Tyler Haws had an amazing season and was way better than I thought he'd be
in his first year back. This is the type of season I thought he'd have for
his senior year. Now I'm wondering how will he top this season for his
junior year? Jimmer went from 7 pts a game to 16 to 22 and then 28 pts his
senior year.Tyler isn't as nifty and resourceful or deadly from
really long range like Jimmer was so I don't see him being able to handle
the same type of defensive attention Jimmer got when he was scoring 30 pts a
night. I wonder how high Tyler's ceiling will be as a Cougar by the time
he's a senior. He's made an incredible leap going from avg 11 pts a
game as a frosh to hitting almost 22 as a soph. Maybe he can get close to 24-25
pts a game but I don't think he'll continue progressing at this pace.
I think his growth will be incremental the next 2 yrs.
@AZUTEI have 2 questions for you Why is it ok for the
Ute fans to go back to the Majerus era but it is bad taste for BYU fans to bring
up 1984?Also just courteous if BYU (as put by so many Ute fans) are
not even thought of by the national media because 1984 was so long ago how do
you think the Utes are looked at with your last big run in basketball was over
10 years ago?Last of all the world may not revolve around BYU but
you and chris b must because you are always here.
@AZUTE,"Sure, we've had a challenge in replacing our
Legend, but it hardly defines our overall program."For a minute
there I thought you were talking about the BYU football program. I think BYU
does know what it is like to replace a legend, and are doing a pretty good job
(top 25 rankings, bowl games & victories, etc.)Speaking of
basketball, I think that BYU's record, ranking and performance show they
are relevant nationally. If you look at their recruiting classes and the actual
comments of other coaches from around the country (you know, the people who
actually know what they are talking about), you will find a lot of respect and
recognition for their program. Weber St. had a nationally recognized player, but
it still didn't make them a respected team. BYU is a respected team, and
one that coaches around the country know can beat them if they aren't at
the top of their game. The world is a lot different place without
the crimson colored glasses on.
But, just remember there is only ONE Tyler Haws. Let's hope the league
does not hire the hockey refs they used last year - or was it rugby? Basketball
should be a finesse game. Hopefully, Tyler will not be subjected to the
brutality he endured last season! Play on!
When it comes to how programs are viewed on the national stage, it boils down to
their performance in The Tourney or in byu's case, their lack there-of. In
this regard, there's zero comparison between UTAH and byu. Sure,
we've had a challenge in replacing our Legend, but it hardly defines our
overall program. byu wouldn't know what it's like to replace a
Legend, since they've never had one, in the first place.I
chuckled at byu fans regularly equating the hype over JF to their team/program
somehow even remotely being considered to be a national powerhouse. The reality
of it all was byu's most celebrated player ever could only manage to lead
his team to The Sweet 16, their 1st such appearance in 30+ years, and no
further. And now he's a literal unknown in The Association. In response
to an inquiry regarding JF, the vast majority NBA fans would immediately respond
with, "Who?"In stark-contrast to how they view themselves,
the world doesn't even remotely revolve around byu. Literally, legends in
their own minds only. National leader in Tourney-appearances w/zero Final
Fours, for obvious reasons. LOL
To all the ute fans who want to brag about Bogut on a Tyler Haws article,
let's just say that if we are going to compare players from three or four
coaches ago, then we should talk about BYU's NBA draft picks from three or
four coaches ago, including NBA draft picks and lottery choices like Danny
Ainge, Kresimir Cosic, Fred Roberts, Greg Kite, Shawn Bradley, etc., etc.Tyler Haws is going to end up right up there with the best of them.
Meanwhile, the team up north will continue to struggle in its new league where
it can't compete.
ekute:Start a trend of having only 1 coach on the payroll and not
3.Start a trend of more wins in a season than transfers.Start a trend of running an offense and not playing keep away for the first 31
seconds on the shot clock.Start a trend of hiring a coach who
isn't scared to play Weber St.Start a trend of hiring an AD who
isn't scared to play Utah St.And finally start a trend of U
bball fans who don't put their foot in their mouth on BYU bball
What is it with Ute fans wanting to post on a BYU Hoops article...All of these comparisond make me laugh...There is only oe fact
y'all need to memorize... Over the past 7 years the BYU vs Utah record is
11-1... SEVEN YEARS???NUFF SAID,
@nielsenBogut only played for the University of Utah for two years. Since
Majerus recruited him there and coached him one of those years it is reasonable
to say that Bogut was Majerus' success and not Giacoletti's.
Summary of BYU and Utah basketball during the Dave Rose era BYU
209-66 (76%) 8 20+ win seasons, 4 conf champs, 6 NCAAs (4-6), 2 NITs (3-2),
Consensus Nat'l POYUtah 116-137(46%) 1 20+ win season, 1 conf champ,
1 NCAA (0-1), 6 losing seasonsBYU has dominated Utah 12-3, 11 of the
last 12, 7 in a rowUtah hasn't beaten BYU since Jan 2009, a
94-88 OT win in SLCAverage score during the Dave Rose era - BYU 72
Utah 64And this final tidbit, BYU leads the all-time series
129-125-----------nielsen"Hey sls, what
about Andrew Bogut lol :)"Bogut was the last remnant of the
Majerus era.The Utes were humiliated in their only NCAA game since
Bogut left for the NBA.
@ekuteStart a trend of not going to a football bowl game. lolStart a trend of losing more conference games than you win. lolStart a trend of being the last team to qualify for the conference basketball
tournament. lolHey this is kind of fun.
Tyler played well to be sure, but was frustrated when d became physical; hope
this off-season he gets stronger, tougher for the pounding refs seem to be blind
to--Cougars too thin, easy to push around.
Hey sls, what about Andrew Bogut lol :)
Maybe Coach Rose should enlist the help of Tyler's dad, Marty Haws, who was
stellar in helping his son get ready and conditioned for the basketball season
last year. It was a story of love, unique training, and persistence that really
paid off in a big way!Go Cougars! Go Kyle!
If he decides against playing PRO (US or overseas) he probably could land a job
on the BYU staff helping the RMs get back in game shape. But I imagine
he'll go pro, he plays his best games in the arenas.
He's dang good.
I thought I would do something novel and actually comment on the article.Tyler Haws had a fantastic year. Of course he should set the pattern for
others returning from missions. He hit upon a successful formula and it should
funny how those buys above talking smack stuff. What was his name crissy? Anyway, hope Kyle C. will start the conditioning like Tyler did or
however the system work for RM. Go Cougars!
It seems everyone is a little testy today. Hang in there guys, football season
is only 3 months away. Btw, Chris is a confused Cougar fan. Don't let him
fool ya. Go Cougars!
Chris B - In response to your question, really? Basketball banter from a Ute to
a Cougar?Believe it or not, BYU doesn't get all the sunday
school boys (i.e. returned missionaries). Your Utes have quite a few on their
sports teams, so you may want to be careful about your comments. Do
you really want to know how many top schools offered Tyler Haws, Kyle
Collinsworth, Nick Emery, TJ Haws, Chatman, Calvert, Mika, or TJ Haws? Or even
Jabari Parker, who still may go on a mission? Do a little research and you can
answer your own question. Your Utes offered most of these guys, but had no
luck. They were all offered by many top programs.The Sunday School
boys are getting plenty of offers, from top programs. And I like the ones we
are getting at BYU. The basketball domination is sure to continue.Sorry U are not able to get more of them for your sub .500 basketball, or sub
.500 football or sub .500 baseball. Tough times on the hill.
Dear SLS, I bet you think your pretty smart with your comment of "And the
utes haven't had anyone get to the NBA since Majerus left, four coaches
ago." Well, your wrong, surprise! There was this guy named Andrew Bogut who
was the #1 draft pick in the NBA. Yes Majerus originally signed him, but he left
the program and Ray Giac had to fly to Australia and convince the kid the come
back which he did, all credit goes to Giac not big Rick. So how many players
from Provo have been the #1 pick? Yep, none! Sure, the Jimmer was pretty high,
but also one of the biggest busts in NBA history. You can add Hafa Arujo to that
list as well, bust!
Wow basketball smack from the Utes! Seriously? I can't wait to
watch Tyler play for two more years and I'm excited to see if Collinsworth
can make the same successful transition from missionary to star player in less
than a year. Go Cougars!
@ Chris B and any other ute fan commenting on this message board. When was the
last time utah had a relevant basketball team and a player drafted into the NBA
period? That's right it's been a while. Congrats on last season though
at least you made it into double digits in the win column. I guess that answers
the question as to where utah "athletes" fall in the national
"relevance" picture - below a sad enough BYU.
ChrissyA very small percentage of athletes coming out of HS are Mormon. So
of course, the majority on any team whether Bama or Louisville is not going to
be "Sunday school mission" boys. Thank you for pointing out the obvious
to everyone. I guarantee bama or Louisville wouldn't care what religion he
embraced if he can play...many lds players in both basketball and football have
played for prestigious schools (does the name Jabari Parker sound familiar).
Good call Chrissy, why don't you personally call up coach K and ask him
what the heck he was thinking recruiting that Sunday school Mormon boy to a
nobody school like DUKE. LOL...literally.
It seems to me that some of the best Utah players were LDS such as Tom Chambers
and Danny Vranes. And remember Chris, Utah now plays in a religious bigoted
Start a trend going 1 and out in the wcc tournament. lolStart a
trend of failing to qualify for the NCAA's. lol
And the utes haven't had anyone get to the NBA since Majerus left, four
Chris B Star, your boy from the U that went 14th in the NFL draft is an
active church going, Mormon!!! How do you think he is going to do in the NFL?
How is Eric Weddel doing in the NFL? Maybe if Jimmer were on a different team he
might have a better chance!!! Danny Ainge did well in Boston!!!