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Published: Monday, June 10 2013 4:05 p.m. MDT

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RG
Buena Vista, VA

@ Donn: Just because the word "predestine" is used in some scriptures does not mean that we are predestined for heaven or hell. The context of those scriptures is completely different. In many cases, a different translation for predestine might be "foreordain" in which people are "supposed" to reach heaven, but still have their own choice.

@Craig Clark: You said "Smith also called all other religions "abominations" and "all wrong", with their preachers and professors being "all corrupt", and insisted that the Mormon Church is the "only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth, with which [God is well-pleased]".

Actually, Smith didn't say those things. God did.

The Scientist
Provo, UT

RG wrote:

"Actually, Smith didn't say those things. God did."

Please provide proof.

Actually, realistically, factually... Joseph Smith SAID that god said that.

But if we had a nickel for every time someone claimed that god said this or god said that... well, we would be filthy rich!

donn
layton, UT

RG:Just because the word "predestine" is used in some scriptures does not mean that we are predestined for heaven or hell. The context of those scriptures is completely different. In many cases, a different translation for predestine might be "foreordain" in which people are "supposed" to reach heaven, but still have their own choice.

Strong's Greek 4309 – proorizō. 1) to predetermine, decide beforehand..2) in the NT of God decreeing from eternity.3) to foreordain, appoint beforehand.

In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will .( Ephesians 1:11 NIV,ESV,NET)

he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will—(Ephesians 1:5 NIV,ESV,NET).

‘To affirm free will[to choose God] is to compromise grace”. Martin Luther

Sneaky Jimmy
Bay Area, CA

They have one thing right: I'm not with them and I'm beyond redemption.

Bluto
Sandy, UT

To our Baptist friends....

OK, we get it!
We don't share the same doctrines.
We've gotten over it.
Now, maybe you should too.

Bluto
Sandy, UT

As the document states, 'Southern Baptists who stand on either side of these issues should celebrate the freedom to hold their views with passion while granting others the freedom to do the same.'"

Next up....
"The Nicene Creed"....."It's origins and why we embrace it".

maclouie
Falconer, NY

God has spoken and the Baptists still don't know what He said (ie Calvanist vs SBC).

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