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Published: Friday, May 31 2013 6:10 p.m. MDT

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dave31
Salt Lake City, UT

I'm sorry, but I thought his remarks were witty as well as funny. I'm sorry someone took offense.

byu athlete
Orem, UT

I thought the comments were funny as well....looks like good ol' Dick has fallen in with the rest of the world into the deep dark realms of tolerance and political correctness. I also find this funny coming from the man who a few years back did an article on the throwers on the BYU track team and rather than come down and shake a few hands, sat up in the bleachers like a God and had a messenger come down and get a few of our group for interviews. As a BYU sportswriter, most of us just would have liked to have met the guy and shook his hand. At least the photographer was cool. 5 of the 6 throwers went to nationals that year. I guess that has always left a bad taste in my mouth.

estreetshuffle
Window Rock, AZ

Take a couple doses each of Don Rickles and George Patton comments and call the doctor in the morning.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

Dick,

You wrote...

"...Maybe he’s just joined the rest of the crowd in this country who believe Christian, Mormon and Catholic bashing is fair game...".

So it's ok to bash Christian liberals?

You excoriate Gee for doing the same thing you do in your piece.

FYI...

Mormons and Catholics are Christians...

You're welcome.

rfrmac
Cottonwood Heights, UT

In these days of political correctness, Gee's comments where a little out of place. Ohio State, or should I say "Thee Ohio State" is arrogant to begin with. This continues the tradition. There was no mention of offense about what he said about the other schools mentioned, that's interesting isn't it. No one seemed to care about what was said about them. He should have known better, but it does tell you that there is a real high order in College Sports. No surprise. I think it also tells me that just maybe the teams in the Big Ten did not want to take a chance on Notre Dame for whatever reason.

Silent Lurker
Cottonwood Heights, UT

It's a rare day when I agree with Dick, but this is one of them. Right on Dick.

DC
Alexandria, VA

Dick, why go after the oil rig folks? My dad was one of those people and he was a great man. Pretty careless if you ask me and a poor attempt at humor.

Raymond
Rehoboth, ME

Gee's comments were funny - but they also were religiously insulting and very much beneath the behavior expected of a college president. Remember that racist jokes can seem pretty funny too - until you start to think about what they imply, and especially about what they say about the person telling the "joke." Saying that you were sorry "if" someone was offended implies that the problem was over-sensitivity on the part of the person reacting to the joke. That misses the point. The reality in this case is that Gee, president of a university in which a third of Ohio State football players never earn a degree was dissing other schools for their lack of academic gravitas. And that he decided to insult a faith that sponsors more institutions of higher education than any other, not to mention a school (Notre Dame) whose graduation rate shames Ohio State. Gee shouldn't use the "if" word when he apologizes or resigns. He should recognize that his attempt at humor was juvenile, insulting, and unworthy of his academic trust.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

Dick I thought what he said was funny. We are wrapped to tight in political correctness. It is time to lighten up. Id bet what other presiedents say about Mormons would make this sound liked a sneeze.

Itsjstmeagain
Merritt Island, Fl

I did not find the comments witty or humorous. Any attack on any religion is tasteless. I think it is time for the senior man to retire before he embarrasses himself and his University again.

ute alumni
paradise, UT

Everyone is offended about something. Big deal

JBQ
Saint Louis, MO

Gee whiz! You have to presume that ND is still Catholic to take this as a slight to Catholics. As a Catholic Navy vet, I point out that conservative Catholics have grave doubts about what has happened at Notre Dame (du Lac). In fact, ND (12-0)is no longer the Irish D-1 football school. That would be Boston College (2-10) who still have leprechauns and all the magic. BC proved that in '95 when David Gordon, the left footed Jewish kid, knocked ND from a national championship with a FG as time expired right into the breadbasket of Touchdown Jesus. Again, not everyone disagreed with E. Gordon Gee's humor. No one can laugh anymore and everyone has a cell phone.

DonO
Draper, UT

I guess I'm naive but I expect more common sense and common courtesy from "educated" people in positions of responsibility like Gordon Gee. There is no such thing as a "closed" meeting, no such thing as "off the record." A person such as Gee who makes bone-headed, arrogant comments should expect them to surface to the embarrassment of the person and the institution(s) he/she represents. Gee should know better. But perhaps Lord Acton's comments have come into play: Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

eastcoastcoug
Danbury, CT

I read a big article in the International Herald Tribune about Gee's comments yesterday coming back from overseas. The comments went into a more personal nature when he talked about Father Joyce who runs ND athletics. Read the article, people. I was embarrassed that Gee made the comments and was mentioned as being Mormon. Not cool.

If we want respect, we need to show respect.

Gee apologized but what I have a problem with is some of the posters here who think his behavior is OK. As a University president, his "humor" was out of place. Don Rickles can say this stuff as a comedian but Dr. Gee is no comedian.

SLC BYU Fan
Salt Lake City, UT

I just think good-ole' "Elwood" (Gee's given first name, although he prefers Gordon) I think was merely in a toungue and cheek way pointing out why his alma-matter (Utah '68) is in the Pac-12 and his first employer out of Columbia grad' school isn't. Gee was an Associate Dean of the BYU Law School from 1973-1979 to start his long resume in acadamia. Oh well, Boise State fans can feel better now that they aren't the only "Lil' Sistes of the Poor." Time to lighten up a little Dick!

Oatmeal
Woods Cross, UT

Place his comments into context. ND is a powerhouse that can take some jabs. They just snubbed the Big Ten Conference. Catholics have been around for 2,000 years and I doubt that his remarks made them lose sleep.

Was his humor out of place or awkward? Yep. But who out there has never said anything out of place or awkward? The old guy got clowning around and should have shut up. He regrets that he crossed a line. No real damage was done. Let's move on...

metamoracoug
metamora, IL

We all say stuff we regret later. Some of us are just on bigger stages. I agree with DonO that one would simply expect better decision-making and judgement from someone of this man's age, academic achievement, religion, and position.

RR_Xing
San Diego, CA

What gets me is that the comments were made in December, and it's not a big deal until late May. I expect some of the folks in the room laughing in December are the same that are now sending Gee to "remediation", whatever that is.

I get the impression the community could care less about the comments; it's the fact that they made the news and made Ohio State look bad that is the problem. I guess that's modern ethics; anything goes unless it gets negative press.

Rational
Salt Lake City, UT

The oil rig folks comment invalidated everything after it. Seriously, Dick, apologize like a man.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@Dick Harmon

Maybe he’s just joined the rest of the crowd in this country who believe Christian, Mormon and Catholic bashing is fair game, but Muslims are off-limits. It’s kind of nuts.

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Muslims are off-limits? How so? I guess Dick Harmon doesn't watch Fox News or research.

Mr. Harmon fails to see that religious bigotry has no limits:

"The controversy over the planned Park 51 community center in New York City is only one example of opposition to mosques and Islamic centers in the United States. Existing and proposed mosque sites across the country have been targeted for vandalism and other criminal acts, and there have been efforts to block or deny necessary zoning permits for the construction and expansion of other facilities." -- ACLU

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