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Published: Tuesday, May 28 2013 8:30 a.m. MDT

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BusStopRatBag
Layton, UT

"Fans" do like, or at least understand and appreciate, 0-0 ties or one goal matches. "Fans" get the game. It's strange to me that people who don't understand or support soccer would even chime in with the asinine suggestions mentioned. I can't stand baseball and choose not to watch it but I at least appreciate that I don't know enough about it to answer a poll about rule changes.

And, sorry Mike, but a sports reporter who thinks it's "offsides" should perhaps stick to football (the other one, the one played with your hands).

Kralon
HUNTINGTON BEACH, CA

Having played soccer on my High School team I kinda 'get' the game. It is great fun to play and too boring to watch! I never watch it, so any change that would make it more enjoyable to watch would be welcome.

For Americans soccer is just another boring sport, for most of the rest of the world they choose a team based on culture and politics making it an entirely different fan experience.

satch
Highland, UT

I would love to see a shot clock in Utah high school basketball. Anyone that saw the Brighton/Lone Peak game would agree.

johnhenry
APO, AP

As far as I know, almost all sports have variations in the rules between the professional and amateur versions. Why not leave it at that for golf and the "belly putter"? The professionals can be banned from using that type of putter, just as they're banned from using golf cars, while the amateurs are not prohibited. That looks like a win-win situation to me.

The Dixie Kid
Saint George, UT

No off-sides would ruin the game.

Prodicus
Provo, UT

I think basketball needs a rule change to fix the end of the game, which devolves into something which isn't really basketball. The leading team tries to run out the clock by stalling and playing keep-a-way rather than basketball. The team that's behind tries to drag out the clock by fouling immediately every time the leading team inbounds and hoping they miss their free throws. The last few minutes become drawn-out, bitter, hostile, unsportsmanlike, and painful to watch.

As a start, maybe whenever the offense is fouled in the fourth quarter they could have the option to have half their shot clock subtracted from the game clock. That would reduce the incentive for immediate fouls and help the game progress towards its end.

For the NCAA this needs to be combined with shortening the shot clock to reduce stalling; even 30s is probably too long for a college men's game. Maybe 30s for high school, 27s for college, and 24s for NBA?

Dave Duncan
Orem, UT

Offsides in soccer is stupid. If a defender lets an opposing player get behind him, that's his fault. Players should be able to choose their spot on the field whether they are offense or defense.

Jefe-Ute
SLC, UT

Offsides is part of what makes soccer, soccer. I have played, and can play, all positions. I finished playing competitive soccer as a defender. Offisdes isn't that a man beat you, it's about knowing that he is making a run and pulling up to put him into an offsides position. And trust me, when you watch RSL games and they talk about how risky it is to try and put a forward into an offsides position, IT IS! Take away offsides and you take away a key strategy that a lot of teams put into place. I for one hated all of the changes suggested. I love soccer the way it is and love watching/attending the games. I use to hate watching soccer when I was little, but love to watch now that I'm not playing anymore.

JBQ
Saint Louis, MO

Soccer/Football is the great game. However, it usually is like "watching water drip". The World Cup every foour years puts excitement back into the game. Nevertheless, the referee has unlimited power to control who scores that one "golden goal". There are allegations in Europe that referees have been paid off. No surprise! The incident in the Cup quals in 2009 between Ireland and France is a case in point. Thierry Henry caught the ball in one hand, switched it to another, threw it to his "boot" and then passed in front of the goal for the goal in Paris which knocked out Ireland. The Swedish referee did the Sgt. Schultz routine and stated that he "saw nothing". A larger goal should be mandatory with 6 ft 9 goaltenders as well as increased pressure for goal line technology to obviate a horrific German goal in the last world cup which bounced out and was disallowed. The game is great but the referees are open to "dishonesty".

LetsDebate
PLEASANT GROVE, UT

I'd love to see European style inbounding in the NBA. As soon as the ref calls the direction, the team with possession can just grab the ball and throw it inbound and get the game moving. It would move the game along more quickly, and add excitement as teams have to get in position much more quickly.

OthersShoes
SILVER SPRING, MD

People fail to recognize that the offsides rule in soccer makes the game faster and provides more opportunities to scores, it was created to shorten the physical space that players use on the field, quicken the speed of play, and allow for counterattacks. Without the offsides rule; players would stretch the field out and the pace of the game would become more conservative.

People who hate the 0-0 tie should recognize that this scoreline occurs in less than 10% of all soccer games. In the 2010 world cup 2.44 goals were scored per game meaning a goal was produced around every 48 minutes of open play. Considering that a soccer broadcast only goes for 105 minutes (no commercials). That's comparable to the rate at which touchdowns are scored in football (1 every 41 minutes).

Given the points breakdown (3 for win, 1 for a tie, 0 for loss) ties add a second dimension to the game.

I think the fact of the matter is this: some people prefer one sport over the other, and that's OK. Fans decide the demand for a game and soccer seams to be doing just fine.

JcB
GEORGETOWN, TX

Let me first state that I did not play sports much as a youth because I did not have the coordination or strength that others near my age in my small Utah home town had and they did not have the patience to put up with me. So I am not a big sports fan.
However, my six children, who all grew up in Texas all played sports, some more than others, mostly they played soccer. Several were officials. So I have seen many amateur soccer games, but only a few professional ones. I would much rather watch soccer than baseball or basketball, American football and soccer come out about even.
Regarding the offside rule in soccer, having read the youth soccer rule book years ago, I can say that it is or was a very wordy rule; but the thing that I found most perplexing was the final statement which basically said if the official thought it was offside it could be called offside. That just seemed wrong to me, especially with youth officials some of whom did not truly understand the rule.

AltaHawkFan
Sandy, UT

Soccer's rules are just fine the way they are. If soccer scored goals at 7pts each like football does, no one would be saying there is no scoring. The only improvement I'd make to soccer is adding another on-field ref ... two on-field refs and 2 AR's.

Baseball needs to let the team batting put 2 players out on the field to make things more interesting ... full contact baseball would be much more fun. hahahaha

Sirveaux
Taylorsville, UT

Eliminating the offsides in soccer will result in four forwards and four defenders hanging out inside the penalty area the entire game, and the remaining midfielders kicking long balls in from the half line. It would be boring, and take the skill out of the game.

Cougar Passion
Salt Lake City, UT

Soccer needs clock stoppages when players go down rather than "stoppage time" so the length of play is not subject to human discretion. A player that is down long enough to be checked out by the referee needs to leave the game for a period of time. And soccer should have unlimited substitutions as does basketball. Speaking of substitutions, baseball should allow a player to come back in after having been subbed out as well.

InspectorC
Wasatch Front, UT

In Soccer--- Leave the Off-side rule alone!! As explained here by several others, it DOES actually improve the game and speed it up.

BUT.... the "margin of error" to score or not score is WAY TOO THIN. This results in "the better team" being defeated TOO-OFTEN, due to some microscopic error or absolute FLUKE in play or shots-on-goal.

Plus I think 98% of Americans would agree (if you could get them to care enough to vote ;^)that soccer needs to be changed to create much higher scoring!! And I don't mean to make each goal worth 6 points --like football. It's not "the score itself" that matters. It's the NUMBER OF TIMES that a score happens!!

To make the game more "statistically" valid -- so that the "better team" almost always wins, and to stimulate fanbase interest in the game, they need to do something to increase scoring (enlarge the size of the goal, etc.)

If soccer games had final scores of more like 18-9 or 26-12 (still at ONE point per goal), Americans would FLOOD to the game by the millions!

teleste
Austin, TX

@Dave Duncan

"If a defender lets an opposing player get behind him, that's his fault."

Let's get rid of it in American Football too...the whole "line of scrimmage thing" is dumb. After all, *players should be able to choose their spot on the field whether they are offense or defense.*

FatMan86
West Jordan, UT

Soccer needs to ditch the forward moving clock (along with stoppage time). It's the 21st century folks! And stop telling everyone with a differing opinion about soccer rules that they are too stupid to understand the game. The NFL (a far superior on field product) is constantly changing and altering it's rules while the game evolves. Why can't soccer evolve too?

Games that end in a tie are terrible as well. Why not have at least a 5 minute overtime and/or penalty kicks, even if the game points earned aren't as much as an outright win in regulation. It would add so much more excitement to the contest.

RSLJAZZBYUUTAH
West Valley, UT

I disagree with all those rule changes, people who want the rules changed, just don't understand the sport they are watching. American League baseball is sooo much better than National league because of the DH rule, having a pitcher hit, is an automatic out most of the time.

bbzebra
Sandy, UT

The time keeping in soccer drives me crazy. It is so arbitrary. Why can't there be a clock that is controlled by remote by the referee? The fans could actually see the the clock stop when play is stooped. The stoppage time thing is very suspect.

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