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Published: Wednesday, May 22 2013 5:00 a.m. MDT

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Danny Chipman
Lehi, UT

My husband and I recently had a..."discussion"...on this topic. He was against letting our young daughters play outside because it was Sunday. He grew up in a family where Sabbath day activities were rather restricted. I was raised differently. My parents' never "forced" us to do anything, whether it was attend church or stay inside with scriptures glued to our hands. Their primary reason: they didn't want us to come to hate Sunday.

He let me have my way, albeit grudgingly, so I try to emphasize to the kids that Sunday is family time. Playing with friends can wait till Monday; how about doing a puzzle or playing a board game with Mom or Dad? Why not make the desired bike ride a family activity? Playing in the backyard is fine as long as it's done nicely and isn't loud or irritating to anybody.

I hope that, as happened in my family, teaching correct principles, leading by example, and letting others choose for themselves, will yield the strong testimonies and love of the Sabbath.

Now if I could just get dinner to make itself...

Grace
Bakersfield, CA

Lovely article, an issue we all struggle with weekly. There is comfort knowing Heavenly Father reads our hearts..

As a point of Biblical import, the Seventh Day always has been Saturday. Every modern calendar even begins with Day 1, Sunday, and ends with Day 7, Saturday. Historians know when Christians began officially moving their worship day to the First Day, "The Lord's Day", after intense Roman persecution. Even Nero's hideous Christian persecution noticed their First Day gatherings. Acts 20:7 points to the early believers "breaking bread" and collecting tithes on the First Day of the week, symbolizing our Lird's Resurrection Day.

As anti-semitic persecution intensified a few centuries later, Roman Christians made every effort to separate from all Jewish observances. But no tradition will ever change Genesis 2:1-4, as God resting from His six days of creation and "sanctifying the Seventh Day". I've been teaching Hebrew since my classes at BYU in the early '70s. Shabbat is rest and Sheva is seven. The official, original Sabbath/Shabbat is Saturday. This is why the rest of the Biblical Christian world worships on the First Day, The Lord's Day, to commemorate His glorious Resurrection.

portlander
Arlington, WA

Comparing myself against the world, lowers my standards and sets lowered standards for my family. Comparing myself to the commandments helps to keep my standards lofty and in tune with the Savior and the Holy Ghost...something I am constantly trying to instill in my family...as well as to live more fully myself.

We have been warned numerous times, over many generations that the world around us will decay into chaos and sin. That we are to "stand in Holy places", and that we are to make of our homes "a bit of Heaven".

But if we say that we doing than those around us, then we are falling farther and farther from the "Glory of God" and His dwelling place.

Please heed what it says in Mosiah 4:14 14

"And ye will not suffer your children that they go hungry, or naked; neither will ye suffer that they transgress the laws of God, and fight and quarrel one with another, and serve the devil...."

OnlytheCross
Bakersfield, CA

I feel that the spirit of this article is one to be emulated and cherished, as we seek to honor and sanctify our Creator and the Lord's Day, Jesus' Resurrection Day.

But as Grace points out, don't confuse Sunday with the Sabbath. It never has been identified as such by any Biblical Prophet, Apostle, Disciple or even by Jesus Himself. That early Catholic leaders moved the Shabbat designation is historical fact. Just call it what all New Testament writers did: The Lord's Day.

Aunt Sue
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Thank you for the important reminders.

TimBehrend
Auckland NZ, 00

In Semitic cultures, both modern and historical, the "day" begins at sunset, whether the first, second, third or the seventh. The "real" Saturday (for those who equate the real with the culture that reigned in the first century Roman province of Syria Palaestina) begins at sundown Friday and is over at sundown Saturday, so corresponds neither with the sixth, seventh or first day of the week in modern reckonings of time.

From the point of view of labour and employment, it's a bit of a shame that only the weekly Sabbath of the Hebrews was adopted by the modern cultures that came to rule the world and create the global calendar. Observing the Shmita (the final year of each seven-year cycle) would have made our work and home lives, as well as our agricultural practices, more pleasant.

Hey Baby
Franklin, IN

Bakersfield Duo,

The Sabbath was made for man.
Man was not made for the Sabbath.

Worrying which of the 7 days you worship God vs. "how" you worship God, reminds me of the guy who spent his final moments re-painting the deck chairs on the Titantic...

Take one of the seven days given and spend that day emulating your savior or practicing what you believe most.

Thanks

terra nova
Park City, UT

The Brethren attend the temple on Thursday as a means of rising to a quiet and reflective day of rest intended by obeying the commandment to "keep the Sabbath Day holy." If our Sunday's become too hectic as a result of callings or other obligations - we may find comfort in doing likewise.

pmccombs
Orem, UT

Ah there it is, the admission that rest doesn't really mean rest at all. It actually means work! A different kind of work! What?!?

It's so strange how words don't mean what they used to. No wonder I'm so exhausted at the end of a typical Sunday full of 6-7 hours of church meetings or visits, of shuttling kids to "brownies at the bishop" or various other firesides and activities, of getting the little ones ready for church and struggling with them reverent during meetings.

You know what I could really use after a hard week of work? I could the kind of Sabbath where you "rest" in the traditional sense. Yes, like how it says in the dictionary: "Refreshing ease or inactivity after exertion or labor."

See, that sort of rest would make a lot sense after a period of creative labor. How about we could serve the Lord all during the week, along with our other busy activities, then have a day of rest at then end of it? To renew and regenerate? I, for one, need time to slow down and stop work of *all* kinds. To just stop. I desperately need a Sabbath...

Brahmabull
sandy, ut

I value my time with my family too much to spend 3 hours in church. I decided a long time ago that sundays would be our family's day. We go fishing, hiking, walking, out to dinner, whatever we decide. We do it together. That is the one day a week that we get to enjoy each others company without having to be somewhere or have any obligations. I am glad we do it that way and will continue to do so.

G L W8
SPRINGVILLE, UT

Brahmabull's comment reminds me of a story I heard several years ago: seems an outdoorsman was telling his bishop that he could worship The Lord better in the great outdoors than he could in church. The bishop's reply: "You can--but you won't."

That's not to question Brahmabull's or anyone else's motives for choosing outdoor family activities. Instead, I'd hope that those choosing that path would make concentrated efforts to insure that good moral, ethical, even spiritual lessons are taught. That will not happen unless a solid, structured approach is planned and performed--and that leads us right back to the essential time to be spent--which, in the case of church attendance, should be an equivalent 3 hours.

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