When Bronco first became head coach, it was obvious that winning was higher on
his list of priorities than it is now. I think he now has his priorities right,
and it's the chief reason I continue to defend him. He is a leader among
men, many of whom will honor him for their lifetimes for the positive influence
he has imparted. Kudos to Bronco.
@ekuteWhat a silly thing to wonder!!!I can tell you right now,
Coach Mendenhall and his priorities are exactly who and how I want him coaching
at BYU. So I won't be disappointed. I enjoy college ball for the growth
and development that coaches can bring out of their players. I enjoy many
teams. In this case I really like what Coach Mendenhasll is trying to do with
the institutional goals and constraints he has. It's a very challenging
task and he has done very well. The miles posts of success aren't
reflected just in wins. They are nice but just a bonus. I have seen
really mediocre teams become great with great coaching and I have seen really
talented teams fizzle with injuries that had nothing to do with coaching.
Sometimes it's just the luck of the draw. I have seen highly successful
coaches I would never around my sons or anyone elses. Coaching has
changed so much from Lavell's early days that any coach who can win with
the additional challenges that a Y coach has earns my respect.If you
are counting on just wins may I suggest "Roll tide!"
Good for Corby. Good for the Church. Good for BYU and Bronco and his staff for
the influence that they had on Corby.At the end of this season, it
will be interesting to see how slcwatch and the rest of you "fans" feel
about bronco, his priorities, and his ranking thereof.Go Utes.
Great memories of Corby coming off the corner blitz and leveling the QB. Great
story, Corby. Blessings to you and your family.
Darn, I was trying not to cry and I lost. What a wonderful article. The power of
BYU when a student looks for the good that is there rather than the bad. Yes,
even at BYU, you can find what you're looking for, it all depends on where
you're heart is. The church is wonderful and does change lives.
BYU fans: For the life of me I can't figure out how Chris B can take a
great and positive article and turn it completely around to something totally
negative, and then drag others through her hatred of all things BYU. Let's
not feed the troll anymore and maybe she will go away. The hatred will always
be there and will continue to eat away at her. Let's rise above the muddy
swamp that she lives in.
As you know BYU is owned by the church and as you know the mission of the church
is to bring all unto Christ. Yes Non-LDS students can be converted anywhere and
that includes universities all around the world. We of the LDS
faith, enjoy reading and hearing about conversion stories and when conversion
and baptism occurs within the highest profile athletic program in this state,
its that much more newsworthy. This story is a celebration of one
man's experience at BYU, which led to his conversion. It's a great
story and it's an integral part of the culture in this state. This is not
about BYU being the only university in the world where this happens but when it
happens at BYU, it will likely be published online in the church-owned D news.
Try to remember this and try not to make this about anything else.
By now it's apparent to most BYU fans and even many Utah fans that Chris B
(and perhaps even Cris B) live in a different kind of world than most of us,
where apparently the sky is even a different color. In fact, the only color he
apparently sees is red. It should also be apparent by now that no
amount of arguing or trying to reason with him will make any difference. People
have been trying with much futility after many different BYU articles and always
to no avail. He sees this topic according to his own bias and only with that
bias. No amount of common sense reasoning is going to change that. Some very
well meaning people have made some wonderful, perfect-sense rebuttals to his
negative BYU-Mormon comments and he simply doesn't get it. Hopefully
someday, but obviously not yet. In the meantime, just be patient and realize
there is still a lot of growing up left to be done. Only he can decide when that
might happen... probably someday after a long, sincere look in the mirror. In
the meantime, some of his political article comments are pretty good.
I remember when the first African-American student on the BYU basketball team in
1973 felt he was being discriminated at BYU. There were no other African
Americans at BYU for him to talk with and seek help and guidance. The NAACP
came to his defense and this African American later transferred to another
university with the NAACP's help. During that time, I felt sad because of
that, and the students and staff at BYU didn't really help him feel
comfortable at BYU. I remember him walking across campus by himself. During
this time African-Americans were not allowed to be Elders in the LDS church.Today times are different. African-Americans are fully accepted into
the LDS church and there are many African-Americans students at BYU, and they
also make up the BYU football and basketball team. I just hope as Corby Eason
continues to grow in the LDS faith, that he does not feel being discriminated
against. Some LDS still feel that African-Americans were given their skin color
because Cain killed Abel, and because of that, Cain was given a "mark",
a curse that would be with him and his descendants.God Bless Corby
This is such a heartwarming story. I love reading about the conversion
"process" in others. It makes me reflect on my own conversion and the
feelings that attended my baptism are renewed within me.
"Or are you saying the kids at Alabama, Utah, Florida,... and other teams
that have won significant prestigious bowls lately don't have god or
friends or an education?""He isn't saying that it
can't happen someplace else. (STuFOO)"Yes, that is EXACTLY
what he is slcwatch is saying""YES, slcwatch is saying those
other schools who don't pat themslevs on the back every time they talk
about God and how righteous they are must not have these other things in their
life""he was implying that good football teams are incapable
of being good students, families,.etc. just because their coaches want to win
games and don't preach like bronco." "SLC watch is
saying other coaches who don't put together a pretty little list like this
have their priorities wrong.""Because Nick Saban does not
come out with a happy list of priorities SLC watch apparently looks down on
that, or there would be no need to brag about bronco's order.""So now you agree with slc watch that a player can't have
everything?"I apparently say alot without writing a single word
of this.Falsely attributing a quote?Apology?
Some things (actually most things) are more important than football, especially
at BYU and while that irritates some fans, its still true and perhaps those who
disagree have misplaced values.
Chris B impostorSOS is Utah's excuse for hardly ever being
ranked.What good is "owning" someone, when you're not
even good enough to be ranked yourself?Classic little brother
Foostu,So now you agree with slc watch that a player can't have
everything? I see you are spinning yourself around and you can't keep up
with the flow of comments. My whole point is that Alabama kids are
religious, studious, good with family, AND national champsSabah did
not have to discount football at allMy utes are religious, good in
school, great in community, AND dominate you on the football fieldThere is no need for whittingham to be preachy. His job number ONE is win
football because our guys already have the other aspects coveredBroncos list is an excuse by byu fans for their .200 record against top 25
teams Lol!We own you and our players are studs off the
Chris bSo what your are saying is that you don't know how to
prioritize at all.Not everything can be number one. When your
father is dying on game day how to you reconcile where you should be? Your argument is that Nick Saben has a priority system..."I
think kids at Alabama have God right where they want him.They can also
have friends/family right where they want them.They also just were awarded
a top APR score for great academics."One that you approve of.BYU has a priority system, one you don't approve of.So
your argument is to tell BYU fans that you're right and they are wrong.And then you argue that BYU and BYU fans are self righteous. Well,I can't argue with that type of logic.
I have a theory about Chris B. I really think he is a Ute Fan that WORKS FOR the
DesNews. He gets paid to make his silly remarks on the BYU stories to increase
the hits and comments on its stories.Just one crazy man's
Foostu,Why have a list where you rank things then?That
is my whole point.IF SLCwatch believed as I believe you can have all
of them the list would look like this.god 1family 1friends 1school 1But slcwatch is praising bronco for his
list.But again, if you can have all of them, why the NEED to brag
about his priority list?I've made this extremely simple.
StuFoo,You could not be more wrong. I will try and keep
this real simple with the goal you understand. Although I won't hold my
breath. SLC watch is bragging about bronco's
"priorities" Do you understand the definition of a
"priority"?SLC watch is saying other coaches who don't
put together a pretty little list like this have their priorities wrong.I disagree.I think kids at Alabama have God right where they
want him.They can also have friends/family right where they want them.They also just were awarded a top APR score for great academics.And guess what?They win national championships.Because
Nick Saban does not come out with a happy list of priorities SLC watch
apparently looks down on that, or there would be no need to brag about
bronco's order.I am saying you can have it all - thus no need
to discout football.Nick Saban, Whittingham, Spurrier dont'
discount footballAnd their kids are every big as righteous,
studious, and good family members as byu students.Deal with it.
@Chris BDon't be like the BYU fans that post ignorant hateful
comments on utah's stories. It seems all you want to do is rile people up.
You took a perfectly good uplifting story that said nothing against your utes
and turned it in to your own hateful agenda. Read and post comments about
stories about your utes. Be like Sneaky Jimmy... "Very good story. It's
nice to see a young man use a football scholarship for his long term benefit.
It's nice to hear he had such a positive experience at BYU. I hope the non
football playing non-members get the same love and appreciation."... or some
of the other commenters on this post whose comments reflect the actual article.
And BYU fans do not post things on utah articles similar to what Chris B does
here. And if we are arguing who is better, let stats and facts prove your
points. Not bias, opinions, ignorance, and hatred.
Chris B.Let's bring the whole thing to a level you can
understand.You're the one who is implying that a football
player cannot be all of those things. You're the one trying to argue that
because Bronco established a hierarchy where football is 5th,that he is somehow
wrong. You are the one arguing and I quote your words, not anyone
esle's"Or are you saying the kids at Alabama, Utah,
Florida,... and other teams that have won significant prestigious bowls lately
don't have god or friends or an education?"You are the one
who built the straw man argument. slcwatch didn't say a football player
cannot be all of them, you did. When you say "or are you saying..." you
can't add your opinion and then claim that sclwatch said it and you want to
argue it.Please, rank your five most important things in your life
so they can go under the same scrutiny that you place BYU's priorities.
Remember, they all cannot be number one, but they can be close. We would love
to give your list the same respect you gave his.
Guy with a brain,You guys are having a tough time keeping up in the
flow of the conversation.SLC Watch listed the priorities of
bronco.I replied and asked slcwatch if he/she was implying that good
football teams are incapable of being good students, families,.etc. just because
their coaches want to win games and don't preach like bronco. STFOO then told me that is not what slcwatch was implying.I then
replied to STfoo saying if that is not what slcwatch was implying, why then was
there a need to list something as first, second, third. If slcwatch was not
implying that good football athletes can't be good students, have good
family relationships etc. then they can have football, God, family, and
education all be #1.And then you went on your rant, clearly showing
you didn't understand the flow of the comments.Let me propose
something:Go read all of the comments and the flow of them. If SLC
watch is not implying that a good football player can't also be a good
student, family member...etc then there is no need to rank them, because they
can all be #1.
A while back Chris B. posted a comment that was complimentary of my LDS faith
and I was shocked beyond belief because I didn't know he was capable of
saying anything positive about the Church or BYU for that matter. I made a vow
from then on that I will never again allow myself to be bothered by any of his
posts anymore no matter how hateful they are. Amazingly, I'm smiling
instead of fuming like I usually did when I read his posts. I think I
understand him better now, and others like Naval Vet, etc, who share a very deep
seated contempt and dislike of anything BYU, because they don't even try to
hide it...unlike ETB and his sister Mildred who constantly posts insincere and
cynical remarks in their comments pretending to be Cougar fans when they're
not. I think their sole aim is to generate hate and mockery towards BYU.
Seriously though, I'm being sarcastic when I say they're a brother and
sister duo. I made that up because all their posts are almost always identical
in aim and contents.
@ Chris B - Salt Lake City, UT - "StuFoo, Yes, that is EXACTLY what he is
slcwatch is saying. SLC Watch even says later: It's fifth, not 157th. Why
would there need to put a list of priorities unless there was a give and
take?Why not have it be this then?God? 1Football?
1School? 1Friends? 1Family 1?Why isn't is
that?"Good question. Yes, why CAN'T it be like that?Because no man can have 2 masters. Who said that?Jesus Christ.Now, YOU argue with Him if you want. I will not.Lose the hate. Good luck.
Chris B:I'm trying to imagine Nick Saban talking about Heavenly
Father and the promptings of the spirit to one of his players, but it's
just not working for me...I just can't picture it. Maybe since you know
what he thinks and how things are at Alabama and Florida (Utah doesn't
belong in the same discussion with them) you could help me visualize this
possibility. And STuFOO justifiably called you out for the Strawman act (I was
going to but he beat me to the punch and did so eloquently). You are so muddled
in your BYU victimology you probably didn't even realize you were speaking
for everyone. We forgive you. Now, take a deep breath, step back, and start
over...that seems to help some people.
Chris B?Seriously?Take a look at your comment on at the
end to see your lack of candor and the exact same self-righteousness that you
claim he is having..."YES, slcwatch is saying those other
schools who don't pat themslevs on the back every time they talk about God
and how righteous they are must not have these other things in their
life."You are the only one arguing that these schools don't
and BYU does. Like you get to be the judge and jury of what BYU does and
says.The problem with your hatred is that you see things where
things are not because you want to see them. You, again, added the words you
use later as the basis of your argument.I love how you not only
speak for slwatch, you also speak about "prestigious" programs and what
their value order is. Like you know them personally and can speak for where
winning is in their structure.For someone who once again claims
"victim" of BYU self righteousness. You sure are ready and available to
let everyone know how it is, whose in the know, and what it means.
StuFoo,Yes, that is EXACTLY what he is slcwatch is sayingSLC Watch even says later:It's fifth, not 157thWhy would there need to put a list of priorities unless there was a give and
take?Why not have it be this then?God? 1Football?
1School? 1Friends? 1Family 1?Why isn't is
that.YES, slcwatch is saying those other schools who don't pat
themslevs on the back every time they talk about God and how righteous they are
must not have these other things in their life.
I've found it hard sometimes, and frustrating being a BYU fan because of
some of the constraints we have with the honor code, and big time recruits
leaving on missions, and no Sunday play, etc. Then I read stories like this, and
see and hear how young men that play at BYU have been inspired and accomplished
the more important things in life, and it's a beautiful reminder of why
I'm a fan and love and care so much about BYU athletics. I guess it's
because being a BYU fan is about more than just cheering the team and players on
the field, it's about cheering for success on the field while honoring
yourself, loved ones, and God off it. That's what makes BYU special in my
mind...not that those experiences don't happen outside of BYU (Manti
Teo's experience at ND was inspirational also) but that they seem to happen
at BYU far more often than elsewhere where they only "care about whether a
coach wins". Tradition, Spirit, Honor. BYU certainly displays it, LITERALLY,
on their field, and most players are great embassadors that display it off the
field as well.
It's doubtful that anyone besides my jealous little sister would try to
sandwich Utah between Alabama and Florida in a desperate attempt to make our
fading flash-in-the-pan program seem more "prestigious", but she
tries.Corby Eason's story is inspiring and a great example of
the positive influence BYU can have on young people, both athletes and
non-athletes, even for non-LDS students who don't convert.
Two things are legendary here....1-BYU's Football program (with
the accompanying BYU experience) and the lifelong influence for the good it has
on those fortunate enough to wear the hallowed Y.And 2-
Chrissy B's...Legendary "Insecurity" and "Dark Cloud"
perpetually hovering above him..It's breakfast time
Chris...your lemons are ready for consumption.
Chris BYour posting on this article is very predictable, of course.
And as with every other post of yours, all I can do is smile, shake my head, and
Yeah I went to BYU back when we won just about every football and basketball
game, 1978-82. I still love to see BYU win. The funny thing about life is that
wins or losses are so important at the time but looking back a couple of years,
your memory fades. But for athletes like Corby what he accomplished off the
field has changed his life forever. He's creating new ever-lasting
memories AND helping others to do the same.
@Chris B.It's fifth, not 157th. Coach Mendenhall has a very good
winning percentage and he has his priorities in order. (Here, I'll save you
the trouble SOS,PAC12,BCS,and any I missed)Do you think that
commenting on BYU articles should be a #1 priority? I know you think you have a
mandate from somewhere (who, none of us know) but seriously you should get
another hobby.Oh, and I don't think you need to "lol"
yourself so much...people wonder about that.
Chris B,That isn't at all what slcwatch was saying, but because
of your hatred, you take the argument someplace where only you could possible
believe and then argue an invalid point. He isn't saying that
it can't happen someplace else. He is saying it happened at BYU for this
particular player with the help of this particular coach.It amazes
me that you fain the victim in the hypocrisy of BYU fans and programs, all the
while building farce arguments that are attacking and demeaning without once
having an once of candor or self restraint. You are the very
epitome of what you claim BYU fans are. "I love a coach... that
knows how to win."This shows how little you know about coaching.
You need to read some books by some of the great coaches. They'll tell
you they won because the cared about their kids first and their record second. I
had lunch with Jimmy V before he passed. I guarantee that winning wasn't
number one on his list.
Winning in any sports at BYU, most especially in football and basketball, is
very exciting, but it still doesn't compare to the joy of hearing about
lives that's been changed for the better just by having the BYU experience.
Great inspirational story! Thanks for sharing. And thank you Coach M for the
influence you have on those kids! Go Cougars!
slcwatch,The thing is, kids at prestigious programs who have gone
undefeated and won significant bowls in the past 30 years can have God AND
family AND friends AND eduction AND WIN.Or are you saying the kids
at Alabama, Utah, Florida,... and other teams that have won significant
prestigious bowls lately don't have god or friends or an education?LOL!I love a coach who knows kids can do what they want with
god, still have friends, family, and education, and who knows his job is to WIN!
You know I hear all these commentors complaining about how Bronco Mendenhall
isn't a good football coach, how his priorities are messed up and how
people can't relate to him. Well I have to say Corby Eason is reason
enough to say that Coach Mendenhall has accomplished more than winning the
National Championship, placing a hundred guys in the NFL or even beating a rival
three times straight could ever mean. He has changed a life for eternity and
that can't be under valued.First value: God....Corby made it
first too. PricelessSecond value: Family....Corby found and married
his sweetheart for time and all eternity. Again priceless.Third
value: Friends...A whole "Happy valley" full. PricelessFourth value: Education....Got his degree and an education in life
PricelessFifth value: Football...It's hardly worth mentioning
with the others but Corby had a fantastic Division I experience with a legend
team. PricelessFrustration, wailing, ranting and nashing of teeth
by a certian anti-BYU Deseret News commentor over an article like this? How
sad and depressing. I can only pray he would accept a tour of Happy
Valley with Corby Eason.
Very good story. It's nice to see a young man use a football scholarship
for his long term benefit. It's nice to hear he had such a positive
experience at BYU. I hope the non football playing non-members get the same love
That is such an inspiring story, from such an articulate young man. Corby, I
enjoyed watching you on the field, but am really excited for your future.
You've got such great potential.