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Published: Wednesday, May 22 2013 12:19 a.m. MDT

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SLCWatch
Salt Lake City, UT

Good to see Cougar Baseball extending the Cougar Rep. Go Cougars, take the WCC tournament! Here is to making the NCAA playoffs and having a fantastic Run.
It's great to be a Cougar fan.

sls
Columbia, MO

I don't understand why this team is a bubble team. With their winning record against ranked teams and taking the series from nonconference teams like Creighton, Kansas, and Utah, this BYU team should be a shoo-in for a tournament berth.

I hope they win the WCC tournament and the automatic berth, but the Cougars really have already done enough to earn an at-large bid, especially with this dominating victory over ASU.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

I was in attendance tonight. YAAAAWN. If you comprehended College Baseball, you'd know how these mid-week games work. Schools save their top pitchers for the weekend and oftentimes kids play who are otherwise buried deep down into the dugout during their important weekend-games.

Case in point, review last season's results for eventual NC ua and their mid-week games at home against NMSU. They got absolutely obliterated by NMSU, yet won The CWS w/their best pitchers/starters playing the entirety of each game.

However, hollow, meaningless victories such as this one are precisely what fuels the utter self-delusion running rampant in utah county, year-round. I'd be shocked not seeing you all giddy about it. Schedule ASU for a weekend-series and byu gets utterly humiliated.

byu played LSU twice, going 1-1 and not posting any other victory down there....Their only victories of significance were winning 2 of 3 fron UCI, which just dropped from the rankings....They played UTAH/ASU in midweek games and had only their weak conf weekends....As in football/basketball, SOS matters....Shocking, I know....KU curb-stomped byu and got swept by UTAH in a weekend series.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

I'd seriously love to see byu have the courage to schedule UTAH/ASU in a true weekend-series, instead. Too chicken to make it happen.

Mildred in Fillmore
Salt Lake City, UT

We'd win the PAC 12 if we were in it.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

Mildred in Fillmore
Salt Lake City, UT

We'd win the PAC 12 if we were in it.

I know it....Akin to being the true NC in Football, annually.

Cougar in Texas
Houston, TX

AZUTE1

BYU lost one game to Kansas but took 2 of 3 from the Jayhawks in a weekend series.

Yes, SOS matters and figures into RPI rankings where BYU is in the 50s while Utah is in the 150s. BYU and Utah's SOS are about identical this year.

In terms of scheduling, Utah is the team known for backing out of scheduling games with BYU, not the other way around.

SLCWatch
Salt Lake City, UT

@AZUTE
Thank you for attending the game and supporting BYU Baseball as one of the teams most ardent supporters.
Your comments about BYU resting their best pitchers, using end of the bench players and other wise playing it soft midweek style should not detract from the fact that Arizona State does have a great baseball team.
If you comprehended College Baseball a little more you might understand that winning games is the point of the process and no coach gives out "gimmes" to anyone and that scheduling games by the AD's is done to enhance that process.
I don't understand how you think that BYU playing on the weekend would be humiliating, unless you do it with an onside kick when up by 21.
Utah had their chance once again this season and as always they put on good games and just came up short, again. They are a good team also. As to an ASU-Utah weekend series, I will leave that to those two teams to work out who would be better between them. As you should know, BYU has nothing to do with those two teams playing each other on a weekday or weekend.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

What are you talking about in backing-out? Which baseball games are you referencing? And NO, byu's SOS doesn't even remotely compare to UTAH's....LOL

And UTAH welcomes Top-10 UO into S.L.C. this weekend, to boot.

I didn't see even one, single team from the utterly WEAK WCC ranked.

What was that regarding SOS?

SLCWatch
Salt Lake City, UT

@AZUTE
Silly comments I know. But then so were mine. Don't you think we should not make silly comments intended just to stir up the other fellow. It's not helpful except to generate a few laughs once in a while. Support your team, enjoy the entertainment of sport and let's be good sports.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

Current SOS rankings have byu's at #58 and trending weaker going forward, with UTAH's currently sitting at #21 and trending stronger with Top-10 UO hitting town this week.

ASU's SOS currently sits at #10.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

Tis is truly hysterical witnessing byu fans attempt in vain to spin it all.

Pitchers need rest and the best are reserved for the more imp wk games.

ASU started a kid who'd pitched less than 20 innings all season long and was in when the bulk of byu's damage was done[5 earned runs]....Coach TE has no choice but get these other kids experience midweek when mid-tier, inferior competion such as weak WCC byu huts town.

As evidence in support of how desperaty important byu viewed this game, they threw a kid for 5 innings who's logged roughly 50 innings on the season and replaced w/a kid who's equally experienced for another 2 innings, etc....ASU's final ptcher for the game made his season-debut....LOL

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

When I see the following posted, clarification is in order--

"....especially with this dominating victory over ASU."

Just the FAX
Olympus Cove, Utah

AZUTE1

LOL at your jealous, whiny excuse making.

As usual, BYU is having a MUCH better season than Utah in yet another sport, and the only excuse you can come up with is the Sun Devils "saving" themselves because it's always good strategy to enter your final regular season series on a four-game losing streak, especially when you're fighting to get a good seed in the upcoming NCAA tournament.

Do you actually believe your whiny spin?

CordonBleu
Park City, UT

azute1

An 8-3 win is a DOMINATING win in anyone's book, except for, apparently, yours.

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

Funny how the Utah fans still can't bear to capitalize BYU. The infantile attempts to insult BYU say much about the trolls and nothing about BYU. Ute trolls biggest joke is when they say to themselves, stay classy.

AZUTE1
Mesa, AZ

A dominating win would be KU beating byu, 15-4....Or USF beating byu, 11-1.

And since ASU beat ua on Saturday nigh, they've lost merely 2 straight games against overall the nation's 10th ranked SOS, 1 against the def NCs and the other in a mid-week game against a patsy while starting a scrub nobody pitcher.

ASU's typically already long been a lock for the post-season, they've been a regular in Omaha throughout their ELITE-history, have a staggering number of players in MLB, 5 NCs, play in America's premier conf and you people are seriously comparing the two teams, based solely upon byu's weak SOS, worse overall-record, ZERO history in the sport nationally, most likely needing to gain the WCC's Auto-Bid, in order to just simply make a brief post-season appearance and a mid-week game in which ASU got a pitcher who rarely ever sees the field a feel-good start and another pitcher his season-debut appearance while byu puts their best available pitchers out there, desperate for a win in their attempt to qualify for what ASU annually locks-up early in the season, qualifying for the post-seas.

phoenix
Gilbert, AZ

AZUTE1

I was also at the game and it was obvious on this particular night that BYU was the better team. The Cougars built a 7-0 lead before the Sun Devils even threatened. ASU may not have been using their best starting pitcher, but that doesn't explain the lack of production from ASU's bats.

Arizona Central's account of the game said:

"The Sun Devils (34-18-1) are 5-6 in their last 11 games going into a regular-season-ending Pac-12 series at Washington (22-31, 13-14 Pac-12) starting Friday. Their hopes of hosting a NCAA regional are gone and they need to regroup against the Huskies simply to solidify their at-large position."

So even the Arizona press is saying that the Sun Devils still aren't a lock for the NCAA tournament.

hmmmm

Any reasonable fan would laugh at the suggestion that a team trying to solidify their at-large position in the NCAA tourney would carelessly "throw away" one of their last remaining regular season games simply because it was an unimportant "mid-week" game.

truecoug1
Provo, UT

@AZUTE1

Actually, what's hilarious is watching your epic meltdown after the Cougars blew out the Sun Devils in Tempe.

This is awesome! You have 8 of the (now) 18 comments on this board. Keep it coming! This is extremely entertaining!

Go Cougars!

truecoug1
Provo, UT

@AZUTE1

I'm not sure what you're trying to argue. It looks like you're trying to make whiny excuses for why ASU, a team with such a storied baseball tradition, lost to an overachieving BYU team.

Why not just congratulate the Cougars? BYU was picked to finish dead last in the WCC before the season started. They have defied all expectations, are now the 3rd seed in the WCC tournament, and are 5-4 this season against ranked teams.

I'm sure ASU didn't put their ace pitcher out there for yesterday's game. I KNOW that BYU didn't, they've got more important things to worry about with the WCC tourney coming up.

So I'm not sure what your point is there, especially since a "mighty" PAC 12 team with such a "storied tradition" and ranked in the top 15 this year should have no problems beating a "patsy" from the WCC, even without starting their stud pitcher (and with BYU not starting theirs, either).

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