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Published: Tuesday, May 28 2013 1:10 p.m. MDT

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Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

I suppose that really depends on which bowl game. I'd rather beat the Indy-WACers and finish without a bowl game than lose to them and wind up in the New Mexico Bowl. On the other hand, I'd rather lose to the Indy-WACers, but see us play in the Rose. I suppose if our bowl opponent would have been a mid-major anyway, then we might as well beat little brother. It's what's expected.

PACute_
Salt Lake City, Utah

It's not even debatable; beating BYU is always Utah's number one goal - Utah fans citing Utah's record versus BYU more than any other accomplishment is proof of that.

Thinkman
Provo, UT

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Utah is still the little brother of BYU.

Was so in the 1980s and 1990s and by the results of this poll, is still today.

I feel for you Ute fans. You are in the Pac 12 for crying out loud. Where is your pride?

PAC12Fan
South Jordan, UT

I would much rather go to a bowl game which means we had a good season. Beating BYU is not that great anymore. Want victories over Pac 12 opponents. Moved on mentally.

fish8
Vernal, UT

You are waisting your time. It doesn't matter what the fans want. To find out why this rivalry game isn't being played just look at the bottom line. That means look at the money!!! If you get 3, 4 or 5 times as much money to play team B over playing team A - guess which one your going to play.

SoCalTrueBlue2
San Diego, CA

Klye Van Noy said he is delaying his NFL career and returning for his senior year because of "unfinished business." So let it be written. So let it be done.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

That result surprises exactly no one although some of the more prominent utah "fans" on this site will undoubtedly try to spin it otherwise. The fact is the BYU game is the most important thing to utah and its "fans" and the results prove it. utah takes the game far more seriously than does BYU. BYU spends more time concerning itself with national accomplishments and in the case of the BYU/utah rivalry that is a detriment but in the case of overall national prominence it has resulted in BYU being far superior in nationally recognized accomplishments.

utah on the otherhand invests just about everything it has into the BYU game and generally comes up lacking in national accomplishments and recognitions as evdienced by the fact they have only finished a season ranked 5 times in their entire history and have never had even one national award winning player. Compare that to BYU's extremely extensive list of national rankings, all american's, and individual awards including the most presitigious of them all, the National Championship and the Heisman Trophy and you can see the vast difference in what each univeristy considers to be more important.

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

I don't think that Kyle Van Noy and Cody Hoffman will be denied this year.
Taysom Hill is green but very talented and smart. The new offense and coaching should be a marked improvement.

I want to see both teams do well but this year should belong to BYU.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

Read any comments from Ute fans in the past year and you will know that they would rather beat BYU than go to a bowl game. This is evidenced by the fact that many Ute fans believe they had a better season last year, despite finishing with a losing record.

SportsFan
Orem, UT

Regardless of the expected spin from the usual suspects on the hill, the BYU-Utah football game is always THE BIGGEST GAME on Utah's athletic calendar!

NorCalCougarFan&Alum
Elk Grove, CA

Wow! Granted, it wasn't a very scientific poll, but there are more than a few Ute fans out there with self-esteem issues. As a Cougar fan, I want the whole apple pie. I say beat the Utes and become bowl eligible as well. However, if I had to pick and choose, I would prefer (at the very least) go to the Kraft Hunger Bowl in San Francisco next December than attend the Couch Potato Bowl like Utah had to do last season. Yes, it hurts to lose to the Utes, but it's way more insulting not making it to the post-season.

Arm of Orion
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Quick couple of items.

1) What is the sample size? This could make a big difference in the numbers

2) How can anyone, in any way, ever believe that this poll is representative of anything but the blog's twitter followers who took it upon themselves to answer a question?

There are so many statistical flaws in this it's mind boggling. Please BYU fans for the sake of everyone don't cite this as evidence. It's not. At best it's something to look at and say, "Wow, what a waste of time."

Blue Rampage
Salt Lake City, UT

It's not "beating BYU" or "going to a bowl game," that is the problem. The problem is the potential of losing to BYU and the Ute athletic department won't take that risk.

As for the ute fans, some of them still value the game, some do not because they think they have "moved on."

Moved on to what, becoming the Wyoming of the Pac 12, a classless doormat? Moreover, their membership in the Pac 12 seems to be more important than their identity as ute fans. In what other city do we see people putting Pac XII logos on their vehicles? Do USC, UCLA, Arizona, Cal, Stanford, Oregon or Washington fans do that?

This serves as more indication of the inferiority complex that ute fans still have over their second rate program that can't even get national TV exposure for a game versus USC.

Utah should keep playing BYU because being on the same field as the Cougars is one of the best things they can do to gain media exposure and to legitimize their program among the neutral, national fan base. As it is now, nobody but a small handful of ute loyalists really care much about you.

Carson
Provo, UT

LOL @ everything Ducky said!

Y Grad / Y Dad
Richland, WA

Owning scoreboard is important, locally. Finishing in the national picture is a sliding scale. As NV said, playing in, and winning, the New Mexico Bowl is nice, but far below expectations.

Winning the Potato Bowl and finishing ranked though, is very important to Utah State, because it starts them ahead for this year. That's how legacies are built. If they play about the same this year, they'll finish higher because of last year.

Utah fans, largely, don't understand that. I think they don't want to understand that. It ticks them off that this is the way BYU won a national championship, by a body of work that spanned several years, not just one. Utah, by comparison, had two brilliant seasons, but little continuity to build on.

That's why Utah drools over one game and BYU looks at the long haul.

Mildred in Fillmore
Salt Lake City, UT

I agree with Duckhunter. BYU would win the Utah/BYU game every year if BYU cared about it.

Naval Vet
Philadelphia, PA

Duckhunter:

"utah takes the game far more seriously than does BYU."

Not so little brother. Remember...

(1) It was YOUR team who pulled out all the stops in order to schedule a "bye" week the week prior to the game.

(2) It was YOUR team who hadn't been able to sell out their stadium since leaving the MWC to go play WAC football with the sole exception of your gave vs...yep...you guessed it... big brother UTAH!

(3) It was YOUR team who had been playing ho-hum, third tier mid-majors in a mid-majorey bowl game. And these bowl games were poorly viewed by your so-called "national fanbase".

(4) It's been YOUR fanbase who had been howling the loudest about this scheduled series interruption.

(5) When was the last time a talented Ute deferred the NFL draft, and ensuing $$$ millions for just so they wouldn't leave SLC 0-3 vs. their hated rival...like Van Noy.

Pac-12 wins are more important for Utah. Beating Utah is the most important objective for Y. And you KNOW it!

Just because you usually lose this game, that doesn't mean it wasn't YOUR "bowl game".

FairchildIV
Salt Lake City, UT

Arm of Orion

Did you even read the article? It clearly says that the poll wasn't scientific and the blog post states that the results were compiled via twitter. Regardless of the poll's validity, an interesting question none the less.

motorbike
Cottonwood Heights, UT

BYU fans like Duckhunter can claim that going bowling is more important - which is great and all - but Utah fans simply don't get all that worked up about going to the kind of bowl games BYU has routinely been going to the past 15 years. If you're going to go to the New Mexico Bowl versus winning your own state bragging rights, I'd take the state bragging rights.
Where the poll is flawed is exactly as Naval Vet explained, what bowl are we talking about? If it's a middle to upper tiered bowl game then I'm sure we'd see entirely different poll results from Ute fans.

Arm of Orion
Cottonwood Heights, UT

FairchildIV did you read my post? I clearly mentioned that their twitter followers then asked how anyone can take this with more than a grain of salt. If you are still confused look at item 2 of my post. Yes I read the article. My questions are still valid. How can anyone take this seriously at all? And how many people responded?

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