(Not lack of transparency... Just *Transparency*. I appreciate her transparency)
Remove your tattoos?! "Good intentioned" suggestions like this are
exactly why Mormons are accused of being bigots. Who cares - she IS defined as
the tattooed Mormon, because that is her story! It's marketing. To define
and market herself as a sweet spirit or a daughter of God (while all true) does
not carry the weight of the Tattooed Mormon, and would never receive the same
publicity - thus have as strong an impact. If others are inspired and want to be
tattooed Mormons, that is their choice, and really not for you to worry
about.And her tongue ring? lol I didn't even know it was
there until I read these comments, BECAUSE I WAS NOT OUT TO JUDGE HER. I
appreciate her lack of transparency, and honestly standing where she is while
sharing a message of hope. The funny thing is, anyone who looks at her with
shame is probably the same person playing saint on Sunday after watching Porn
Saturday night. I honor those who wear honesty on their sleeves, versus the
many MANY who simply do all they can to make their dirty sleeves appear clean.
Live real. She does.
Why, in a story about conversion to the LDS Church, do we have so much
questioning about sin, judgment critical of a person's past, and caustic
comments about Utah Mormons as well as those engaging in the religion blame
game? Go back, look at the video again, look at Al Fox's beautiful face,
listen to her story, and ignore the tattoos. The youth I know who have heard her
speak have said nothing about them, and I don't know a single one that has
got a tattoo from their exposure to her. To the critics I say: let that part of
her story be between her and the Lord, and pay more attention to the parts that
will strengthen you and not get detracted from what she's really saying.
She can comment on what she thinks/plans for her tattoos when she's ready.
And forget all the irrelevant nonsense about Utah and "religion: the root of
Al Fox is bubbly and beautiful. Those of you criticizing her tattoos or
piercings are completely missing the boat.
I would bet most of you making negative comments about Al have caused more good
people in the church to become inactive or question going because of your
negative, judgmental, holier than thou attitudes. Typical Utah "I'm
better than you" Mormon attitude. The fact that she has some ink on her
skin is between her and God. Your opinions mean nothing. Where is the love for
this young woman? She has great character, she's a wonderful person, she
has a strong testimony, I love this about her. Al, I have watched your videos,
and you have such a sweet spirit and a beautiful strong testimony. I am so
grateful you are apart of the church that I belong to. I am also thankful that
you were able to find the true church of Jesus Christ. Thank you for your
I actually had the chance to meet Al. She was visiting my roomie. They met in NY
while he was doing work there for his BYU business degree. It wasn't the
ink that impressed me. It was her bubbly personality. The ink is just the
outside. What happened to 1 Samuel 16:7 and Matthew 7:1-2? She has a great
conversion story and her background gives a new way for the Gospel to be spread
to people who otherwise would not listen. Don't hate. I see a lot of it
here. Accept her for who she is, not for what she looks like.
@ JoeBlow - Far East USA, SC, "I think the world would be a much better
place without so much certainty in religion........Why cant people just "not
Know"? What is wrong with that? I believe that down deep, we are all
agnostic."Dear Joe, speak for yourself. I am NOT agnostic. I
do "know" and someday you and I will meet and the Lord Himself will look
you in the eye and tell you that I did in fact "know".And so
can you, if you want to.Good luck.
Al Fox, I love your enthusiasm for your faith. I also appreciate the
"journal" videos of your life and testimony. It is amazing seeing the
transformation in your life. You were clearly a beautiful and dynamic person
before your conversion and now you simply just GLOW and continue to shine
brighter and brighter! A light upon a hill for all the world to see!! Keep it
There are some Maoris of New Zealand with tattoos applied to ward off evil
spirits. That was culturally done long before missionaries landed there.
Her testimony is one of the most beautiful I have ever seen. So many people can
learn so much from Al Fox, both lifelong members of the Church and more recent
It's sad that some people choose to judge Al Fox by her appearance instead
of by the powerful testimony that comes out of her mouth. It's arguably
strongly than any of those who are criticizing her. God has forgiven her for
getting those tattoos before she joined the church. Who do you think you are not
to do so as well?
Membership in the church of Jesus Christ of Latterday saints is a precious
privilege and gift. I don't care what your past is or what you've done
or did, you're fine by me. I know you've got something worth
cherishing. Despite all our differences, we gain such strength by gathering.
Thanks for sharing your story. It makes us all better.
I think the world would be a much better place without so much certainty in
religion.There are lots of people of different religious persuasions
that are completely sure that they have the religious answers. Obviously, they
cannot all be correct.It is not unusual for "answers" to
lead them to do despicable acts.A health dose of doubt is a good
thing. It might have kept people from flying planes into buildings.Why cant people just "not Know"? What is wrong with that? I believe
that down deep, we are all agnostic. Many just cant admit it.
Sister Fox: I love your uniqueness!!!! You are a blessing to the church!!! I
have been debating, in my mind, whether I wanted to move to Utah/out West when I
retire. I think I will stay in the mission field. Y'all apparently have
wards full of perfect people, as these comments indicate, and my very imperfect
self would have a hard time remaining active. Thank y'all for helping me
make the decision. I hope Sister Fox stays active with so many criticizing her
looks. That is just not very nice of y'all.
RE: Osgrath, ” between her and God”Tattoos and body piercings,
a good test is to determine whether we can honestly, in good conscience, ask God
to bless and use that particular activity for HER own good purposes. “So
whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of
God” (1 Corinthians 10:31). The N.T. does not command against tattoos or
body piercings, but it also does not give us any reason to believe God would
have us get tattoos or body piercings. An important scriptural
principle on issues the Bible does not specifically address is if there is room
for doubt whether it pleases God, then it is best not to engage in that
activity. Romans 14:23” that anything that does not come from faith is
sin”. Our bodies, as well as our souls, have been redeemed and belong to
God. Although 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 : “Do you not know that your body is a
temple of the Holy Spirit, Therefore honor God with your body.” Christians should avoid tattoos, but Mormons can default to, A of F #8
@ LValfre - No, the LDS church will never change their stance against homosexual
activity, particularly 'marriage'. No, "never". I understand
your perspective, or rather, I understand where your perspective is coming from
but your perspective is based on not understanding who really leads the LDS
church. Time will prove my statement correct.@ Joe Blow - It
isn't that God is "shallow", it's that God wants us to respect
the gifts that He has given to us, one of the most sacred being our physical
bodies. When we are resurrected (and, yes, we will ALL be resurrected) no one
will be resurrected with tatoos on their brand new, glorious, bodily temples.
Not even the Polynesians. Yes, "sometimes" religion is used to justify
"scary"/violent actions. However, not "always". Religion, as a
whole, has been used far, far MORE to spur people to loving, kind actions, so
please quit trying to justify your total spurning of religion in the name of
wisdom. What you seem to not understand is what this woman stated in the
article: God, and God alone, is the source of truth, and when He speaks, it is
absolute.Man bows to God and not the other way around.
Many performers at the Polynesian cultural center have tattoos. One performer
has his entire upper body tattooed. It is here decision and hers alone on
whether or not to remove them. If she does I understand laser surgery is an
option. I served in the Army National Guard with a fine soldier and LDS
member with tattoos on both arms. Many LDS are to judgemental of others, myself
I never thought I would agree with LValfre over statements from people of my own
faith. On the other hand, I have an internal hypocrisy alarm that made it
difficult to read a large number of the comments made on this thread. The New Testament is not our only source of advice against making judgments.
Buddhism is pretty outspoken in that regard, as well. But the LDS Church of 2013
has been very outspoken and adamant on the subject of common decency and tact.
You people who seem to want to tell this woman to have her tattoos removed are
pontificating in an area that is none of your concern. If she chooses to do so
on her own, that would be her decision. Otherwise it is totally and completely
and utterly between her and God - therefore none of our business. Hypocrisy abounds when we accept tattoos on Polynesians because it is part of
our culture, but not on a blond woman because it's not part of hers. Citing
scripture to substantiate a judgmental statement about another person does not
justify the rudeness. Even a tongue stud is nobody else's business.
I think her tattoos are awesome. Colorful and playful designs. Nothing
objectionable.Some people are just old and constantly yelling
"Get off my lawn" (read: Get out of my religion).Stay inked,
for SUZKY#1I don't think it makes any difference to our
Heavenly Father if someone who joins Christ's church has tattoos or not.
Since none of us are without sin we have no right to judge anyone. We all make
choices that we wish we hadn't. There are sins that people have committed
that only God knows about because the effects don't show on the outside.
Everyone has done things they wish they hadn't, everyone. Also, since she
didn't understand her divine worth when she was tattooed that wasn't a
sin. We are only accountable for what we know. Being a convert myself and
realizing the importance of the Atonement of Jesus Christ in my life and how He
freely forgives those who repent, what right does anyone have to tell me that I
am still the example of sin just because no one see's my "inner"
@Someone Pinch Me, that has to be one of the biggest jaw-dropping comments
I've read in a while. I hope you do not wish to speak as someone who can
judge a true conversion--regardless if someone has tattoos or not. Perhaps it
is wiser to give someone the benefit of a doubt and leave the conversion judging
to a higher power.
"If her relationshiop with the Savior is as important to her as she says it
is, I recommend she check into getting her tatoos removed."Oh
MY. Really?Can the God you imagine really be that shallow?What about long hair and beards?"Why does this matter? Because
the Lord doesn't want us to have tatoos. Period."And some
people think the Lord wanted them to fly planes into buildings. They were
absolutely sure of that also.This is why religion is sometimes
scary. Power, control and money. It is always there.
@LDS Revelations,Well obviously it's a PR move to keep talking
about her when in reality, as the comments show, tattoos are VERY frowned upon
by members. They've been talked down upon by their leaders. But the church
is continually trying to increase membership retention by becoming more open
...Polygamy - no polygamyNo color - 1978 revelation welcomes
colorNo gays, shoot down prop 8 - BYU finally has LGBT group and their is
new support for Gays and Gay mormonsThis - thatThis - thatThere is a cycle of doing what's needed to keep people in the church.
3 comments:1) I'm glad this woman found the restored Gospel of
Jesus Christ.2) If her relationshiop with the Savior is as important
to her as she says it is, I recommend she check into getting her tatoos removed.
I know there is some new procedure where removing tatoos is not as
difficult/expensive and painful as it used to be. Why does this matter?
Because the Lord doesn't want us to have tatoos. Period. Sure, we are
only held accountable for the light and knowledge we have so to judge her for
choosing to get tatoos before she had the Gospel is unjust criticism. But now?
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that there are many, MANY young
men and women who see her NOW with all her tattos, standing at the pulpit
bearing her testimony and think "Well, maybe tattos aren't
wrong."3) She is ABSOLUTELY right on this: "I think
it's really important if you have a question, don't turn to the
Internet, don't turn to other people. If you want to know that God's
there, ask him a question — ask HIM." What's so hard to
understand about that?
I think this ad is likely a calculated PR move by the Church to paint LDS
"just like everyone else" and accepting of tattoos/piercing when it is
really not. If it were one would expect internal Church publications to have
photos of members with sleeves or piercings and feature them as models of faith.
They do not. In fact it is just the opposite. Internal materials feature only
those who reflect LDS ideals including single piercings for women (none for
men), conservative hair styles, and no tattoos.My guess is the idea
came from the Church's agency/in-house PR crew as a way to appeal to
younger people and not something that actually reflects LDS Church views on
lifestyle or tattoos. It's almost as if Ms. Fox is ome side-show freak
paraded around 1) to help LDS appear more accepting and 2) as a novelty for LDS
faithful. Obviously novelty and fame trump other concerns.Is the LDS
Church the first advertiser to ever misrepresent reality using an ad or PR
campaign? No. I just hope people are aware that this is ad should be taken with
same skepticism that any other would be.
I would think that the LDS Church would embrace a witness with such a testimony.
What a dynamic speaker for the generation of kids we have in society. I believe
that the worldly judgements by others are truly wrong. This is a personal
relationship. I'd welcome her at my Baptist Church, no strings attached!
It's sickening to see some of the judgmental comments on here. Here is a
story... a great story, about a girl finding her faith, and instead of welcoming
her to the fold, people want to tell her what she needs to fix next. Really -
the person was right who talked about the mote and the beam... none of us will
have any influence on her judgement. I'm just glad the
missionaries didn't look at her and say, "She has tattoos - she
wouldn't make a good member." The gospel is for everyone, and it's
a gospel of change. She's changed who she is. Just because she doesn't
fit the image that others want her too, doesn't mean she's not worthy,
or hasn't been converted. When I look at her face, I see light, I see
radiance, and I see Christ in her countenance.
I love the fact that God, through His Church, loves all of us and values our
uniqueness. It warms my heart to read this story. Human beings are not cookies
cut from a cookie cutter. Sister Fox, you are a blessing to the Church. I love
being a member of the Church in the mission field. We tend to be a bit more
tolerant in some respects.
I agree that our bodies are temples in that they are the dwelling place of the
Holy Spirit. However, don't LDS temples have many symbols and engravings
all over them? How would a tattoo related to one's faith be any different
than these markings I see all over LDS temples? I think people need to really
consider what actually "defiles" our bodies. This subject is one I think
people rush to judgment on. Maybe I'm just off-base here.
How refreshing! Times have already changed so much that I feel Sister Fox is
wise to identify herself as the Tattooed Mormon. I feel the reason the church
has not grown quicker than it could have (and therefore been a blessing to more
people so far)is partly due to the Pharisee attitude brought into it by
competitive and condescending attitudes. So many people take too many decades
to shake off their worldly natures even after feeling God's love. We do
progress... "Line up Line", "Here a little and there a little",
"Opposition in ALL things". "Adam fell that men might be", and
"Men are that they might have joy". Our Baptismal covenants are to
comfort those that stand in need of comfort - and mourn with those that mourn.
We all make decisions in life, and THEN learn to forgive, repent, let go and
To the people telling this girl to remove her tattoo's you clearly
don't know how it works. First, there is no guarantee that it will work, if
the artist went even a bit too deep or if the ink is blue you probably
aren't getting rid of the tattoo ever(unless you cut all of your skin off)
The other thing is depending on your skin type you can be left with large
scars(that are worse than the tattoo). The biggest thing is when did this
woman's salvation become Jim or SuzyK or anyone else's decision? She
should do what's right between her and god, not what some posters on the
Some of you are just crazy. You don't judge a person by their skin color,
their culture, their tattoos, their piercings, etc. You judge them by their
character. From what I'm hearing from the criticizers here ... she has more
character than you WITH the tattoos.
When she is giving interviews my feeling is that it would be better if she
covered up her arms. It is offensive to look at and yes tatoos can be removed
even though very painful and I'm sure expensive. It difficult for me to
feel she is an example of a latter-day Saint woman when the main thing you see
are the tatoos...I don't understand why anyone would choose to desecrate
their bodies with tatoos..it is not becoming and it certainly does not please
Here is the churches stand on Tattooing, important not to judge, esp those who
got tattoos before they became members:TattooingLatter-day
prophets strongly discourage the tattooing of the body. Those who disregard this
counsel show a lack of respect for themselves and for God. The Apostle Paul
taught of the significance of our bodies and the danger of purposefully defiling
them: "Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God
dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for
the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are" (1 Corinthians
3:16–17).Additional InformationThose who have a tattoo
wear a constant reminder of a mistake they have made. They might consider having
RE: Tattooed Mormon' Al Fox shares her conversion Conversion to Mormonism.
Radical religious converions are not unusual: Randy Bachman, BTO to
Mormonism. Cat Stevens to Islam. Sammy Davis Jr. to Judaism.Converts to
Christianity. Mark Farmer, Grand Funk railroad. Richie Furay, Buffalo
Springfield . Roger McGuinn,the Byrds And #1 Christian conversion, Saint
Paul, for I bear in my body the marks=(stigmata, stigma)of the Lord Jesus(Gal
"I think it was President Hinckley that said. 2 earrings for girls, no
earrings for boys."Do you really want your religious leaders
delving into the minutia of your lives? Do you really need that? It would be smothering to me.
I love listening to her testimony. I love her enthusiasm for the gospel of
Jesus Christ.But I feel I am missing something...She is not
the (only) tattoed Mormon so why 3 stories since February labeling her as
such?It makes her sound like a circus sideshow. There is a
good size fireside circuit, there's a good smattering Mormon bloggers
and YouTubers...But everyone's story is unique. She's found a way to share hers.Focus on her story...She's not her tattoos.
Does this mean you aren't opposed to your tattoo free child getting a
tattoo?Wait I thought its fine?
RE: Tattooed Mormon' Al Fox shares her conversion Conversion to Mormonism.
Radical religious converions are not unusual: Randy Bachman, BTO to
Mormonism. Cat Stevens to Islam. Sammy Davis Jr. to Judaism.Converts
to Christianity. Mark Farmer, Grand Funk railroad. Richie Furay, Buffalo
Springfield . Roger McGuinn,the Byrds .And the #1 Christian
conversion, Saint Paul, "for I bear in my body the marks=(stigmata,
stigma)of the Lord Jesus"(Gal 6:17).
snowman: I have no problems with the tattoos. It is great that Sister Fox will
be going through the temple. I just don't think it is a good to identify
yourself by something external.I think it was President Hinckley
that said. 2 earrings for girls, no earrings for boys. Maybe it was a tic-tac
on her tongue and I just mistook it for a piercing, in which case I apologize
Sister Fox.@mightyd: mote? Was there a mote in her eye? I guess I
was too distracted by what I thought was a tongue piercing. I'll have to
watch it again.What will you tell your teen daughters that want to
pierce their tongues? Sister Fox's tongue is pierced. Yes and if Sister
Fox jumps off a bridge are you going to jump off the bridge too?Okay, I've got to go remove this beam from my eye. I can't see
anything and it's starting to hurt.
Rock on, Sister Fox!
@jiminslcdo not look at the mote in someones else's eye, until
u remove the mote in thine........
A true conversion would cause to remove them. We don't deface the Temples
and that's what our bodies are!
JimInSLC: Although the church does not encourage tattoes they will not deny a
temple reccommend to those who have them.
Al Fox is an amazing person. I met her soon after I came home from my mission.
My brother was going to some "informal scripture study" sessions that
Sis. Fox had organized. She had at least 10 people there (they said it was a low
turnout that day). I remember that upon our first meeting I thought "What a
mature, wise and charismatic person." She just has a certain way about her
countenance that inspires the best in people. I'm so happy to see her
sharing that love with others.
What an unlifting, humble conversion story and testimony! And, what a great
example of member missionary work! Thank you for sharing, Al Fox!
Sister Fox, you have a wonderful story, a great testimony, and an amazing
spirit. I can see you becoming a role model for many of the young women that
you encounter when you speak. I do not mind that you have tattoos, but it would
probably be better not to identify yourself by them. Others may want to become
Tattooed Mormons too. There is nothing wrong with that if they already have the
ink before converting. How about Al Fox, Daughter of God! That has a nice
sound to it. Lastly, the ink cannot be removed I'm guessing that the
tongue piercing can be. You might find that you enunciate better without it.