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Published: Thursday, May 30 2013 3:00 p.m. MDT

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ute4ever
West Jordan, UT

Of course this is what Utah fans would prefer. A bowl game is so much more valuable than a win over BYU. I'm not trying to marginalize BYU or the rivalry, but a wins against the PAC12 opponents is much more important now than wins over any non-conference game, including BYU. I would rather lose to BYU, Utah State, and Weber State but win the PAC12 South than go 3-0 in state and suck it up in conference. "We've moved on" is a bit cliché for Utah fans, but it is really true. The rivalry is great, but it's not the goal Utah sets out for anymore. "Win the conference" is what Whitt always has said was the goal. That now excludes BYU.

I'll take winning against BYU (and Utah has done plenty of that in the last decade), but conference wins trump all now.

It would be interesting to reverse the poll. I would suspect that more BYU fans would take a win versus Utah now, especially since they haven't tasted victory in so long.

Vladhagen
Salt Lake City, UT

I think that some of the responses to this poll stem merely from trying to save face over the fact that a poll came out claiming the opposite. Another thing to keep in mind is that if Utah cannot beat BYU, they probably have no hope of going to a bowl.....it is sort of hard to lose to BYU and then somehow come from nowhere and beat Stanford.

Of course BYU wants to beat the Utes. It is a practice sometimes referred to as "winning." But, that being said, I sure was glad to be able to sit and watch BYU win a bowl game last December. Let's also remember that BYU beat the Utes in 2009. It seems odd how Ute fans (@ute4ever) like to point to that like it was "so long" ago. Let us remember that that was after the famed Sugar Bowl win.

hobbes1012003
Kaysville, UT

Of course the Ute fans are back peddling about how important it is to beat BYU. once an article was written and it became public they all changed their minds. I know plenty of Ute fans that are willing to go 1-11 as long as that one win is against BYU. especially if BYU has a great season and the one blemish is a loss to Utah. Beating BYU is the ONLY thing alot of Utah "Fans" care about. Im not saying ALL fans, but alot of them. My cousin is one of them. I am personally really glad the rivalry game is taking a hiatus. both sides just need to move on.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

hobbes and vlad, because all Ute fans everywhere actually participated in this first unadvertised poll, right? And because your cousin is the official spokesperson for all Ute fans, right? I never knew about this Twitter poll, nor do I put any stock into it because nobody in my circles knew about it, and I would wager that a large percentage of the commenters here never caught wind of it, either. It's another case of the DN (successfully) making articles in the absence of any real events. I have my opinion on the subject, as do all; accusing people who presented their opinions as "back peddling" is just conjecture. What proof do you have that those individuals voted one way or the other in the original poll?

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

I love the wins over BYU, but that is 95% a family thing since I am the only sane person in a (large) family sea of blue. Other than family bragging rights, I would much rather prefer a bowl win.

I love how nobbes is paint-brushing all Utes with one brush. I think we should take his statement about being glad for the hiatus and make the bold statement that "of course the byU fans are back peddling about how important it is to beat Utah". That would make about as much sense!!

Go Utes!! Can't wait until August 29!! Three more LOOOONG months!!

Razzle2
Bluffdale, UT

Each game is all about conference positioning. The last game in the conference to a school 50 miles away is a rivalry.

This is now just bragging rights at the kitchen table.

Spokane Ute
Spokane, WA

At least when you win a bowl game; the oppistiion gives credit where credit is due. When you beat BYU, you are still not the better team. The officials gave you the game. The Utes got Lucky. BYU fans will do anything but give Utah credit. At least many of the ones on these threads. Heck, head to head games mean absolutely nothing in determining the better team according to the BYU Homers!!

Pretty sad when you think about it.

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Spokane Ute, BYU is undefeated in their entire football history. Before 1972, they only scrimmaged, so those don't count, and since then they've won each and every game that they didn't give away (which don't count as losing). Quite impressive, really.

ekute
Layton, UT

According to an unscientific poll, 99.9 percent of the byu fans voted in both of the Ute polls.

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

This has gotten beyond ridiculous. Who cares? Most college football programs have conference championships, and attending bowl games as their top priorities (and national championship for the elite programs which neither Utah or BYU can claim). The reason Utah fans obsess about BYU is that their primary goals of winning a conference championship and going to a bowl are becoming unrealistic pipe dreams, so they have to resort to beating BYU for some solace. BYU may be #3 on their priority list but when #s 1 & 2 aren't happening anytime soon, it doesn't make much difference.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

At first, I thought, "Oh, this will be an article to try to restore some balance to the Ute blog thing." Then I quickly realized, I was wrong. No balance here.

So let me try.

Look, it was a Ute blog, the respondents were Ute fans, and within that context, it was an understandable, non-scientific interrest item. Take it out of context, put it in the public spotlight, and it's a little embarrassing.

Not unlike Max Hall's comments were for most BYU fans. Privately, among ourselves, to one degree or another, most BYU fans have at least a particle of the same feelings. But throw it out there in public, and most of us disavowed his remarks. As we should have.

The whole blog question was rhetorical. It was based on a straw dog. In public, most of us would refuse to answer such an either-or question because the truth isn't anywhere close to that territory.

Beating (insert your rival here) is a goal, an important one, but not the most important one.. That is what we all would prefer, given the choice. Meet as many of your goals as possible.

Fair enough?

ekute
Layton, UT

And every year that you get beat by your rival, the less important it becomes(or so you tell yourself).

Fair enough?

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

Now I at least understand where all the byu fan-dom hype started, lol!

Y Grad / Y Dad
"At first, I thought, "Oh, this will be an article to try to restore some balance to the Ute blog thing." Then I quickly realized, I was wrong. No balance here." lol!

Vladhagen

hobbes1012003

Utah is heading into their 3rd year in an elite conference. For the 3rd year running, a Utah sports Web Site block u has polled Utah fans asking what the most important game is for the coming season. 2011 and 2012 the byu game checked in at #4. This year, #3...723 responses to the poll. Congrats on the improvement but it clearly shows that the byu game isn't as important to Utah fans as byu fans think it should be.

That's the way it is when a school moves to the big leagues. Accept it and move on.

worf
Mcallen, TX

What difference does it make--Hillary Clinton

I don't care if the utes, or cougs ever play again. Ain't no big thing.

ekute
Layton, UT

@worf

re: My previous comment.

Go Utes.

Juice19
South Jordan, UT

I love how the Utes miss one year after several appearances in bowl games and this the leg the Cougs stand on for the trivial banter. Unimpressed by the lack of fire power and intelligence used by these so called BYU fans. The one article that has a negative connotation about "Ute Fans" and the cougs come out in droves to get the witty one liners in. Where were all of you the past three years after getting beat by the Utes? All you same cougar fans were on here beating your chest about beating the Utes. Now all you have is what game is more important to the Ute fans? This is weak. If I remember right, when the Utes announced that they were no longer going to be playing BYU, all of the coug fans were upset and the majority of Ute fans were fine with it. We've moved on. You should too.

scott
Alpine, UT

ekute

LOL at the usual delusional spin from the hill.

It's doesn't matter how long your win streak is, losing to BYU this year will hurt just as much as ever. Utah fans only pretend that it's becoming less important, but your actions - rushing the field THREE times last season - prove that you're nothing but talk.

If you need your memory jogged, pull up the YouTube videos of last season's game (there are many) and see for yourself just how laughable it is for any Utah fan to be claiming that beating BYU is becoming "less important".

My personal favorite is suspenders boy, but that's another subject.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

ekute
Layton, UT

"And every year that you get beat by your rival, the less important it becomes(or so you tell yourself).

Fair enough?"

Thanks for the attempt at civil discourse.

And every year that you beat your rival, the more important it becomes(but don't admit it out loud). This WILL make the Y vicotry over U this year all the more sweet. Not more important, but more sweet.

Fair enough!

Juice19
South Jordan, UT

Every cougar fan has said the same thing about the annual rivalry game. The last two comments have been about wait until this year when the Y beats the U. Its the same song and dance every year. Just wait until... Or remember when... Lets live in the now people and realize that the Utes have moved on and that some of the Ute fans are still doing so. My opinion is that BYU actually does want to play Utah more than Utah wants to play BYU, simply because it's harder for BYU to make their schedule and the Utes are looking to play in easier games before their conference schedule starts up. Spin it however you want, it's very entertaining to say the least.

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

Juice19
South Jordan, UT

"Every cougar fan has said the same thing about the annual rivalry game. The last two comments have been about wait until this year when the Y beats the U. Its the same song and dance every year. Just wait until... Or remember when..."

Oh, puleeaze! What would you like us to say? "Well, shazam. we've lost to u guys three years in a row, I guess there isn't any reason to bother going to the game this year. I wonder if a friendly Ute would like my tickets because I sure don't need to waste my time going to the game in Provo this year."

All the sweeter, no more important.

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