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Published: Wednesday, May 22 2013 11:55 a.m. MDT

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VST
Bountiful, UT

As stated in the referenced article (A New Front in the War on Journalists), "...They [the President's supporters] aren’t interested in winning a debate. They want to silence opposing views."

How true, and how sad!

Ultra Bob
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I think the War on Journalism has all the merit and validity of the War on Christmas. I believe that the real war in our media is the War on Truth.

If there is a War on Media and its other name Journalism, where do I signup?

Billions of dollars is being spent on the Benghazi thing without a shred of actual evidence.

The tax scandal is all about improper action by our government but not a word about the real scandal of political groups being given tax exemption. I wonder if those groups would be included in the 47%.

Then there’s the commercials, for every tiny bit of news or entertainment, we are inundated hundreds of commercials which are mostly untruth.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

This is a joke.... right? The author and reference author aren't serious are they?

Under ever sing;e administration there has been conflict with the press. You don't have to search hard to find examples of Republicans having issues with the press as well. It was said that the Bush Administration had "open contempt for the press" with their critique his ability to govern.

Moving backward, we had prices like the one found in the June 7, 1993 Time Magazine where the headlines read "Newswatch; Clinton vs. the Press"

Do a google search for the term "reporter arrested" and you will come up with pages of reports of reporters caught outside of the law, under both administrations.

From FoxNews we have "Reports Arrested at 2008 Republican Convention Reach Settlement"...

So lets stop with the short attention span memory deprived reporting. This is nothing new. This is not example of "big government policies" - it wasn't then.... and it isn't now. At some point in time the press needs to be held accountable for accurate reporting, not just sensational reporting.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

In the Presidential campaign last year, we learned that the Obama Administration was waging a war on religion. Then the far right began waging war on women. Next Aurora and New Town caused a war on the Second Amendment. Now the headlines announce the Obama Administration's war on journalism. Either the national myth makers are in open season year round or there's too many wars going on.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

If there is a war on journalism it's due to the right wing radio hacks, along with faux news pretending to be journalists.
The first thing you learn in journalism school is about the importance of being objective and doing a complete investigation before reporting. The right wing media does neither of those.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The "war on journalism" is just like the "war on women", the "war on Hispanics", the "war on Christians", the "War on everything"... the war doesn't exist. It's mainly hype created by politicians and the media to hurd the masses where they want them to be and voting the way they want them voting.

The insidious part is... they are all based on a small kernel of truth (which makes them easy to sell and for people to believe). But the "war on..." part... mostly hype.

There's bias out there (that's for sure). But a war... I don't think so. It's just politicians and Madison Ave trying to hurd people into the corner they want them in.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Ernest T. Bass
Be carefull... your bitterness towards the "right_wing media hacks" is showing.

No doubt the Right_wing media is to blame for part of this, but so is the Left-wing media. I personally don't consider the network channels to be in the middle (or impartial). IMO they are left-leaning, but not as bad as MSNBC, Huffington Post, etc. But to be sure... MSNBC and the rest of the uber-Left leaning sources are just as much to blame as Fox.

This may really get your goat... according to Nielsen Ratings... this month Fox news reported their highest increase in viewers of the year, while MSNBC reported their biggest LOSS of viewers of the year (that's according to Nielson's Cable News Ratings for Tuesday, May 21, 2012) . Ohhh Snap!

Fox News is still #1 in viewership of all cable news providers (according to the ratings). FOX (1,472 Mill) viewers) is double the next network CNN (at 730 Mil). MSNBC (has 345 Mil viewers)

I don't watch ANY Cable news (including FSN). I'm just quoting the numbers from impartial ratings.

So... IF there's a war... FOX is winning.

Twin Lights
Louisville, KY

The warrant was likely overreach. But journalists and public officials who reveal our spying/intelligence assets need to be punished.

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

Fox may be "winning" viewership but we are losing as a result. Their blatant disregard for objective reporting only makes their viewers even more ignorant than they were to begin with.

Tyler D
Meridian, ID

@2 bits – “The insidious part is... they are all based on a small kernel of truth”

Nicely stated… balance and perspective are often in short supply here.

Regarding your inquiry on medical loss ratios (other article), the ACA requires a minimum mlr of 85% (might be some exception in particular markets but that will be standard). Any insurance worth their salt should be able to operate and be profitable keeping 15% of premiums.

To your larger point, I completely agree. Obamacare’s big glaring flaw was that it did nothing (a few pilot programs notwithstanding) to address costs and given the market failures inherent in healthcare (as the Time Magazine expose a month or so back laid out) this is the elephant in the room.

There are some free market approaches that will help (tort reform, 3rd party payer problem, etc.) but those do not get at the underlying market failures caused by the inherently unequal relationship between providers and patients which results in price increases far in excess of CPI.

There’s a reason why no developed country in the world has a purely free market healthcare system.

Howard Beal
Provo, UT

I don't know about this war on journalism. But how can anyone feel too sorry for the media in general. The media is awful. I try to see things down the middle but for too long most of the media was a cheerleader for the President. Then the President got too comfortable and the rest is history. But our local news is a joke, the national media is a joke. Most people have given up on the media being credible. If anything, this whole thing might be a blessing as maybe people will take journalism and its mission to be that fourth branch a little more seriously. Perhaps more journalists will take their mission seriously. The only reason a guy like Rosen stands outs is that he was the rare journalist asking tough questions of the President. If more journalists were actually doing this, then the President wouldn't have been as brazen to silence Rosen.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

2bits I don't disagree that Fox news is winning but that correlates nicely with America losing, in the education race, the well being of the middle class, and a drastic decline in upward mobility. The elites that the right are always screaming about have the masses right where they want them, sitting around watching misinformation about who's to blame for their situation. Somehow Fox has been able to convince people that the fact they haven't had a raise in ten years, that their children can't afford college, and the price of gas is all because Obama is coming after their guns.

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