Diving Team... Do you
To "boost it's score to a...931"Holy smoking ghost!
Mendenhall really has put the schools values into the football program. Hire him
for another 3 and it might get boosted to 929.